LinusTechTips and being objective.

[Aphexxis]

I am new here, i like the site, seems pretty good.

 

How can we make this place better? Is it fair that users have to deal with people who are emotionally attached to electronic devices? brands, CPU's, their own opinions?

I favour a person with strong convictions, but when you throw in delusional and misinformation, it is hard to deal with such people.

 

Ideas?

 

 

[DildorTheDecent]

1 minute ago, Aphexxis said:

I am new here, i like the site, seems pretty good.

 

How can we make this place better? Is it fair that users have to deal with people who are emotionally attached to electronic devices? brands, CPU's, their own opinions?

I favour a person with strong convictions, but when you throw in delusional and misinformation, it is hard to deal with such people.

 

Ideas?

 

 

Got an example as to what you're on about?

 

Haven't encountered anything like this yet. 

[manikyath]

one major downside to having freedom of speech, is that it also means people are free to say stupid stuff as well.

[manikyath]

Just now, DildorTheDecent said:

Got an example as to what you're on about?

 

Haven't encountered anything like this yet. 

i have an example for you: "bios updates brick motherboards very often"

 

truth, from pugetsystems: "we dont have numbers on bios updates breaking boards, because we dont have it happen"

[Aphexxis]

7 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Got an example as to what you're on about?

 

Haven't encountered anything like this yet. 

I don't want to be that guy.

[Sauron]

You can't really stop people from spreading misinformation, if you see something that's not true just quote and correct the post.

[DildorTheDecent]

6 minutes ago, manikyath said:

i have an example for you: "bios updates brick motherboards very often"

 

truth, from pugetsystems: "we dont have numbers on bios updates breaking boards, because we dont have it happen"

ah right. If a motherboard BIOS were to brick during an update it would be down to mostly user error then? 

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, DildorTheDecent said:

ah right. If a motherboard BIOS were to brick during an update it would be down to mostly user error then? 

as i said to someone the other day, bios updates bricking are pretty much only because of user error, or power failures. (shutting down your system mid-update will still brick stuff, but that's kinda to be expected)

[paddy-stone]

21 minutes ago, manikyath said:

as i said to someone the other day, bios updates bricking are pretty much only because of user error, or power failures. (shutting down your system mid-update will still brick stuff, but that's kinda to be expected)

Agree, I have never seen a BIOS update brick a mobo, unless it was user mis-deeds or power failure during update. A way to prevent the latter is to have the PC hooked into a UPS just in case, otherwise you're at the will of the electricity gods. Luckily haven't had it happen to me in all my time and I don't have a UPS currently. We only usually experience power failure about once a year on average though, so not too big of a risk, more at risk if other stuff is going on in the house though that might trip the circuit breakers, usually turning on appliances is the most volatile thing that could cause a circuit breaker to trip.

[manikyath]

Just now, paddy-stone said:

Agree, I have never seen a BIOS update brick a mobo, unless it was user mis-deeds or power failure during update. A way to prevent the latter is to have the PC hooked into a UPS just in case, otherwise you're at the will of the electricity gods. Luckily haven't had it happen to me in all my time and I don't have a UPS currently. We only usually experience power failure about once a year on average though, so not too big of a risk, more at risk if other stuff is going on in the house though that might trip the circuit breakers, usually turning on appliances is the most volatile thing that could cause a circuit breaker to trip.

lesson learned: dont update your bios when parents are doing gardening work with electric tools

[paddy-stone]

Just now, manikyath said:

lesson learned: dont update your bios when parents are doing gardening work with electric tools

Yes, totally... in my personal life I don't have to worry about parents doing it, but yes that is the worst thing, other than using power tools

[AshleyAshes]

43 minutes ago, manikyath said:

i have an example for you: "bios updates brick motherboards very often"

One time!  And I had to bypass various protections to do it since it was technically a bios for another model motherboard...

 

...But I pulled the eeprom and reflashed it with a buspirate.

[manikyath]

Just now, AshleyAshes said:

it was technically a bios for another model motherboard

"user error"

[AshleyAshes]

1 minute ago, manikyath said:

"user error"

It was mobo for an Asus prebuilt PC but seemed identical to the retail mobo version.   I thought it'd work!  I was wrong...

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Aphexxis said:

I am new here, i like the site, seems pretty good.

 

How can we make this place better? Is it fair that users have to deal with people who are emotionally attached to electronic devices? brands, CPU's, their own opinions?

I favour a person with strong convictions, but when you throw in delusional and misinformation, it is hard to deal with such people.

 

Ideas?

 

 

AMD Ryzen 7 fanboys. Some people here really can't take in that Ryzen 7 isn't a viable option for gaming at the moment, games need optimizations. 

[Sousuke]

Well I joined this site whilst I was a Mac User (100% Mac) now I'm primarily a Windows user (95% Windows and 5% Mac)

 

I still use OSX on occasion as their disk utilities and software just have no alternative in the Windows Space.

 

Most of the people on here are objective and will listen to reason but Everyone has a personal preference in which they will promote as they've had a good experience with it or its all they've had to experience.

 

Some people however (A small minority) will pledge allegiance to their personal preference and anything other than that is in their opinion dumb, stupid, retarded, useless ect ect.

 

I use Windows 8.1 & 10, Mac OS X and Android on a daily basis! I also use a Gaming PC and Game Consoles! I have used an AMD CPUs and Intel CPUs, I've used nVidia's GPUs and AMD/ATI GPUs. 

 

I personally think "Whats the best solution for the task I'm trying to complete" and not including all the options isn't a smart move at all. 

[-TesseracT-]

2 hours ago, manikyath said:

i have an example for you: "bios updates brick motherboards very often"

 

truth, from pugetsystems: "we dont have numbers on bios updates breaking boards, because we dont have it happen"

Bios likes to update brick mobos, or bios updates like to brick mobos? The English language seems fundamentally bad/imperfect.

[Princess Luna]

Can't get preference or different point of views as wrong... the only thing wrong is when people do wrong affirmations without allowing countering, I had one of these cases recently when someone said the i5 7600k was the best gaming CPU available when I advised the OP to go with  the locked i7 7700 which would cost him the same for higher performance, one of his constant arguments were that games don't use 4 or more cores which is a very outdated rule, I tried showing him otherwise but the guy went berserker on insisting i7 7700 would be a waste of money even though the build kept the same end price lol.

[LAwLz]

2 hours ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Got an example as to what you're on about?

 

Haven't encountered anything like this yet. 

Have you seen any thread about AMD? 

[DildorTheDecent]

4 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Have you seen any thread about AMD? 

oh right yeah. Think i've got the jist of OP's post now. 

 

Trying to stay off those threads though. 

[SansVarnic]

2 hours ago, Aphexxis said:

I don't want to be that guy.

Hate to say it but To Late, you broached the subject.

LTT IMO is one of the best forums by far in terms of moderation and member content. There are other forums that have decent standards but this one stands out to me.

 

This type of thread unfortunately has the potential for flame war happenings fyi.

@Ryan_Vickers

@GoodBytes

 

[paddy-stone]

3 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Have you seen any thread about AMD? 

I like seeing the differing opinions on AMD, some of them make sense... others however don't really factor in, like saying AMD ryzen isn't good for gaming. If it's not good for gaming in your opinion, then buy an intel chip, simple really. But I don't agree, in some cases like my own, I would rather have a balanced chip, or one that sides on the better workload side of things.. gaming comes second to that IMO and for the price they look fantastic and will be getting one soon, just waiting for more boards to be available and BIOS problems ironed out. I don't mind people having a different opinion, but once it is given don't keep going on about it - like in the case for ryzen 7. IMO it gets decent frame rates, yes they aren't better than intels in some cases... but there;'s other factors on CPUs other than frame rates in gaming.

Anyway, don't want this to decend into another, so called fanboy post... I side on the one that gives me what I want at the time, don't care who makes it.

[tomas710]

Fanboys, retards, trolls and idiots are annoying indeed. But what's the standard? Let's say you like Asus because you've had a good experience with them. Should we now BAN YOU FOR BEING A FILTHY ASUS FANBOY...or let you have your opinion as long as you're not hurting anyone? I got permabanned from Twitter for being an anti-feminist and a right winger, been banned from Facebook 4 times now, bad opinions are necessary for the important ones to be allowed. You cannot censor anyone without censoring everyone.

[SansVarnic]

7 minutes ago, tomas710 said:

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You cannot censor anyone without censoring everyone.

So very true.

Today's standard is thinned skinned.

We all have to be tolerant of each other,  the problem with such a precedent the more "tolerant" we aim for, the more intolerant we become.

Even neutral statements are offensive these days ... so sad  

Edited March 18, 2017 by SansVarnic

[Fetzie]

1 hour ago, AshleyAshes said:

One time!  And I had to bypass various protections to do it since it was technically a bios for another model motherboard...

 

...But I pulled the eeprom and reflashed it with a buspirate.

I'd just stick a USB drive with the bios on it in the back of the motherboard and press the "recover my bios" button on the motherboard...