Fury X now equal to 980 ti @1440p and superior @4k

[Prysin]

I'm sorry, but saying GCN 1.2 is more capable than Maxwell is a statement that has less than 0 evidence to back it up. GCN 1.2 is still so shitty, they have to use over 50% SP compute over Maxwell to get the same gaming results.

 

That said. It's very interesting, and I wonder if the issues FIJI has are due to the HBM design, due to GCN 1.2 scaling or a mixture of both. Honestly we will find out later.

 

And like I mentioned earlier, we have yet to see AMD put forth a competitively efficient scaled down version of GCN 1.2 (Tonga is not competitive with Maxwell from a power stand point whatsoever), and I understand that in this generation they really never tried, but to say they will magically be better next time around, when they haven't shown that to be the case yet is rather naive.

Fiji is fucked because it is HEAVILY ROP and TMU limited... it has the compute performance, but it cannot push enough pixels or textures to match its monstrous compute...

If they had given it more ROPs and more TMUs rather then just an absurd amount of SPs, it would most likely beat anything Nvidia could hope to bring on the market.

If they also had split their core setup, so instead of using 4 "channels" and then divide the geometry between these, and instead went with 5 or 6 channels, albeit shorter then the extremely long ones they have atm. Then tesselation performance should have gone up too.

They were probably limited in what they could do with TDP, die area and what-not. However THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY to beat the Titan X. Not only on price, but RAW performance.

Also, GCN as a architecture is WAY stronger then Maxwell.

Kepler was a good architecture, slightly flawed, but good due to its much higher double precision...

For a good idea how strong GCN is when it REALLY matters (pure double precision load), go look at FirePro W9100 vs Quadro M6000/M6200...now think, FirePro W9100 is 2500 USD... the Quadro is 4500 USD...

One should imagine that the best Nvidia can offer would have good double precision (basically flawless calculation)... but it does not. It gets REKT!! sometimes as bad as by 50-80% depending on the application...

Maxwell, as a architecture is ONLY effective because it is DOWNCLOCKED. this is prolly why all of them OC like beasts... they down-clocked the architecture to cut the power...

Effectively selling customers not knowing how to OC or wanting to OC, a shittier product then it COULD have been. It also meant that it wouldnt pressure AMD too much.

Now imagine if they had say... kept the base clock of the 970 Reference model at like 1350-1400 instead of around 1000-1100....

It would have performer ONE TIER better... but i think Nvidia knew that if they raised the bar too much, AMD would actually go all in. Nvidia knows that GCN is a damn strong architecture, they KNOW that if AMD would be forced to release a monster of a GPU or even speed up Arctic Islands, they would be in the dump.

But by just beating the 200 series by mere 10-15%, they knew AMD would cheap out and not spend huge money on an upgrade of their full hardware line. This in turn meant that if AMD did a refresh, like they did, Nvidia would comfortably sit there with as good performance but also that crucial "we are more efficient. We save money on your powerbill" argument

[jaggysnake57]

errr no. aftermarket cards are going to be around the 980 ti lightning, and thats ~15% faster + user OC...for the same price. 

[Khvarrioiren]

for the same price. 

 

This is only true for the US/Canada region though.

[Khajiit Dealer]

This does not take into account overclocking. The 980 Ti is still the best buy for high-end GPU's.

[cragger89]

Not all games, ha.

[jaggysnake57]

This is only true for the US/Canada region though.

 

i dont know about finland but here in the uk AMD tends to be the same price as nvidea 

[TechGod]

i dont know about finland but here in the uk AMD tends to be the same price as nvidea 

In New Zealand, AMD's cards are usually more expensive. Whatever. I'd still rather get an Arctic Islands GPU than a pascal one. 

[TechStyle]

The 980Ti is simply the better buy right now. 

[Nielips]

The 295X2 is still a beast, if you don't care about power. I bet it will be like £400 or maybe lower at black Friday, they went down to £450 last year.

[X99stattrak]

The 295X2 is still a beast, if you don't care about power. I bet it will be like £400 or maybe lower at black Friday, they went down to £450 last year.

I thought about the 295x2 as it is still an absolute monster, and is aio cooled so it was everything I wanted, but I didn't want crossfire issues :-( nothing against amd as i wouldn't want sli either

[Nielips]

I thought about the 295x2 as it is still an absolute monster, and is aio cooled so it was everything I wanted, but I didn't want crossfire issues :-( nothing against amd as i wouldn't want sli either

Yeah, I had two HD7850's in crossfire for a time, and in some games they performed amazing for the price/performance (BF4). I think BF4 is about as good a crossfire scaling as you can get, but in some games it's virtually none existent. I will be staying with my 970 until I upgrade my whole rig towards the end of next year I think.

[ThisIsAlanB]

All other AMD cards also get a sizable performance boost:
 

http://wccftech.com/amd-r9-fury-x-performance-ahead-nvidia-980-ti-latest-drivers/

 

[givingtnt]

cool !

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wccftech >.>   hmmmm...

[TheRandomness]

Yay c: but I don't trust wccf yet.

[reapersivan]

still no better than the titanx

Well it's not in its price range

[Muz]

>wccf

>not following rules of posting in news

[Lethal Seraph]

Good shit, too bad the ship has sailed. It would had sold better when there was hype on launch day. AMD couldn't deliver with limited supply and bad drivers then meanwhile Nvidia released the 980Ti to counter sales. Only worth it if you haven't invested on a 980ti already.

[Clyne]

It's so funny that people don't know that WCCF is just reposting it, same as Linustechtips news section.

Seriously, it's on Techpowerup.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Ti_Lightning/23.html

Might as well say IGN is a bad source because it posts news. 

Seriously, from time to time every company is going to get ahead and whatnot.

[crystal6tak]

All other AMD cards also get a sizable performance boost:

 

http://wccftech.com/amd-r9-fury-x-performance-ahead-nvidia-980-ti-latest-drivers/

Yes... the Fury X with it's beast reference cooler which is about as good as a cooler can get beats a reference 980 Ti at Nvidia's stock clock... Then proceeds to get murdered by a non reference 980 Ti which is what the Fury X is suppose to equal to...

 

And no idea why the OP didn't put up pictures. Here you go:

[Ekin]

It has already been posted a week ago: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/477557-fury-x-now-equal-to-980-ti-1440p-and-superior-4k/
 

[FellTheSky]

Yes... the Fury X with it's beast reference cooler which is about as good as a cooler can get beats a reference 980 Ti at Nvidia's stock clock... Then proceeds to get murdered by a non reference 980 Ti which is what the Fury X is suppose to equal to...

 

And no idea why the OP didn't put up pictures. Here you go:

 

 

Yeah i notice the same thing. A stock reference 980ti, but the "real" 980ti which is the lightening (having a long history of making top class cards) just cleans the floor, and is not even overclocked

[AresKrieger]

Cool story now I ask you who uses reference 980tis

[dizmo]

Eh, it gets crushed by a non reference 980Ti that's not even overclocked. So realistically you can figure it's about 30% slower, and if it's still like it was upon launch really has no overclocking either. Still seems like a fail.

 

 

It has already been posted a week ago: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/477557-fury-x-now-equal-to-980-ti-1440p-and-superior-4k/
 

Did you report the first post?

[Clyne]

Cool story now I ask you who uses reference 980tis

Who wants a non blower card for a multi card configuration....

[X99stattrak]

I have a reference card with a hybrid kit 1485 core +500 memory, and it won't get any warmer than 42C[emoji39]