AMD Announces 'FreeSync 2'

[MoonSpot]

8 minutes ago, MageTank said:

Sounds kinky...

It is summer in OZ.  Surprising the things one has to endure to look fabulous in a bikini.

[patrickjp93]

Just now, Wix said:

Why is everyone finding the name ridiculous?

 

It's just sorta like HDMI 1.3, 2.0 or Bluetooth 4.1 etc.

Because AMD, so it's perfectly valid...

[Notional]

1 minute ago, Wix said:

Why is everyone finding the name ridiculous?

 

It's just sorta like HDMI 1.3, 2.0 or Bluetooth 4.1 etc.

 

Only resident AMD haters find the name ridiculous. I guess they have nothing better to critizice AMD for, now they are actually about to release some pretty good hardware.

[MoonSpot]

1 hour ago, Wix said:

Why is everyone finding the name ridiculous?

 

It's just sorta like HDMI 1.3, 2.0 or Bluetooth 4.1 etc.

Loop this, it helped me get through those comments.

[Fetzie]

4 minutes ago, Notional said:

Only resident AMD haters find the name ridiculous. I guess they have nothing better to critizice AMD for, now they are actually about to release some pretty good hardware.

No doubt the one thing that nVidia and Intel will be better at, will suddenly become the most important thing in the world, even though six months ago nobody gave a shit about it (like how power consumption and heat output suddenly became important after nearly 3 years of thermi).

[Notional]

3 minutes ago, Fetzie said:

No doubt the one thing that nVidia and Intel will be better at, will suddenly become the most important thing in the world, even though six months ago nobody gave a shit about it (like how power consumption and heat output suddenly became important after nearly 3 years of thermi).

 

Yup, who cares? It's not even thermal limits that are the issues in C/GPU's atm anyways. Why not just support whatever company that is currently doing the best fo the consumers?

[patrickjp93]

12 minutes ago, Notional said:

Yup, who cares? It's not even thermal limits that are the issues in C/GPU's atm anyways. Why not just support whatever company that is currently doing the best fo the consumers?

Because at 300W for a single-GPU card, thermals and power were the limiting factors in a build. You suddenly needed a 1000W PSU just for 2-card XFire. That's ridiculous.

[Notional]

2 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

Because at 300W for a single-GPU card, thermals and power were the limiting factors in a build. You suddenly needed a 1000W PSU just for 2-card XFire. That's ridiculous.

 

Xfire or SLI is ridiculous at this point in general. Afaik, no 14/16nm GPU runs at 300w tdp. Only NVidia's Titan X(P) cards are close at about 250w tdp.

[raphidy]

That's cool i guess. Last time I checked, you can do freesync without a freesync monitor through CRU which is very interesting for my case with a korean monitor. I wonder if toastyx can do this version also.

[Techicolors]

1 hour ago, SamStrecker said:

What is the deal with HDR? It looks fake and over processed. It is cool if you take an HDR photo with your DSLR at dusk but all these videos with it look fake. 

it's partly because HDR needs to be experienced in-person. i believe the 4k Ultra blu-ray LTT video thread goes into greater detail 

[patrickjp93]

48 minutes ago, Notional said:

Xfire or SLI is ridiculous at this point in general. Afaik, no 14/16nm GPU runs at 300w tdp. Only NVidia's Titan X(P) cards are close at about 250w tdp.

Vega flagship not know yet, but knowing AMD's Fury X and 290X, it will happen again.

[Notional]

4 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

Vega flagship not know yet, but knowing AMD's Fury X and 290X, it will happen again.

As long as perf/tdp is equal to, or better than, NVidia's high end cards, it really doesn't matter.

[leadeater]

2 hours ago, Fetzie said:

Although that firmware update isn't necessarily user-serviceable, so you'd have to send your monitor to Acer/LG/Samsung/whoever which could be a multiple week round trip

To add to that the existing G-sync chip may not have the performance to add said feature.

 

And about the mention of latency being a better design choice to use G-sync chip over a GPU that is pure nonsense, not only is a GPU vastly more powerful you can integrate certain things in to render pipelines earlier. Plus as the above point you don't have to replace your monitor to gain said features and a GPU replacement is far more common.

 

Doing things at the source is always better than after, if your bath is getting full you turn the tap off not get a bucket and start bailing .

[TravisB]

People think "Freesync 2" is a bad name? Titan X being used again is an even worst name.

[MageTank]

5 minutes ago, leadeater said:

To add to that the existing G-sync chip may not have the performance to add said feature.

 

And about the mention of latency being a better design choice to use G-sync chip over a GPU that is pure nonsense, not only is a GPU vastly more powerful you can integrate certain things in to render pipelines earlier. Plus as the above point you don't have to replace your monitor to gain said features and a GPU replacement is far more common.

 

Doing things at the source is always better than after, if your bath is getting full you turn the tap off not get a bucket and start bailing .

To add to this: It's not like it matters too much anyways. Current panels likely won't support HDR if they don't already, and if they need both HDR and G-Sync in the future, a new module will either be made to accommodate it, or the current one will be updated (if possible). If it costs more, so be it. People already pay a premium for G-Sync, and if they want HDR, they will chalk it up as an additional premium.

 

I personally wouldn't pay the premium, but I suppose it's subjective. I am still hoping for a world where Nvidia decides "Hey, let's allow the consumer to choose between using our G-Sync modules, or the standard built-in adaptive sync widely available in the spec itself!". Boy, what a world that would be. 

[DutchTexan]

freesync 2 pro +

[Space Reptile]

Freesync 2 : Electric Boogaloo 

[patrickjp93]

44 minutes ago, Notional said:

As long as perf/tdp is equal to, or better than, NVidia's high end cards, it really doesn't matter.

Too bad it isn't and pretty much hasn't been since Fermi.

[leadeater]

1 hour ago, patrickjp93 said:

Because at 300W for a single-GPU card, thermals and power were the limiting factors in a build. You suddenly needed a 1000W PSU just for 2-card XFire. That's ridiculous.

My dual 290X + 4930k has never used over 800W, not even during a furmark + prime96, and a hot running GPU is fine so long is it doesn't thermal throttle reducing performance. If there was a card released tomorrow that used 600W, was $600-800 NZD and was more than 4 times as fast as my dual 290X's I would buy it.

 

And unless you're doing a small case build thermal output of components doesn't mean a thing. Not once have a I ever looked at power draw or thermals when looking for a GPU, performance and price which I treat equally.

[Guest Darth Revan]

So it's Freesync but now they also have HDR. So why not FreesyncHDR?

Or even better if they only care about marketing, why not FreesyncRGB?

You can sell anything right now, provided of course it has RGB.

[Misanthrope]

8 minutes ago, Space Reptile said:

Freesync 2 : Electric Boogaloo 

- Syncnado

- Sync on a plane

- Night of the syncing frame

 

We should go on. 

[PlayStation 2]

Wouldn't a better name for this be FreeSync 1.1?

[MageTank]

2 minutes ago, leadeater said:

My dual 290X + 4930k has never used over 800W, not even during a furmark + prime96, and a hot running GPU is fine so long is it doesn't thermal throttle reducing performance. If there was a card released tomorrow that used 600W, was $600-800 NZD and was more than 4 times as fast as my dual 290X's I would buy it.

 

And unless you're doing a small case build thermal output of components doesn't mean a thing. Not once have a I ever looked at power draw or thermals when looking for a GPU, performance and price which I treat equally.

A buddy of mine had volt modded GTX 780's in triple SLI on a 1300w supernova PSU and a delidded 4790k and only barely went beyond 1000w under absolute max system load. Now he went to a single 1070, and that PSU whines when it's only at 1/4th it's rated load, lol. He also misses using it as a heater in the cold New York winters. 

 

Also, thermal output can matter somewhat in larger builds, but not in the way most think. Having less thermally demanding components means you can somewhat get away with running quieter/slower fans. For the quiet freaks, they will sometimes settle with medium-high end hardware or limit their overclocking to achieve this. Aside from this, and the ITX example you gave, thermals/power consumption doesn't/shouldn't mean much to the vast majority of consumers. 

[Space Reptile]

2 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Wouldn't a better name for this be FreeSync 1.1?

well look at GCN , they dont like using fractions , just whole numbers (GCN 1.1 1.2 do not in fact exist its GCN 1 2 3 4) 

[PlayStation 2]

Just now, Space Reptile said:

well look at GCN , they dont like using fractions , just wole numbers (GCN 1.1 1.2 do not in fact exist its GCN 1 2 3 4) 

Fair enough in that context.