7900X reviewed!

[PCGuy_5960]

11 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

70 is not too bad honestly if overclocked. Stock settings yes because it doesn't give you much room to OC. I like my components cool too but I feel it's a good trade off with a bit higher temps with the increased performance.

 

I said higher than 70C  So 75-80C

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I said higher than 70C  So 75-80C

 

I guess the IMC out of the box allows for memory speeds just short of 4000 MHz.  Tweaking this is going to be fun!

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, done12many2 said:

I guess the IMC out of the box allows for memory speeds just short of 4000 MHz.  Tweaking this is going to be fun!

Yep, delidded Skylake-X is going to be an enthusiasts dream  Because it looks like 5GHz is definitely possible if you delid the CPU

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Yep, delidded Skylake-X is going to be an enthusiasts dream  Because it looks like 5GHz is definitely possible if you delid the CPU

 

We'll definitely see as I'm sure the end user benchmarks will start rolling in shortly after the 26th.  I hope to have some up within a day or two at the latest. 

 

 

@MageTank As mentioned, looks that the IMC loves fast memory.  I know the TZ 3600 4 x 8 c16 kit is proven kit, but what do you think about the 3866 4 x 8 set?

 

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232492&cm_re=trident_z_led-_-20-232-492-_-Product

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232494&cm_re=trident_z_led-_-20-232-494-_-Product

 

@AnonymousGuy is the second set the same as the one you got?

[AnonymousGuy]

3 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

@AnonymousGuy is the second set the same as the one you got?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232457

[done12many2]

Just now, AnonymousGuy said:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232457

 

Looks like the same shit minus LED?  Without LED would be better so that the PSU can feed more power to the CPU.  

[MageTank]

3 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

We'll definitely see as I'm sure the end user benchmarks will start rolling in shortly after the 26th.  I hope to have some up within a day or two at the latest. 

 

 

@MageTank As mentioned, looks that the IMC loves fast memory.  I know the TZ 3600 4 x 8 c16 kit is proven kit, but what do you think about the 3866 4 x 8 set?

 

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232492&cm_re=trident_z_led-_-20-232-492-_-Product

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232494&cm_re=trident_z_led-_-20-232-494-_-Product

 

@AnonymousGuy is the second set the same as the one you got?

Technically speaking, at stock primary timings, the 3600 kit would be better. $60 difference is also pretty silly, given both are likely using identical dies. People often expect the higher clocked kits to tighten better when underclocked, but it's not always the case. Would go with the 3600 C16 kit and tinker with it. Maybe try to obtain 3800 C16 at 1.39v, or tighten down to C14 like my 24/7 kit. 

 

Granted, I already know money isn't your primary concern as long as the performance is there. So if you want to try the 3866 kit, go for it. On a completely unrelated note... EW, RGB!

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, MageTank said:

Technically speaking, at stock primary timings, the 3600 kit would be better. $60 difference is also pretty silly, given both are likely using identical dies. People often expect the higher clocked kits to tighten better when underclocked, but it's not always the case. Would go with the 3600 C16 kit and tinker with it. Maybe try to obtain 3800 C16 at 1.39v, or tighten down to C14 like my 24/7 kit. 

 

Granted, I already know money isn't your primary concern as long as the performance is there. So if you want to try the 3866 kit, go for it. On a completely unrelated note... EW, RGB!

 

I'll order both and return whatever I don't use.  All of my OCN buds swear by the 3600 kits.

[MageTank]

Just now, done12many2 said:

 

I'll order both and return whatever I don't use.  All of my OCN buds swear by the 3600 kits.

I'll take their 3600 kits on with my 3200 kit any day

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, MageTank said:

I'll take their 3600 kits on with my 3200 kit any day

 

You know some of my buds.  Go push their buttons.  They like a challenge. 

[NumLock21]

After launching their X299...

 

 

[leadeater]

3 hours ago, done12many2 said:

Do you have the dual 10Gb setup in Link Aggregation or just for standard redundancy?  I understand that it doesn't double your bandwidth, but it does come in handy when pushing stuff to multiple rigs on a network.  I use it now on Gigabit right now to help out.  

I use SMB3 multichannel so it is a true 20Gbps link for what I use it for.

[leadeater]

3 hours ago, MageTank said:

@leadeater @done12many2 I should get some extra Primocache keys for you guys, lol. Get a couple large NVMe drives, and cache your entire array of spinners with extreme PCIe speeds. Block-level cache sure is amazing, lol. 

Spinners? What are those, I use SSD .

 

I use Storage Spaces caching for my HDD caching but that's a different server.

[done12many2]

Just now, leadeater said:

Spinners? What are those, I use SSD .

 

It's what all the kids are playing with these days.  

 

 

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, done12many2 said:

 

It's what all the kids are playing with these days.  

 

 

No, not this cancer lol

[DXMember]

7640X with Gigabyte Auorus Gaming 9 anyone?

[TahoeDust]

7820x
Aorus Gaming 7
1080 ti FTW3
4x8gb Corsair 3200MHz
2 x 960 evo m.2 Raid 0
1tb 850 evo SSD
H115i with Push/Pull
EVGA 850w Supernova G2
Phanteks Enthoo Evolve Glass


That'll work...

[VagabondWraith]

2 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

7820x
Aorus Gaming 7
1080 ti FTW3
4x8gb Corsair 3200MHz
2 x 960 evo m.2 Raid 0
1tb 850 evo SSD
H115i with Push/Pull
EVGA 850w Supernova G2
Phanteks Enthoo Evolve Glass


That'll work...

I was thinking Asus Strix or ASRock Taichi. I haven't seen motherboard reviews yet, have you?

 

I'm ordering my CPU this weekend. $599 on the dot from B&H. No tax and free shipping!  

[TahoeDust]

5 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

I was thinking Asus Strix or ASRock Taichi. I haven't seen motherboard reviews yet, have you?

 

I'm ordering my CPU this weekend. $599 on the dot from B&H. No tax and free shipping!  

I have not seen motherboard reviews yet.  I almost went with the Asus Strix...actually had it preordered for about 8 hours last night.  The second m.2 slot being vertical just twisted my OCD too much.  Decided to give Gigabyte a change.  One of their boards ran in my HTPC 24/7 for about 5 years with no problems.

 

I ordered my 7820x from B&H also.  No tax and free 2 day shipping.  I ordered my board from Amazon for the free $50 steam card, which apparently they just shipped to me ahead of the board.

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, TahoeDust said:

I have not seen motherboard reviews yet.  I almost went with the Asus Strix...actually had it preordered for about 8 hours last night.  The second m.2 slot being vertical just twisted my OCD too much.  Decided to give Gigabyte a change.  One of their boards ran in my HTPC 24/7 for about 5 years with no problems.

 

I ordered my 7820x from B&H also.  No tax and free 2 day shipping.  I ordered my board from Amazon for the free $50 steam card, which apparently they just shipped to me ahead of the board.

 

Nice.  I doubt we'll see much in the way of clockspeed spreads from board to board with x299.  It mattered with x99 a bit more due to cache overclocking and stuff, but that isn't an issue for x299.  I think the only real differences we'll see is in memory overclocking with some of the 4 DIMM boards having advantages.  

 

Then again, I could be completely wrong.  VRMs could be more important then ever as this is a power hungry line for sure.  I still think lottery and thermals will play the larger role.  

 

Thanks for the heads up on the Steam card!

[VagabondWraith]

5 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

I have not seen motherboard reviews yet.  I almost went with the Asus Strix...actually had it preordered for about 8 hours last night.  The second m.2 slot being vertical just twisted my OCD too much.  Decided to give Gigabyte a change.  One of their boards ran in my HTPC 24/7 for about 5 years with no problems.

 

I ordered my 7820x from B&H also.  No tax and free 2 day shipping.  I ordered my board from Amazon for the free $50 steam card, which apparently they just shipped to me ahead of the board.

I think I'm gonna go with the ASRock Taichi. At $299 and PACKED with features it's a great bang for your buck board. Has 13 phase VRM, 12K caps and dual Intel gigabit LAN and AC WIFI. Never had ASRock before, but I've read nothing but great things about them. I like Asus, but they don't offer much for what they're asking. Btw, I loved my gigabyte gaming 7 board. 

[Fonzie92]

4 hours ago, VagabondWraith said:

70 is not too bad honestly if overclocked. Stock settings yes because it doesn't give you much room to OC. I like my components cool too but I feel it's a good trade off with a bit higher temps with the increased performance.

 

This CPU will beat my old 6700K into the ground. Especially encoding/rendering/streaming and such. Gameplay wise will likely be better once new bios updates roll out and patches.

We wouldn't have temperature problems if Intel actually soldered their CPUs like SandyBridge. But for some reason now, Shintels just tell me to delid the CPU and it's "ok". Intel also tells me that we should "avoid overclocking". Just wait a decade or so, they'll have upgradable CPU pin/dye expansion slots for more cores!!!! They'll sale like hotcakes and rival the delider prices!!

[TahoeDust]

3 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

I think I'm gonna go with the ASRock Taichi. At $299 and PACKED with features it's a great bang for your buck board. Has 13 phase VRM, 12K caps and dual Intel gigabit LAN and AC WIFI. Never had ASRock before, but I've read nothing but great things about them. I like Asus, but they don't offer much for what they're asking. Btw, I loved my gigabyte gaming 7 board. 

That ASRock package was super tempting.  Definitely a lot of board for the money.  I'm glad to hear you liked your Gigabyte Gaming 7 board.  I have read mostly positive things about them.  There is still a week for some atrocious review to make me cancel my order.

[AnonymousGuy]

13 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

Nice.  I doubt we'll see much in the way of clockspeed spreads from board to board with x299.  It mattered with x99 a bit more due to cache overclocking and stuff, but that isn't an issue for x299.  I think the only real differences we'll see is in memory overclocking with some of the 4 DIMM boards having advantages.  

 

Then again, I could be completely wrong.  VRMs could be more important then ever as this is a power hungry line for sure.  I still think lottery and thermals will play the larger role.  

 

Thanks for the heads up on the Steam card!

I'm waiting for X299 to roll out more before I make my mobo purchase.  The current crop of launch boards doesn't seem crazy enough for me, like the Z270 Gaming 9 triggered .  Where's the 48 phase CPU delivery with 10GbE, x16/x16/x16/x16/x16/x16 with M.2 risers, etc.  

 

Hopefully MSI comes through with an XPower Big Bang X299, ASRock with a Supercarier X299, Asus with a -WS E, etc.

[Juanitology]

Bitwit Kyle had a delidded engineering sample 7740K and still he could barely push it to 5.3GHz. 5 years ago I was getting 5.4GHz on water on a 2600K and still all these years later we can't get a CPU that will overclock as well as that one did. Intel has been sitting on their ass all these years, I'm so glad AMD is back to bring some competition back into the market. 

OC proof: http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3802606