Iphone 7 may be able to record UHD at 60fps [FALSE RUMOR]

[JohnnyCorporalTech]

As much as i hate iphones, yes i am an android fanboy, this is very interesting. the only question that is left is whether the storage will be fast enough to handle recording 4k at 60fps. 

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The information claims that iPhone 7 will be able to record 4K videos at 60FPS. While cameras that are able to record 4K videos at 30FPS are quite widespread, there is no smartphone in the world right now that can record UHD videos at 60FPS, so it will definitely be another milestone for Apple if it ends up being true.

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report also states that the feature is not going to be limited to iPhone 7 Plus, which is expected to feature a dual-camera, but it is also going to be present on the 4.7-inch handset that’s going to be announced alongside its phablet counterpart.

if this source turns out to be true, the smaller handset users may not be missing out on any camera functionality, unlike previous generations where the plus editions got additional features such as OIS.

 

what is your take on this? would this move you to consider the iphone 7?

 

Source: http://wccftech.com/iphone-7-4k-video-recording-high-frames/ 

 

EDIT: with the iPhone 7 being launched,  there is no 60fps 4k, Only 30fps 4k

Edited September 8, 2016 by JohnnyCorporalTech
Rumor turned out to be false

[DarkBlade2117]

Storage be fast enough? Doesn't the 6s have some of the fastest if not the fastest storage?

[Guest]

No. iPhone never had options for micro sd slot. What if you record a lot. 128GB will be enough? You can't swap storage. 

 

A similar phone with options for micro sd slot allow you to record and then when the storage gets full you can swap for another one.

 

I mean 4K 60fps is very very big

[rattacko123]

3 minutes ago, JohnnyCorporalTech said:

the only question that is left is whether the storage will be fast enough to handle recording 4k at 60fps. 

iPhone uses NVMe, so yes, the storage will be fast enough. The question is, will capacity be enough?

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

3 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

Storage be fast enough? Doesn't the 6s have some of the fastest if not the fastest storage?

Its also going to be compressed to probably around 150mbit, so only 20MiB/s write, not much.

[Dabombinable]

And what about the minuscule, non expandable storage space the iPhone 7 will have? Since it will probably have a PCIe SSD of some sort for storage, I wouldn't be concerned about the writes....

[Rune]

Sure glad they'd be able to see it all on the sub-FHD screen for all of the three seconds the storage would last.

[Kimmers]

Seeing how RED's mini mags start at 120gb for a dedicated 8k (uncompressed too i think?) video camera, I think Apple's offerings will be more than sufficient. What I'm wondering is how well the phone will handle heat as high resolution video recording is very intensive. 

[Marc Degasperi]

First how are they going to do that and why would apple do that. Storage is the number one problem with iPhones and unless you have the 128Gb or Rumored 256Gb model this feature would be just a gimmick because you couldn't even record more than a few minutes before your storage was full. Lets say the new iPhone Seven uses the same iNand as the 6s then it would have about 160mb/s. Think about this to truly take a great looking 4k 60 Fps video it needs to be uncompressed and that would mean 12 x 3840 x 2160 x 60=5,971,968,000 bps=711 MB/s witch is way to high for the iPhone storage you would need something like nvme storage to record uncompressed. Lastly that dual core or maybe quad core Apple A10 probably cannot handle that kind of task anyway without draining the battery within half an hour.
 

[TidaLWaveZ]

They'll have 4k 60fps recording capabilities, but a screen that may not even be full HD...

[Sauron]

Yes, good luck filming in uhd 60fps on a device with 32gb of internal storage and no expandability options. 30 minutes and your phone is full, after that you need to connect it to another device to offload the video or wait 18 hours for it to upload to the cloud.

 

I don't understand the fuss about smartphone cameras, I'd use them in a pinch but in no other situation. Not when you can buy excellent dedicated cameras for a lot less than some of these phones. What are you even going to film with an iPhone that would benefit from uhd and 60fps (assuming the compression is acceptable, because if it looks like a youtube video they might as well not bother with 2160p)? It can't be used as an action cam, its battery, ergonomics and storage limitations make it unfit for filming your holidays and overall it just seems like snake oil. It's good that it's there I suppose, but given all the other shortcomings I'd still not even consider one.

[iUSEMAC]

But where are you gonna save all that dank videos m8?

[anonysrom]

I want to see how fast the storage is depleted on the base 32GB model recording at 4K 60FPS, assuming that the rumors are true.

[suicidalfranco]

more than 32GB and external storage for filming is a gimmick when you have icloud /s

[Gr0egercesg]

If so then the base model will, HOPEFULLY be 32gb.

[Commodus]

It's not much different than the legions of Android phones that have had 4K video recording despite carrying 16GB or 32GB of base storage.  4K recording won't be on by default; those who really care about it will either get more storage to accommodate the footage or limit it to special situations.

 

When the rumors have the middle- and upper-tiers carrying 128GB and 256GB of storage, I'm not particularly worried about space.

[Omon_Ra]

Ignoring the storage capacity limitations, what iPhone (or really, any smartphone) user actually needs 4K at 60fps? I'd say 99% of any photos or videos that I take on my phone ust stay on the phone. Some get uploaded to Instagram, but Instagram (Facebook, YouTube, and everything else as well) compresses the balls out of everything as it is, and the majority of views will be from a smartphone anyways. And then I'd be willing to bet the large majority of camera use is apps like Snap Chat, where the quality is doodoo for everything no matter what. 4K 60fps is cool, but for a smartphone it just doesn't make sense.

[mikat]

10 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Its also going to be compressed to probably around 150mbit, so only 20MiB/s write, not much.

yup, i think the 6s SSD can do 400 MB/s or something like that

[Tam3n]

Of course it all depends on the video bit rate...  

[Doobeedoo]

Urm, aren't there smartphones that can do this already?
Also yeah, storage speed won't be an issues.

[Dabombinable]

7 hours ago, Sauron said:

Yes, good luck filming in uhd 60fps on a device with 32gb of internal storage and no expandability options. 30 minutes and your phone is full, after that you need to connect it to another device to offload the video or wait 18 hours for it to upload to the cloud.

 

I don't understand the fuss about smartphone cameras, I'd use them in a pinch but in no other situation. Not when you can buy excellent dedicated cameras for a lot less than some of these phones. What are you even going to film with an iPhone that would benefit from uhd and 60fps (assuming the compression is acceptable, because if it looks like a youtube video they might as well not bother with 2160p)? It can't be used as an action cam, its battery, ergonomics and storage limitations make it unfit for filming your holidays and overall it just seems like snake oil. It's good that it's there I suppose, but given all the other shortcomings I'd still not even consider one.

I just use my phone for video, since it actually takes excellent 1080p 24fps videos, and 720p 60fps videos-plus its microphone is awesome as well. Still photos however are done using the DSLR camera that my Grandmother replaced-its been all over the world and takes photos far better than my previous 10 & 7.2MP cameras.

[ShadowCaptain]

Super excited if this is true

 

im gonna get the biggest top end model anyway 

[ShadowCaptain]

7 hours ago, Sauron said:

Yes, good luck filming in uhd 60fps on a device with 32gb of internal storage and no expandability options. 30 minutes and your phone is full, after that you need to connect it to another device to offload the video or wait 18 hours for it to upload to the cloud.

 

I don't understand the fuss about smartphone cameras, I'd use them in a pinch but in no other situation. Not when you can buy excellent dedicated cameras for a lot less than some of these phones. What are you even going to film with an iPhone that would benefit from uhd and 60fps (assuming the compression is acceptable, because if it looks like a youtube video they might as well not bother with 2160p)? It can't be used as an action cam, its battery, ergonomics and storage limitations make it unfit for filming your holidays and overall it just seems like snake oil. It's good that it's there I suppose, but given all the other shortcomings

Easy, stick it on the new osmo mobile and have an insine little portable rig with amazing stabilisation 

[Sauron]

Just now, ShadowCaptain said:

Easy, stick it on the new osmo mobile and have an insine little portable rig with amazing stabilisation 

yeah but... why a phone? if you can carry a stabilizer around you can also carry a dedicated camera.

[dalekphalm]

2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

yeah but... why a phone? if you can carry a stabilizer around you can also carry a dedicated camera.

The reason why a phone is exactly the reason of not wanting to carry a dedicated camera. And yes, if you carry a stabilizer, you can also carry a camera, but that's ANOTHER piece of equipment to lug around.

 

Let's be honest. Smartphone cameras are good enough for 99% of people, who, if they even did buy a dedicated camera, they would likely buy a piece of crap $100 point and shoot compact anyway.