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Well, it has been officially confirmed. zMeul has blocked half of the LTT forum members because they've proven him wrong. What an exciting debate culture, isn't it?

It's kinda like when as a kid, you'd play with your friend and when he was about to lose he ripped the controller out of your hands or shut off the Playstation so you couldn't win. That's the kinda guy he is.

 

Also, while he won't be able to read this: common sense dictates that if you feel like one person acts like an asshole, then that person is probably an asshole. If you find that everyone acts like an asshole, you're probably the asshole.

 

I'll let that one sink in.

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19 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

On one hand, I can't wait for tomorrow when the NDA is lifted.

On the other hand, it is pretty funny seeing all the AMD fanboys go "oh my God it is amazing! AMD are so good!" every time a "leaked" benchmark shows the 480 performing well, and "totally fake guys! It doesn't use the proper drivers! Just wait until drivers make it better!" as soon as benchmarks shows it not being as good as the hype-train wants to make it out to be.

 

Still betting on the 480 being between the 390 and 390X in terms of performance.

Yep, that's why it's best to assume all leaks are fake until proven otherwise, and I agree with the idea of around 390-390x performance since that would be a reasonable improvement for a die change

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5 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Also, why are they not using an i7-6700K? This should alleviate bottlenecks.

They're probably trying to replicate a "realistic" gamer rig. 

 

Even though the Core i7 has superior frame time thanks to HT. 

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29 minutes ago, Valentyn said:

Oh nice, so it's $209 for a 24" 1080 144hz Freesync monitor.

 

Darn nice budget monitor with nice features.

Yeah, I'll probably buy one in a couple weeks if the 480 performs as advertised (at least 390, possibly 390X/980 when oc'd.)  My 770 is getting long in the tooth, but  not at the $420 for a 1070 right now. Especially when I need a new monitor, and i can get a 480 and that monitor for the same price as a 1070. 

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1. this thread is just being spammed by fanboys of both sides :P 

2. Seems so fucking fake...as many of you said, a 380X beating a 970 is basically impossible, even in DX12 titles with everything in AMDs favor it's unlikely. Secondly, how can the 380X be better than the RX480? The 970 being better is fair enough but holy fuck, 380X being better just doesn't make sense.

3.Wait 24 hours and all the real benchies would be out. 

4. Magazines are usually completely biased so...let's just not trust em :) 

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9 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

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17 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

They're probably trying to replicate a "realistic" gamer rig. 

 

Even though the Core i7 has superior frame time thanks to HT. 

frame time? Say what.......

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18 minutes ago, ace_cheaply said:

Yeah, I'll probably buy one in a couple weeks if the 480 performs as advertised (at least 390, possibly 390X/980 when oc'd.)  My 770 is getting long in the tooth, but  not at the $420 for a 1070 right now. Especially when I need a new monitor, and i can get a 480 and that monitor for the same price as a 1070. 

Get a Nixeus Vue24 like I have instead. It has a wider freesync range. 

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6 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

frame time? Say what.......

a CPU has to make a work order for a core but this process is not perfect hens HT to fill in the gaps. I think this is what he mean by time frame since a HT CPU can do more work in the same time than a CPU that has the same amount of cores but no HT

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10 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

Get a Nixeus Vue24 like I have instead. It has a wider freesync range. 

I think AOC released a driver to fix the 48hz floor, so they both should be 30-144hz range, and I really like the stand on the AOC model.  Hopefully the 480 doesn't drop below 50fps at 1080p often enough, soon enough, to make it a problem. 

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43 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Also, why are they not using an i7-6700K? This should alleviate bottlenecks.

 

Who said it would have 32 ROPS? This is the likely config, 2304:144:64 (Stream processors: TMUs: ROPs)

The latest GPUZ screenshots that's been updated for Polaris shows the 480 has 32 ROPs. Techpowerup also lists the 470 as having 24 ROPs.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2848/radeon-rx-480

 

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5 minutes ago, Valentyn said:

The latest GPUZ screenshots that's been updated for Polaris shows the 480 has 32 ROPs. Techpowerup also lists the 470 as having 24 ROPs.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2848/radeon-rx-480

 

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https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2861/radeon-rx-470

That makes no sense though!!!!!! Ahh!! We don't know anything until tomorrow. Alright, i'm going to bed. It's 1am.

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I gotta question World of Tanks as a metric. Granted it is far more popular in eastern europe than it is here but it only JUST got support for DX11 and it has many performance foibles that negate using it for an objective benchmark. Heck networking issues can cause havoc with its framerate. Multithreading is still nascent as the audio is the only part legitimately disparate. It's not robust enough to provide clean numbers. 

 

I look forward to published numbers we can all more easily get behind. 

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10 minutes ago, kelvindeschutter said:

a CPU has to make a work order for a core but this process is not perfect hens HT to fill in the gaps. I think this is what he mean by time frame since a HT CPU can do more work in the same time than a CPU that has the same amount of cores but no HT

Yeah close enough. HT on an i7 allows it to do more work and do work faster than a non HT processor such as an i5. This also gives the impression that the i5 "bottlenecks" GPUs because the i7 is ahead with frame rates. 

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So it's still faster than 980 , which is good.

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3 hours ago, Kobz360 said:

Oh boy.. this is gonna be anotha one of "those" threads. The card comes out in like a day lol

it could be launching in three minutes and this same shitshow would still be going on. 

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20 minutes ago, Sharkyx1 said:

So it's still faster than 980 , which is good.

I think the biggest flaw here is the magazine saying the 380X and 970 is OCed tells us nothing about their clocks...maybe the 970 was OCed at 1600Mhz with the 380X at 1400mhz...

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13 minutes ago, ONOTech said:

Let me get this straight.

 

The one leak that shows the 480 performing under a GTX 970 (with the discrepancy of an OC'ed 380X beating an OC'ed 970), you choose to believe.

 

Yet, the countless other leaks that show the 480 handedly beating the 970 and lining up with the 390X with little to no performance discrepancies, you choose to disregard.

 

Despite Polaris being a node shrink & AMD showing that a two 480s beat one 1080 (something 380Xs or even 390s couldn't ever possibly achieve), you continue to cherry pick this one.

 

Are you serious right now? What kind of fanboyism...

Three words:

 

zMeul.

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29 minutes ago, ONOTech said:

Are you serious right now? What kind of fanboyism...

of what, mate?

 

I'm basing my comment on months and months of data that places RX480 exactly where the polish magazine puts it - and I've said it many months ago, way before all these leaks existed

 

but we'll have the definitive answer to that question soon enough

 

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here's something else: https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1610538-1-1.html

 

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5 hours ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Well, this doesn't seem like a proper benchmark, so I'd ignore it. I am from Poland so I understand everything there, and it's flawed.

3. The testbench CPU is an 6600K, not an i7, to prevent any potential bottlenecks

At same clock speed, there's literally no difference between a 6600k and a 6700k in games.

5 hours ago, zMeul said:

no it's not

50 is just like everything between 30 and 60 - you will have tearing and stutter all over; you either cap at 30 or 60, if you can

 

Anyone who thinks there isnt a big difference between 40 and 50 fps is mentally challenged to the point of being relegated to console peasantry.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, RagnarokDel said:

At same clock speed, there's literally no difference between a 6600k and a 6700k in games.

Why do you have to open this up now? here?  :/:D

 

There is a growing number of games that do benefit from the extra threads of the i7.  No, I will not source it.  ;)

 

I don't think he meant you can't game with an i5.  I believe he was referring to a less than optimal test bench being used.

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7 minutes ago, stconquest said:

Why do you have to open this up now? here?  :/:D

 

There is a growing number of games that do benefit from the extra threads of the i7.  No, I will not source it.  ;)

You're still better off disabling hyperthreading to be able to gain a higher clock speed for 90%+ of games.

15 minutes ago, zMeul said:

here's something else: https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1610538-1-1.html

 

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That 970 is overclocked by 37% on the core

 

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13 minutes ago, zMeul said:

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do you have by any change a slide that show fps and not just %

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4 minutes ago, RagnarokDel said:

You're still better off disabling hyperthreading to be able to gain a higher clock speed for 90%+ of games.

That 90% includes games from a decade ago.  I have plenty of games that do in fact use all my i5 core threads.  Games that may no be that popular even, Anno 2205 (iirc) did use all four cores. 

 

Like I said, the number is growing.

 

Just repeating this because I added it in after:  I don't think he meant you can't game with an i5.  I believe he was referring to a less than optimal test bench being used.

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2 minutes ago, kelvindeschutter said:

do you have by any change a slide that show fps and not just %

ask the leakers, I'm just the courier 

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