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fx 9590 vs i7 6700k

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3 minutes ago, willsamuels said:

What is the real world gains?

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Okay everyone knows that! but as a user not a tech guy what will i get out of it lets face it 50 to 80 fps is fine for all games

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Price does not determine performance especially for AMD.

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Just don't even consider a 9590 at this point in time.

 

1. You need a good motherboard with good VRMs unless you are planning to use your house as fire wood.

2. You need a beefy CPU cooler to keep that it cool. 

3. You can get an i5 for the same price which will perform better in most tasks. Even an i3 can in some cases perform better in games. 

4. Why would you buy a 5 year old CPU architecture especially with Ryzen right around the corner.

5. The IPC is so bad which is the main reason you shouldn't buy it imo.  

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16 minutes ago, willsamuels said:

Okay everyone knows that! but as a user not a tech guy what will i get out of it lets face it 50 to 80 fps is fine for all games

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24 minutes ago, willsamuels said:

is it worth $124 buck more then fx 9590

The 9590 is comparable to an i5 6600k at best. But you also need at least a 240mm aio to cool it,and a really good 990fx board at least which all adds up.

 

31 minutes ago, willsamuels said:

Okay everyone knows that! but as a user not a tech guy what will i get out of it lets face it 50 to 80 fps is fine for all games

Go for an i5 6500 for gaming if you don't want to spend much, overclocking doesn't provide much gains at all for gaming, focus on a better gpu.

 

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A 9590 isn't especially different from a well-binned 8350(?) with a giant overclock on it.  Hence the 220W's of TDP.

 

Real-world gaming performance is similar to that of the 6600k, while using more than double the power and requiring a fancy motherboard and lots of cooling.

 

 

Or you could just put a decent skylake i5 or i7 on a normal-tier motherboard, with a normal cooler, and use much less electricity.

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lets just say the 6700k whips the 9590s ass in mostly everything 

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Unless the workload is nearly ideal, a 6700K will far outstrip the AMD Fx. In some, very limited scenarios, the FX can keep pace, though at the caveat of much higher power consumption (and it's associated downsides). 

 

For all intents and purposes, consider the FX series to be AMD's take on the Pentium 4.

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22 minutes ago, Zodiark1593 said:

Unless the workload is nearly ideal, a 6700K will far outstrip the AMD Fx. In some, very limited scenarios, the FX can keep pace, though at the caveat of much higher power consumption (and it's associated downsides). 

 

For all intents and purposes, consider the FX series to be AMD's take on the Pentium 4.

This is a fairly apt comparison.  The only difference is moar coars.

 

But weak-IPC, high clockspeed, high power chips ending up with less-than-amazing performance sure does bring echoes of Netburst.

 

My Phenom II is providing good enough performance still that I don't need to upgrade right now, but that's not to say that I'd recommend somebody build a new system based on one.  It's a 5-6 year old CPU that's still hanging on, and my expectations for it are based around that.

 

If I built a new machine RIGHT NOW, and only my videocard and hard drives were salvageable (and I didn't already have a spare AM3+ mobo on a shelf), I would end up with an intel chip.  This is coming from a massive AMD fanboy.

 

As it stands, I'll run this one through the Zen launch, and build something new on the AM4 platform.

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4 hours ago, willsamuels said:

is it worth $124 buck more then fx 9590

6700K is worth 224$ more...easily.

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