Intel discontinues the Core i7-6700K and Core i5-6600K

[themctipers]

Just now, hey_yo_ said:

I remembered the first few videos I saw from LTT are the ones with Intel pre-roll ads "Intel is bringing DDR4 to the mainstream with their core i7-6700k and core i5-6600k processors. Check in the video description to learn more."

the first few videos i saw on LTT were of the 4790k refresh was brand new shit

 

[79wjd]

1 minute ago, themctipers said:

@Ryan_Vickers

 

 

the real difference is in power saving, which is more important for a laptop

screams about gaming laptops!

Yes, but I would feel a much greater desire to upgrade if the new version came with an octa core whereas I can live with only four hours battery life (although I would really like more....just not enough to spend the money). 

[XenosTech]

1 minute ago, themctipers said:

@Ryan_Vickers

 

 

the real difference is in power saving, which is more important for a laptop

screams about gaming laptops!

Moar powuuhhhh !!!!111!! Moar Arr Geee Beee !!11!!!!

[themctipers]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

Yes, but I would feel a much greater desire to upgrade if the new version came with an octa core whereas I can live with only four hours battery life (although I would really like more....just not enough to spend the money). 

for a laptop id be much more concerned about battery life over performance

 

as long as its a quad core coffee lake. i5 7200u not powerful enough for tipers level chrome.

[Cheddle]

So what are they going to put under the lids labelled "7600k" and "7700k"???????

[vanished]

17 minutes ago, themctipers said:

@Ryan_Vickers

 

 

the real difference is in power saving, which is more important for a laptop

screams about gaming laptops!

Yeah, I gotta say, unless I'm trying to play a game, I feel no limitations at all using my 2011 laptop.  It has USB 3, a good CPU, enough RAM, 1080p display that looks pretty decent, etc.  I don't really wish for anything  

[themctipers]

Just now, Ryan_Vickers said:

Yeah, I gotta say, unless I'm trying to play a game, I feel no limitations at all using my 2011 laptop.  It has USB 3, a good CPU, enough RAM, 1080p display that looks pretty decent, etc.  I don't really wish for anything  

i just wish there was a <1000 $ laptop that wasn't a fucking ultraboo that had NOT SOLDERED RAM! and a 1080p IPS DISPLAY! and a GLASS TRACKPAD!

 

$1000 is a lot of fucking money, and i can't even get a 1080p TN display on 90% of laptops. 

[BingoFishy]

2 minutes ago, themctipers said:

i just wish there was a <1000 $ laptop that wasn't a fucking ultraboo that had NOT SOLDERED RAM! and a 1080p IPS DISPLAY! and a GLASS TRACKPAD!

 

$1000 is a lot of fucking money, and i can't even get a 1080p TN display on 90% of laptops. 

LG Gram?

[themctipers]

1 minute ago, BingoFishy said:

LG Gram?

^ US PRICING.

 

 

 

think $700 USD laptops. 

[mr moose]

1 hour ago, XenosTech said:

Might as well go ryzen since you'd have to get everything

every system after 3 years has to be a platform change anyway. There is very little benefit to just upgrading the CPU after a year these days.

 

The good thing about upgrading right now is it doesn't matter which color you buy, you won't regret it.  

[ARikozuM]

Competition is great! Can't wait to see how Coffee Lake affects the market and how AMD and Intel will fight for dominance. 

 

Also, we all remember the rumors about Zen! Why did you go Skylake when you had an IB or later build? #WhiningChildren

[XenosTech]

2 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Competition is great! Can't wait to see how Coffee Lake affects the market and how AMD and Intel will fight for dominance. 

 

Also, we all remember the rumors about Zen! Why did you go Skylake when you had an IB or later build? #WhiningChildren

Well I had no pc and intel was the only option I had last year when I was parting this out q.q

[Paranoid Kami]

I'm still on 2600k. Works fine for me so no reason to change.

[Mooshi]

2 hours ago, Cheddle said:

So what are they going to put under the lids labelled "7600k" and "7700k"???????

Oh no, Intel will have to actually shove something under the mayo that isn't a Skylake chip under another name now, the horror!

[Syfes]

2 hours ago, Paranoid Kami said:

I'm still on 2600k. Works fine for me so no reason to change.

Same

[jagdtigger]

4 hours ago, deXxterlab97 said:

and im still using haswell. 

+1

My 4670k@4,5 GHz still enough for games...

[BingoFishy]

6 hours ago, themctipers said:

^ US PRICING.

 

 

 

think $700 USD laptops. 

That's canadian pricing... Do you mean it has to be under $700 US pricing to be under $1k CAD?

 

Doing further reveals that yes, it is pretty difficult to get a laptop with a good IPS screen under $1000 CAD.

[themctipers]

2 hours ago, BingoFishy said:

That's canadian pricing... Do you mean it has to be under $700 US pricing to be under $1k CAD?

 

Doing further reveals that yes, it is pretty difficult to get a laptop with a good IPS screen under $1000 CAD.

ಠ_ಠ send me a link to it

 

the only laptops I've found with IPS are just asus ultraboos

[PianoPlayer88Key]

9 hours ago, Ryujin2003 said:

Agreed.

 

What does work well, is having my "new" (1 year old device) already being ancient. Thanks Intel.

 

9 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

The ironic thing is you actually can thank Intel that your cpu isn't ancient. My four year old laptop is basically just as powerful as a brand new one, which is actually really nice..... So seriously, thank you Intel.

 

9 hours ago, Ryujin2003 said:

Some of their stuff really does a good job lasting. I'm hoping to get 5 years out of my laptop as well.

So, with Intel's retirement of CPU's, are we talking individual stock that you'd purchase from Newegg or Amazon, or are we talking about supplies that would potentially be used from manufacturers? Most of the stuff I've seen recently is all 7th Gen anyways, cannot find anything older.

 

Am I the only one who wishes we still had the pace of improvements we used to see a long time ago?

I would love for the replacement of my 4790K to be as much faster and cheaper, as my dad's 486-120 was vs. his 286-10.   And I really DON'T want to have to wait like 20-30 years before upgrading.  Once the 4790K gets to be as "slow" as a Core 2 Duo was in 2015, I'd like to upgrade within 6-12 months or so, if not sooner.  Also I'd like 8 to 32x the RAM support (or more), without having to wait 3 to 5 generations, or get a server board and registered ECC RAM.  And I could go on about not wanting to replace the motherboard frequently (I take issue with the labor involved in swapping it out, compared to swapping out a stick of RAM when using the stock Intel CPU heatsink), wanting more PCIe lanes, etc.

 

 

9 hours ago, themctipers said:

@Ryan_Vickers

 

the real difference is in power saving, which is more important for a laptop

screams about gaming laptops!

 

9 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

Yes, but I would feel a much greater desire to upgrade if the new version came with an octa core whereas I can live with only four hours battery life (although I would really like more....just not enough to spend the money). 

 

9 hours ago, XenosTech said:

Moar powuuhhhh !!!!111!! Moar Arr Geee Beee !!11!!!!

 

9 hours ago, themctipers said:

for a laptop id be much more concerned about battery life over performance

 

as long as its a quad core coffee lake. i5 7200u not powerful enough for tipers level chrome.

 

I'd actually also like to see even more improvements in power efficiency.  For example, on a future generation, I'd love to be able to run a then-equivalent of a 1950X or 7980XE, and Vega 64 or 1080 Ti, WITHOUT even so much as a heatsink.  Oh, and it should run no hotter than ~20-30°C above ambient or ~70-80°C, whichever is cooler, while running Prime95 Small FFT and Furmark.  

[XenosTech]

25 minutes ago, PianoPlayer88Key said:

I'd actually also like to see even more improvements in power efficiency.  For example, on a future generation, I'd love to be able to run a then-equivalent of a 1950X or 7980XE, and Vega 64 or 1080 Ti, WITHOUT even so much as a heatsink.  Oh, and it should run no hotter than ~20-30°C above ambient or ~70-80°C, whichever is cooler, while running Prime95 Small FFT and Furmark.  

This is but a pipe dream lol Unless we figure out how to make system that's 100% power efficient

[themctipers]

3 hours ago, PianoPlayer88Key said:

 

 

 

Am I the only one who wishes we still had the pace of improvements we used to see a long time ago?

I would love for the replacement of my 4790K to be as much faster and cheaper, as my dad's 486-120 was vs. his 286-10.   And I really DON'T want to have to wait like 20-30 years before upgrading.  Once the 4790K gets to be as "slow" as a Core 2 Duo was in 2015, I'd like to upgrade within 6-12 months or so, if not sooner.  Also I'd like 8 to 32x the RAM support (or more), without having to wait 3 to 5 generations, or get a server board and registered ECC RAM.  And I could go on about not wanting to replace the motherboard frequently (I take issue with the labor involved in swapping it out, compared to swapping out a stick of RAM when using the stock Intel CPU heatsink), wanting more PCIe lanes, etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd actually also like to see even more improvements in power efficiency.  For example, on a future generation, I'd love to be able to run a then-equivalent of a 1950X or 7980XE, and Vega 64 or 1080 Ti, WITHOUT even so much as a heatsink.  Oh, and it should run no hotter than ~20-30°C above ambient or ~70-80°C, whichever is cooler, while running Prime95 Small FFT and Furmark.  

I just want a decently fast quad core for now or octa in a decade that takes 5.5/15w. Need my ~6+ hours of battery (should be ~12 IMO but..)

[xsimplyjosh]

12 hours ago, themctipers said:

@Ryan_Vickers

 

 

the real difference is in power saving, which is more important for a laptop

screams about gaming laptops!

would never buy a gaming laptop in my life ever, can't imagine the amount of overheating in that tiny chassis :'( 

Desktop Tower PC = best best

[themctipers]

19 minutes ago, xsimplyjosh said:

would never buy a gaming laptop in my life ever, can't imagine the amount of overheating in that tiny chassis :'( 

Desktop Tower PC = best best

I would. A long as it's 1080p IPS, has a 1030m and a HQ CPU. 

[TidaLWaveZ]

13 hours ago, deXxterlab97 said:

and im still using haswell. 

 

13 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

This ^^^^

 

What about Haswell-e, does that count?

[Mira Yurizaki]

3 hours ago, PianoPlayer88Key said:

-snip-

I've had a look at whatever benchmarks I could in the past and came to the conclusion that clock speed bumps were mostly responsible for the perceived "rapid improvement" we think of back in the day.

 

Take for example the Pentium III Coppermine. When it debuted, its speed ranged from 500MHz to 733MHz. Now and days, a 233MHz difference is something to scoff at. I mean, my Core i7-6700's turbo speed vs the i7-6700K is about the same as that speed difference. However, where my i7 can get within spitting distance of a 6700K in average performance, the 733MHz Pentium III will utterly wreck the 500MHz model.

 

The real kicker is that five months later, a 1GHz version of the Pentium III Coppermine was available. So if you had the bottom barrel Pentium III Coppermine, you could literally double your performance across the board with that upgrade. This isn't the same as going from a dual-core to a quad-core with the same exact clock speed. You only see that performance benefit if you ran CPU bound tasks (which most of the time, we don't). This is more like overclocking an i7-6700K to 8GHz.

 

But here's the thing, back then the Pentium III Coppermine 500MHz processor had a TDP of 13W. The 1GHz model had a TDP of 29 TDP. If you tried overclocking an i7-6700K to 8GHz with voltage taking into account, you'd be well over 500W TDP.