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You must not believe in Darwinism. If you did, you would have read his work and seen that he predicted an undeniable amount of evidence in the next few decades. I only see one or two (maybe more) pieces of controversial evidence.

Big Bang... There are 'plot holes' very similar to the Bible's creation story.

Dark matter... Scientist are looking for it. They aren't observing the universe (that's a different issue all together).

 

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Personally I'm theist, Christian to be precise and tbh I enjoy science, I absolutely love it especially physics ^_^ I do however respect anyone's personal views on the matter and expect an equal amount of respect in return; when you respect someone's belief (or disbelief) and they just kinda shit on yours it kinda feels terrible :/ and it's very frustrating....

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Yet we are still here. But we all know where this is going so I'll just stop now.

Space disagrees (Space-Time particularly)

Depends on your interpretation of the evidence, and yes, evidence can be interpreted differently. That's where inferences can come from. Interpretation. Though the different types and classes of evidence make explaining that complicated, I believe it to be true. 

Well yeah, although I kinda lumped space with time because what is space if not a lack of anything? You can't say that someone created a space inside a space, you can only say that there was a "nothing" and then there was a "something" inside that nothing. That's why space and time are linked in such a way, and that's part of what quantum mechanics is about. So far there's nothing to disprove it and a lot of evidence which supports it. I agree that there are multiple interpretations, I'm just saying that none of the scientific models point towards an omnipotent being because there is no reason to suspect such a thing beyond "well, it could be I guess".

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Science is the only religion.

I strongly believe in the multiverse theory.

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I feel like I should say, to all the people saying "believing in the big bang is like believing in God" or "I don't think the big bang happened because there is no way nothing was here before it, time/space can't create itself" There are scientific theories that explain all of those things, most notably m-theory and string theory, they just aren't taught in the average high school (usually only talked about in depth in a college course). I don't mean to create an argument, I am just saying that science does help explain this, and science constantly is trying to understand more and more of it.

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Science is the only religion.

 

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Guys can you just stop it?

Just vote on the poll and give a brief explanation of what you believe, no need to get into argument's.

This happens every single time something like this pop's up...get some manners, respect other peoples beliefs.

We cannot yet prove or disprove god (or the idea of god), we most likely never will so grow up and get along....

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Soo from poll it started to discussion and soon to-be locked thread...

Thread Ragnarok shields online....

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Science is the only religion.

 

wat *confused*

Well yeah, although I kinda lumped space with time because what is space if not a lack of anything? You can't say that someone created a space inside a space, you can only say that there was a "nothing" and then there was a "something" inside that nothing. That's why space and time are linked in such a way, and that's part of what quantum mechanics is about, and so far there's nothing to disprove it and a lot of evidence which supports it. I agree that there are multiple interpretations, I'm just saying that none of the scientific models point towards an omnipotent being because there is no reason to suspect such a thing beyond "well, it could be I guess".

Well, you said "if you assume Time has always been" (paraphrased), but the Big Bang isn't an explosion in space. It is an explosion of space. Space itself expanded from nothing because it came from an infinitely small point (i.e. no space), according to the theory. 

Therefore, if it came from no space, and space and time are one in Space-Time, then Time began when Space began, at the Big Bang. If we want to go along with the theory anyway. 

Just saying. 

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I've never said the boldened part out loud, but have believed it for quite some time. 

Think about it. 5,000 years of the most educated humans (for their respective times) debating and talking about this book (or rather, the respective books therein). Just food for thought.

That's why, in Judaism, at least, we have books of rules, teachings, and commentary (one of which is the Mishnah), and commentary on that commentary (Gemara), and lots of debates on that commentary.

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I feel like I should say, to all the people saying "believing in the big bang is like believing in God" or "I don't think the big bang happened because there is no way nothing was here before it, time/space can't create itself" There are scientific theories that explain all of those things, most notably m-theory and string theory, they just aren't taught in the average high school (usually only talked about in depth in a college course). I don't mean to create an argument, I am just saying that science does help explain this, and science constantly is trying to understand more and more of it.

 

Thank you for putting that in a diplomatic way :)

 

Unfortunately, my approach is a bit more:

 

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I was baptized in an apparantly lutheran church (had to look that one up on wikipedia xD)

When i was old enough to think for myself i turned to Buddhism. because i liked the "Don't be a dick" values

I still like it. the basic things about it is to learn to respect other people and their way of life.
A few years ago i practiced kendo and iaido. That's when i decided to live my life by the bushido code. And it's worked out well so far^^

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I don't specifically believe in god. I believe that any diety might exist since there are people that believe (exept scientology..)

hell.. for all i know i might end up in aasgard,heaven,hell or nirvana.. or i might get reincarnated as some kind of pidgeon or lizard

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Thread Ragnarok shields online....

Why bother? Let it go into flamewar and die like any other thread about religion here. I stopped discussing "god or no god" type topics after the first thread i came close to since im here.

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plz, no.

You don't need to go around saying 'no' to every Atheist's reply, i don't want to be part of the Ragnarok so i wouldn't bother explaining. I believe in many things, especially in that everything has an answer that can be found - but God isn't one of them :P  And will likely never for me.

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You don't need to go around saying 'no' to every Atheist's reply, i don't want to be part of the Ragnarok so i wouldn't bother explaining. I believe in many things, especially in that everything has an answer that can be found - but God isn't one of them :P  And will likely never for me.

Hey, I'm a fervent atheist (read previous responses plz). I just believe even more strongly that atheism is not a religion.

 

 

Well, you said "if you assume Time has always been" (paraphrased), but the Big Bang isn't an explosion in space. It is an explosion of space. Space itself expanded from nothing because it came from an infinitely small point (i.e. no space), according to the theory. 

Therefore, if it came from no space, and space and time are one in Space-Time, then Time began when Space began, at the Big Bang. If we want to go along with the theory anyway. 

Just saying. 

As you said, there are multiple interpretations of the model. There's no reason afaik that time could not have been without space at the start, but yes you are correct that the original big bang concept is an explosion of the universe from nothing.

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Well it has begun...

 

Time to GTFO before mods come...

 

What has begun? This has been really light-hearted so far, with the occasional spattering of someone politely explaining a scientific principle or giving a reason for their belief. EXACTLY what we want, right?

I think someone was hoping for something a bit more dramatic. Like when someone carefully pulls open a bottle of champagne with a dishcloth rahter than shooting it across the room :P

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no option for Agnositc Theist?

I don't believe in religion, but I believe in a form of deity is likely to exist. 

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