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CPU: better overclocked performance than 6800k

GPU: better overclocked performance than 1080 (Ti if it ever exists)

 

both have to be reasonably close in price to competitors if not less. (ie; not going to pay 20% more for 10% more performance) 

 

they also must have sexy waterblocks available :D

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1 minute ago, 0ld_Chicken said:

CPU: better overclocked performance than 6800k

GPU: better overclocked performance than 1080 (Ti if it ever exists)

 

both have to be reasonably close in price to competitors if not less. (ie; not going to pay 20% more for 10% more performance) 

 

they also must have sexy waterblocks available :D

keep in mind the 6700k has stronger individual cores than the 6800k

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There's nothing that'd make me switch to Ryzen atm as I bought my 6700K early November and I'm more than satisfied with its performance at 4,7GHz. If Vega is impressive then I might just ditch the Fury for it, but it'd have to be faster than a 1070 as my current Fury scores around that mark in benchmarks after OC.

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6 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

An STX AM4 board and a Vega card less than 6 inches long.

I believe you mean ITX.  I too am super into ITX PCs, I currently have a 4790 and GTX 1080 in a tiny TINY case (planning to move it into an even TINIER CASE the lian-li tu200B), because I have to move it back and forth between my room and my VR space.

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10 minutes ago, littlepigboy5 said:

keep in mind the 6700k has stronger individual cores than the 6800k

overclock it till it squeals and it'll come close enough :P

 

A good waterblock and a wall of radiators does wonders for 6+ core CPUs

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To Ryzen? It would take A LOT. After the disaster that was my experience with my last AMD CPU, I don't feel like giving that division of AMD my money again.

 

As for Vega, it would take a new game that really interest me but I cannot play because my current hardware isn't good enough even for the lowest setting. I don't care to hit the magical 60fps number, as long as it is playable(30+), that's all that matters to me, even if I have to reduce the graphics a bit.

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Well my rig is still at least a couple of years off retirement, and with a G-Sync monitor I'll almost certainly stick with the green team for my next graphics card. So for me it would need for my PC to die unexpectedly for Ryzen, or my monitor to die unexpectedly (or given the Asus PG278Q's reputation, perhaps not that unexpectedly) for Vega.

 

If I were to suffer a total loss and have to start from scratch again it would come down to a balance of power available and value for money, and I think AMD might win this time around for both CPU & GPU. With the premium on G-Sync monitors over Freesync I'm pretty sure Vega would win for me. Ryzen, supposedly the mobos should be cheaper than their Intel counterparts, though not much news about high end MATX and MITX boards a lack of which would be a deal breaker for me.

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Someone buying them for me? I'm perfectly happy with my 4670k@4.5GHz and my R9 380. I don't see any reason upgrade for the time being.

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13 minutes ago, littlepigboy5 said:

I believe you mean ITX.  I too am super into ITX PCs, I currently have a 4790 and GTX 1080 in a tiny TINY case (planning to move it into an even TINIER CASE the lian-li tu200B), because I have to move it back and forth between my room and my VR space.

No, STX. Google it, it's smaller than ITX.

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I'm always sticking to Intel from now on. I highly doubt Ryzen will beat out Intel's line. Intel is a massive company and I know a lot of people are having their doubts about Intel due to the very little performance gain from Skylake -> Kabylake, but Intel is not stupid. There has to be a reason, IMO, maybe because their confident Ryzen won't top them and they could have had inside information, who knows.

 

I'm interested in Vega too but much like Ryzen, I highly doubt it would top Nvidia's lineup.

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17 minutes ago, 0ld_Chicken said:

overclock it till it squeals and it'll come close enough :P

 

A good waterblock and a wall of radiators does wonders for 6+ core CPUs

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8 minutes ago, Omie said:

I'm always sticking to Intel from now on. I highly doubt Ryzen will beat out Intel's line. Intel is a massive company and I know a lot of people are having their doubts about Intel due to the very little performance gain from Skylake -> Kabylake, but Intel is not stupid. There has to be a reason, IMO, maybe because their confident Ryzen won't top them and they could have had inside information, who knows.

 

I'm interested in Vega too but much like Ryzen, I highly doubt it would top Nvidia's lineup.

whether or not intel is growing as rapidly as it could, Ryzen being a very strong competitor is important.  Honestly I hope Ryzen outperforms Intel's Kaby Lake $/performance wise so we see a large performance jump in the next generation.  Competition is always good.

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Just now, littlepigboy5 said:

whether or not intel is growing as rapidly as it could, Ryzen being a very strong competitor is important.  Honestly I hope Ryzen outperforms Intel's Kaby Lake $/performance wise so we see a large performance jump in the next generation.  Competition is always good.

Yeah you're definitely right about that. If Ryzen does happen to beat Intel somehow, I'll be more excited to see what Intel's response would be.

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11 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

No, STX. Google it, it's smaller than ITX.

i googled...woah.  No PCIE?

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If Ryzen gives great performance for the money, I'm gonna get it. Vega will be out of my price range, so I won't go with that.

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Price/performance aka bang for buck.

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M.2 can be adapted to PCIe X4 if the motherboard has it built in.

is PCIE 3.0 x4 enough bandwidth for a 1080?

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I would strongly consider buying a Vega card if there's a high end one that isn't at Nvidia's stupid pricing.

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1 minute ago, TheRandomness said:

Just about. You lose like 5%, but that's it.

better than the TB3 to PCIE boxes like the core

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Well my 4670k still kicking so Ryzen has to be a pretty big bang/buck ratio to convince me :D . As for Vega i have a Freesync monitor so red team only, plus im "only" running a single 290x and its starting to bottleneck the system at 4k res... I gonna upgrade my PC next year so by the time it will be actual there will be plenty of tests out there :D .

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Money, I thinking when it drops I'll probably get something around $300-350, has to be competing with the 1070.

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OMG you guys all assume it will be so cheap xDDDD If its that cheap AMD will just get squashed by Intel. AMD cant afford to do cheap prices. They need money. Intel doesnt. They have billions in pure cash and near no long term debt. AMD is the exact oppossite. Intel can just lower the prices to cheaper than AMDs and people will buy the Intels. Ryzen wont be under i5-6400 price for the 4/8 under the 6700K for the 6/12, and not under the 5820K for the 8/12. The "1080" Vega will also not be under 1070 price and so on

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