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950 Pro NVMe SSD Launches 10/29/15 & Reviews

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Sources: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9702/samsung-950-pro-ssd-review-256gb-512gb

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/10/950-pro-review-samsungs-first-pcie-m-2-nvme-ssd-is-an-absolute-monster/

http://hothardware.com/reviews/samsung-ssd-950-pro-m2-review-affordable-ultra-fast-storage

http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-950-pro-m-2-256mb-and-512mb-ssd-review

 

The spiritual successor to the sm951(which had become a phenomena in the SSD space with both it's extreme speeds/value and it's controversial thermal issues) was announced quite a while ago by Samsung, but little information had come out since the announcment even though it had/has a slated Oct '15 release date.

 

The wait appears to be nearly over my friends as the 950 Pro is apparently to hit shelves very shortly with the NDA for the product having just been lifted this morning. The reviews are in, and this thing is a beast!

 

EDIT: By this official Amazon Listing for the 256GB version, the release date will be October 29th. http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-950-256GB-PCIe-NVMe/dp/B01639696U/ref=sr_1_16?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1445546759&sr=1-16&keywords=Samsung+SSD

 

 

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Thermal throttling does not appear to be significant enough in any of Anandtech's "real world-like" test benches take the 950 Pro out of the top spot on each suite, but certain tests indicate thermal throttling in specific applications is a large factor once again.

 

Comparing the graphs of the two 950s shows that the inconsistency of the 512GB drive comes from frequent jumps in performance above a solid baseline. This pattern holds even for the test with overprovisioning. Graphing the power consumption over time (not shown) reveals that the periods of lower performance have lower power. If the lower performance were due to periodic background garbage collection, then we would expect power consumption to be at least as high as when the drive is performing well. Instead, it appears that the 512GB drive is experiencing thermal throttling.

 

Indeed due to other specific thermal throttling behaviors, it is Anandtech's opinion that the CONTROLLER of the PCIe drive, not the 3D-NAND, is experiencing throttling, a perhaps daunting issue for Samsung to remedy.

 

The sequential read performance is probably the best showcase of what the PCIe 3.0 x4 interface can do. The 256GB 950 Pro attains over half of the link speed, but the 512GB is again bogged down by something—relatively speaking, since it's still more than twice the speed of SATA and faster than even the Intel SSD 750. It's possible that the 950 Pro isn't faithfully implementing the secure form of the NVMe format command and some lingering fragmentation is preventing the 512GB drive from performing as specified. Read operations require less power to be supplied to the flash chip than for writes, but if the thermal throttling is all in the controller it could be showing up here as well.

 

 

Overall, they note that even taking into account the rather significant thermal throttling concerns (in particular applications), the drive is nothing short of Class Leading.

 

Testing of the 950 Pro revealed some curiosities. Nevetheless, even when showing symptoms of possible thermal throttling, the 512GB sustained respectable performance and in tests that were representative of interactive use it performed extremely well. Users waiting on a full range of Skylake systems to come to the market may need a PCIe to M.2 adapter in order to put the drive in a slot that provides four lanes at PCIe 3.0 speed, but with the added benefit that such adapters can be bought with heatsinks to reduce the chance of triggering thermal throttling.

 

 

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Other notes...

 

-This drive consumes a fairly high amount of power, even at idle, and is showing buggy support for idle power reduction techniques at this time.

 

-Pricing is as follows from hothardware.com

Samsung has set the MSRPs for the 256GB and 512GB SSD 950 PRO M.2 drives at $199 and $349, respectively, which works out to $.77 and $.68 per gigabyte. 

 

-Official performance and hard spec list below:

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Going to be expensive though 

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Storage devices that thermal throttle. I never thought that I'd see the day.

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Going to be expensive though 

 

From the review.... 

 

"Samsung has set the MSRPs for the 256GB and 512GB SSD 950 PRO M.2 drives at $199 and $349, respectively, which works out to $.77 and $.68 per gigabyte. "

 

That comes out to be about 2x the price of current high quality SATA III drives like the BX100, MX200 and 850 Evo. Not too shabby when you are getting well over 3x the speed.

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Storage devices that thermal throttle. I never thought that I'd see the day.

One day in the past, people thought the same with graphics cards...

 

If only for the controllers and nothing else, we will soon be seeing those with passive heat-sinks (besides the enterprise drives, of which the 750 is one.)

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Wonky random performance. Newegg has them listed but not for sale until December. 

 

As absolutely awesome as these drives and performance numbers are... I play games and browse the web with the occasional encoding. This won't be practical for me for sometime.

 

....but I want it. >.>

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From the review.... 

 

"Samsung has set the MSRPs for the 256GB and 512GB SSD 950 PRO M.2 drives at $199 and $349, respectively, which works out to $.77 and $.68 per gigabyte. "

 

That comes out to be about 2x the price of current high quality SATA III drives like the BX100, MX200 and 850 Evo. Not too shabby when you are getting well over 3x the speed.

But for the average person i dont see a point. The price will probably drop in few month so im going to wait until than and the price would be worth it than. But i want the speed lol.. money or speed.  

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Wonky random performance. Newegg has them listed but not for sale until December. 

 

As absolutely awesome as these drives and performance numbers are... I play games and browse the web with the occasional encoding. This won't be practical for me for sometime.

 

....but I want it. >.>

Yea... Samsung's official notice says and has pretty much always said October 2015, but that is almost over. I am wondering if they just became available for sale to OEM's and system integrators today and general distributors will get them in the next month or two...

 

 

But for the average person i dont see a point. The price will probably drop in few month so im going to wait until than and the price would be worth it than. 

It's a pcie ssd... Of course for the average consumer there isn't a point.... I wouldn't hold your breadth too long on price drops making them worth while, because SATA ssd prices are only going to drop as well (and arguably faster). But hey, one can hope.

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One day in the past, people thought the same with graphics cards...

 

If only for the controllers and nothing else, we will soon be seeing those with passive heat-sinks (besides the enterprise drives, of which the 750 is one.)

I've actually got one of those graphics cards, the ones without any form of cooling. And straight up, if it gets hot, it should be cooled properly, and Samsung don't seem to understand that. On the plus side, there is now a reason to watercool SSD.

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One day in the past, people thought the same with graphics cards...

Hey, you beat me to it.

 

But, dang, that is pretty darn fast!! I want one. O.o

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I've actually got one of those graphics cards, the ones without any form of cooling. And straight up, if it gets hot, it should be cooled properly, and Samsung don't seem to understand that. On the plus side, there is now a reason to watercool SSD.

or just have a chassis fan blow on it.

 

or buy one of these chipset heatsinks

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00637X42A?keywords=chipset%20heatsink&qid=1445548137&ref_=sr_1_5&sr=8-5

 

EDIT: thinkin about it... those brass/copper heatsinks might look a bit tachy, but cool on that black PCB

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or just have a chassis fan blow on it.

 

or buy one of these chipset heatsinks

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00637X42A?keywords=chipset%20heatsink&qid=1445548137&ref_=sr_1_5&sr=8-5

 

EDIT: thinkin about it... those brass/copper heatsinks might look a bit tachy, but cool on that black PCB

All options... Unless you are like me with an awful motherboard m.2 implementation. 

 

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Seriously though, if I ever decide to buy an m.2 ssd, I'll need to mod the shit out of that cover because I won't accept the look of not having the cover on, and I certainly can't deal with the awful heat trapping of the stock design.

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All options... Unless you are like me with an awful motherboard m.2 implementation. 

 

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Seriously though, if I ever decide to buy an m.2 ssd, I'll need to mod the shit out of that cover because I won't accept the look of not having the cover on, and I certainly can't deal with the awful heat trapping of the stock design.

 

 

1 - Get a Dremel/Fein multitool

2 - buy this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LB0M8S?keywords=chipset%20fan&qid=1445549084&ref_=sr_1_2&sr=8-2

alternatively, use these to suck the heat out:

http://www.amazon.com/Vktech-Brushless-Cooling-0-1-0-3A-50x15mm/dp/B00EL938E6/ref=pd_sim_147_8?ie=UTF8&refRID=0EK3VPXA549GNX4TAYV5

 

3 - measure, then measure twice

4 - cut an appropriate opening in the lid, and GLUE the fan in place (dont use metal screws as this lid should be damn close to the PCB underneath

5 - profit

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1 - Get a Dremel/Fein multitool

2 - buy this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LB0M8S?keywords=chipset%20fan&qid=1445549084&ref_=sr_1_2&sr=8-2

alternatively, use these to suck the heat out:

http://www.amazon.com/Vktech-Brushless-Cooling-0-1-0-3A-50x15mm/dp/B00EL938E6/ref=pd_sim_147_8?ie=UTF8&refRID=0EK3VPXA549GNX4TAYV5

 

3 - measure, then measure twice

4 - cut an appropriate opening in the lid, and GLUE the fan in place (dont use metal screws as this lid should be damn close to the PCB underneath

5 - profit

That's one possibility... But hence the general "mod the shit out of the cover"

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I hope they release a 120ish GB version; for $100 then I'll be interested till then I think I'ma get a SM951 reguardless

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I hope they release a 120ish GB version; for $100 then I'll be interested till then I think I'ma get a SM951 reguardless

the SM951 got a firmware update and will run at nearly identical speeds... so i would grab that one if i were you.

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I hope they release a 120ish GB version; for $100 then I'll be interested till then I think I'ma get a SM951 reguardless

You know it won't scale like that right?

 

Even with SATA ssds... 120 GB versions are the least efficient cost per GB in the stack by a huge margin. 

 

You can get a 120 GB BX100 for 62 dollars... The 250 GB version only costs 80 dollars.

You can get a 120 GB 850Evo for 64 dollars... The 250 GB version only costs 85 dollars.

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Am I missing something?

 

The 950 Pro, was listed in Australia over week ago.

Meh idk, the important part of the article was that worldwide NDA ended today, and looks like US release is October 29th (according to the amazon link edit I posted). 

 

As that ETA is 10/30/2015, I think it's the exact same release date overall.

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Since most m.2 slots are positioned between the CPU and the first PCIe slot I think that a down drafting CPU cooler might aid it's cooling, which means a return of those types that are now mostly for "low profile" coolers

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Gah, more measurements in sequential IO...

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Looks nice! Performance is really great, specially random read IOPS :)
 

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Storage devices that thermal throttle. I never thought that I'd see the day.

This is why we have a waterblock for the 750 series intel SSD

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