Microsoft makes Windows 10 a 'recommended update' for Windows 7 and 8.1 users

[SansVarnic]

Microsoft makes Windows 10 a 'recommended update' for Windows 7 and 8.1 users

By: Mark Wilson of Beta News

http://betanews.com/2016/02/01/microsoft-makes-windows-10-a-recommended-update-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users/

Well MS has changed the upgrade of Win10 from "Optional Update" to "Recommended Update" for Win7 and Win8.1 users.

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Microsoft has been accused of pushing Windows 10 rather aggressively, and the company's latest move is going to do nothing to silence these accusations. For Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 users, Windows 10 just became a 'recommended update' in Windows Update.

This does not help MS's position in fighting off the tin hats thinking that MS is aggressively pushing the upgrade, honestly I cant disagree really with this tactic being used. 

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A Microsoft spokesperson said:

As we shared in late October on the Windows Blog, we are committed to making it easy for our Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 customers to upgrade to Windows 10. We updated the upgrade experience today to help our customers, who previously reserved their upgrade, schedule a time for their upgrade to take place.

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The change is not entirely out of the blue, but it is still likely to catch many people off guard. There is still the ability to opt out of the installation -- and even if the Windows 10 upgrade is accidentally completed, there is a 31 day grace period in which to revert to Windows 7 or 8.1 -- but this will still be seen as an aggressive push by Microsoft.

I agree that MS Win10 is not for everyone, I also agree with the reporter that this will be seen as an another aggressive push by Microsoft.

Seriously, MS needs to tone it down a bit. The claims to make it easier to upgrade excuse is getting rather old but with things like this it makes it a little frustrating. I like Win10 and I use it on my daily driver but I have systems I want to stay at Win7 just as well.

 

Thoughts?

[Bensemus]

I already get a pop up at least once a day telling me to upgrade. You can push people too far where they will start resisting for the sake of resisting. 

[KuJoe]

In other news, Honda makes the Accord a recommended upgrade to the Civic (but unlike Microsoft it's not a free upgrade).

[EChondo]

Hopefully my family members read their updates before doing it.

Already have a headache coming along...

[Kherm]

In other news, it's always a good idea to upgrade iOS or Android, so why not Windows?

[zMeul]

I've hidden all the KBs relating to W10 upgrade in Windows Updates - MS can go  *!@#!%^ 

[itsmyjobtoknow]

Well it is a recommended update....

[GoodBytes]

 

I just want to say, excellent post @sansvarnic!

 

 

[SansVarnic]

22 minutes ago, Kherm said:

In other news, it's always a good idea to upgrade iOS or Android, so why not Windows?

It is, but just not always. Windows 10 is a different beast than Win7 or 8.1. With it still in its infancy there are a lot of programs and drivers that don't support fully or work well within the Win10 atmosphere. As the OS matures the more adapted software developers will conform and adapt their software to the Win10 environment. For those of decent tech backgrounds, Win10 is easy to conform to but those like my grandfather wont be able to do so and having the system upgrade as an update won't bode well for them. Beside iOS and android upgrades are not so fluid either. 

[Trik'Stari]

42 minutes ago, Bensemus said:

I already get a pop up at least once a day telling me to upgrade. You can push people too far where they will start resisting for the sake of resisting. 

You can remove that, along with the forced telemetry crap, by removing certain "security" updates from your system. I did.

[AlTech]

41 minutes ago, Kherm said:

In other news, it's always a good idea to upgrade iOS or Android, so why not Windows?

Exactly, the give apple and Google a free pass so why not Microsoft?

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Exactly, the give apple and Google a free pass so why not Microsoft?

There is a difference in changing phone OS for an update compared to a complete environment change like Windows 7 to Windows 10.

[AlTech]

1 hour ago, SansVarnic said:

Microsoft makes Windows 10 a 'recommended update' for Windows 7 and 8.1 users

By: Mark Wilson of Beta News

http://betanews.com/2016/02/01/microsoft-makes-windows-10-a-recommended-update-for-windows-7-and-8-1-users/

Well MS has changed the upgrade of Win10 from "Optional Update" to "Recommended Update" for Win7 and Win8.1 users.

This does not help MS's position in fighting off the tin hats thinking that MS is aggressively pushing the upgrade, honestly I cant disagree really with this tactic being used. 

I agree that MS Win10 is not for everyone, I also agree with the reporter that this will be seen as an another aggressive push by Microsoft.

Seriously, MS needs to tone it down a bit. The claims to make it easier to upgrade excuse is getting rather old but with things like this it makes it a little frustrating. I like Win10 and I use it on my daily driver but I have systems I want to stay at Win7 just as well.

 

Thoughts?

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If the majority don't jump onto Windows 10, Microsoft will have to pull some more shady shit until everybody is on Windows 10.

If I was Microsoft, I would have forced the update on you without you knowing. So that, when you stopped using your computer and shut it down it, would install Windows 10 before doing that but without showing you. So then it shuts down and the next morning it has Windows 10 on it.

 

[SansVarnic]

Just now, AluminiumTech said:

If the majority don't jump onto Windows 10, Microsoft will have to pull some more shady shit until everybody is on Windows 10.

If I was Microsoft, I would have forced the update on you without you knowing. So that, when you stopped using your computer and shut it down it, would install Windows 10 before doing that but without showing you. So then ti shuts down and the next morning it has Windows 10 on it.

 

Not only would that be illegal, but unethical.

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, SansVarnic said:

Not only would that be illegal, but unethical.

What part being illegal? You technically agreed to this. Microsoft can do whatever they want to Windows and to your machine.

[SansVarnic]

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

What part being illegal? You technically agreed to this. Microsoft can do whatever they want to Windows and to your machine.

Win10 and Win7 are different OS's. When Win10 was released it was released as a different Software all together. Just by changing the technical definition of what an upgrade is just to pass on a different OS to those that do not want it is not legal its called fraud. I know you not from the US but Microsoft is and its is bound by US law.

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, SansVarnic said:

Win10 and Win7 are different OS's. When Win10 was released it was released as a different Software all together. Just by changing the technical definition of what an upgrade is just to pass on a different OS to those that do not want it is not legal its called fraud. I know you not from the US but Microsoft is and its is bound by US law.

Whatever. In that case just stop Windows Update on Windows 7 and stop.Net from working (basically crippling everything) Then advertise Windows 10.

[Trik'Stari]

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

Whatever. In that case just stop Windows Update on Windows 7 and stop.Net from working (basically crippling everything) Then advertise Windows 10.

And you'd get an immediate class action lawsuit, and come out looking like the asshole that is M$

[SansVarnic]

2 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Whatever. In that case just stop Windows Update on Windows 7 and stop.Net from working (basically crippling everything) Then advertise Windows 10.

 

Just now, Trik'Stari said:

And you'd get an immediate class action lawsuit, and come out looking like the asshole that is M$

Pretty much what @Trik'Stari said.

MS is bound by its own EULA that they support Win7 until the support date. Contracts work 2 ways. We all know you love Windows but what you proposed is unethical, no matter what country your from.

[Trik'Stari]

1 minute ago, SansVarnic said:

 

Pretty much what @Trik'Stari said.

MS is bound by its own EULA that they support Win7 until the support date. Contracts work 2 ways. We all know you love Windows but what you proposed is unethical, no matter what country your from.

I'm still waiting for the forced updates to blow up in their faces. When it does finally happen, It's going to be hysterical. And believe me, it is going to happen sooner or later.

[obsidian1200]

Wow, I didn't even see this at work today, 10 upgrades were still showing as optional updates. This is going to suck, especially given how many people are trying to avoid Windows 10 like the plague. Hopefully disabling automatic updates in Windows Update will be enough to stop 10 from automatically installing.

[Trik'Stari]

2 minutes ago, obsidian1200 said:

Wow, I didn't even see this at work today, 10 upgrades were still showing as optional updates. This is going to suck, especially given how many people are trying to avoid Windows 10 like the plague. Hopefully disabling automatic updates in Windows Update will be enough to stop 10 from automatically installing.

It is, but don't forget to look through your already installed updates and remove the one recommending W10, as well as the one that brings the telemetry bullshit to Windows 7 (not sure about 8.1)

 

https://www.hackread.com/microsoft-updates-spy-on-windows7-8-users/

[SansVarnic]

1 minute ago, Trik'Stari said:

I'm still waiting for the forced updates to blow up in their faces. When it does finally happen, It's going to be hysterical. And believe me, it is going to happen sooner or later.

I am sure if this doesn't do it their next move will. MS is becoming a bit overbearing with the upgrade to Win10 and I openly admit this (being the Windows fan myself) and I understand why they are doing it but for the sake of sanity they are doing it the wrong way. People will adopt Win10 in time as long as it is give time to mature first but somebody is getting to anxious and bit greedy. IMO

[Trik'Stari]

3 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

I am sure if this doesn't do it their next move will. MS is becoming a bit overbearing with the upgrade to Win10 and I openly admit this (being the Windows fan myself) and I understand why they are doing it but for the sake of sanity they are doing it the wrong way. People will adopt Win10 in time as long as it is give time to mature first but somebody is getting to anxious and bit greedy. IMO

I'd be happy to "upgrade" if it weren't for the forced telemetry that doesn't actually turn off when you tell it to, and the forced updates. I'd like to continue to maintain control over my OS to at least some small extent.

I don't care what the content of the data is. If I say turn it off, turn it the fuck off. This is my computer not yours. If you won't comply, then I'll go to Linux just so I don't have to deal with your BS, and use your OS on a separate, gaming only PC.

[Syntaxvgm]

They've already forced me on one computer, and that fucked a ton of shit up, rollback could not fix. (Thankfully I have whole drive images.)

Annoying I'm gonna have to start hand pruning my updates now. I'm just simply not ready for 10 on a couple of my computers. 

Anyway, while I read this and will change my update list, this is dirty, and will cause many issues for non-tech savvy people, like driver issues.