ISP Announces It's Blocking All Facebook And Google Ads Until Companies Pay A Troll Toll

[jos]

Caribbean and South Pacific ISP Digicel has started blocking Google and Facebook ads from appearing on the company's mobile network in the apparent belief that the service provider is owed a slice of these companies' ad revenues. In a notice posted to the Digicel website:

 

"(Digicel is) deploying ad control technology at the network level on its networks across the globe to ensure a better experience for customers and to encourage the likes of Google, Facebook and Yahoo to help connect the 4.2 billion unconnected people across the globe. Ad control technology benefits both consumers and network operators alike. With ads using up as much as 10% of a customers’ data plan allowance, this move will allow customers to browse the mobile web and apps without interruption from unwanted advertising messages."

 

 Of course, the notice then proceeds to make it clear what this is really about. And that's Digicel and billionaire owner Denis O'Brien's belief that they are owed a cut of content company ad revenue simply because content company traffic touches their network:

 

"Companies like Google, Yahoo and Facebook talk a great game and take a lot of credit when it comes to pushing the idea of broadband for all – but they put no money in. Instead they unashamedly trade off the efforts and investments of network operators like Digicel to make money for themselves. That’s unacceptable, and we as a network operator, are taking a stand against them to force them to put their hands in their pockets and play a real role in improving the opportunities for economic empowerment for the global population.”"

 

 

This is stupid and is against net neutrality.. These ISP has only one thing in mind make money screw others..Just launch google fiber..

Source: https://www.techdirt.com/blog/netneutrality/articles/20151001/06351732404/isp-announces-blocking-all-facebook-google-ads-until-companies-pay-troll-toll.shtml

[minibois]

"Oh look we can make money over there.. Lets do it."

 

I hope Google and Facebook just find a way to block themselves from those ISP's networks. Let the customers speak what they think about this thing.

[Stardar1]

+1 for use of "troll toll"

 

and yeah, they are screwing over those companies, but Google and FaceBook ads are especially anoying, and its not like either company needs more $ from ads

[Enderman]

+1 for use of "troll toll"

 

and yeah, they are screwing over those companies, but Google and FaceBook ads are especially anoying, and its not like either company needs more $ from ads

I earn money from those ads! wtf!

basically an isp from another country wants a cut from my earnings? after google already takes like half?

[christianled59]

inb4 lawsuit

[Ekpyrosis]

inb4 lawsuit

Are there even laws and courts in the Caribbean?

[LAwLz]

-never mind previous post-

 

 

 

Are they allowed to do this? I mean it's not that much different from ad blocking which, as far as I know is perfectly legal. But then again, ISPs and consumers do not follow the exact same laws and regulations.

[Misanthrope]

Troll toll you say?

 

[Arty]

"Oh look we can make money over there.. Lets do it."

 

I hope Google and Facebook just find a way to block themselves from those ISP's networks. Let the customers speak what they think about this thing.

lol google facebook could screw them so hard, and just block all their ips from accessing google and fb

[The_Strict_Nein]

Troll toll you say?

 

 

To get into the boy's hole?

[Trik'Stari]

I feel that this would be okay, if the money to be paid to the ISP's were returned to the customers. After all, it's their data caps that will suffer from loading the ads that no one clicks on.

[Misanthrope]

To get into the boy's hole?

 

I guess if ad sense detects less than legal search terms....

[The_Strict_Nein]

 

I guess if ad sense detects less than legal search terms....

 

[hk29]

I earn money from those ads! wtf!

basically an isp from another country wants a cut from my earnings? after google already takes like half?

wait until google delivers its first car.  it will self drive you to the highest paid advertiser in your city.

[othertomperson]

Fun fact, this was kind of suggested by Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn to the UN. Except they wanted the ISPs to shut down if they didn't block trolls.

Yes, the idiots got invited to the UN to talk about future legislation regarding the Internet.

 

Here is the actual article the UN published regarding it. It calls Anita Sarkeesian a "survivor of cyber violence".

Here is the document.

 

By the way, the sources listed makes me cry by laughter and by disappointment. Here is a summary.

Wanna know how bad it is? A lot of their sources are just blank (as in, there is no source to their claims whatsoever. No link or book or anything) and if that wasn't hilarious enough, one of their sources is literally their C: drive. I am not making that up. On page 57 in the PDF (page number 51 in the document) their source for something is listed as:

 

Oh, and some of the sites they are getting their "facts" from are sites that call Pokemon "the killing game designed for toddlers", and it calls Dungeons and Dragons "the medieval satanic and magic fantasy game".

 

 

 

Kind of off-topic but fairly related.

 

I know it's kind of a sport on this forum to talk about how much you hate Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian at completely irrelevant times, regardless of how much it derails the thread at hand but go on. Do tell me what the ever-loving fuck this has to do with an ISP thinking that they are entitled to Google and Facebook's ad revenue.

[MageTank]

Fun fact, this was kind of suggested by Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn to the UN. Except they wanted the ISPs to shut down if they didn't block trolls.

Yes, the idiots got invited to the UN to talk about future legislation regarding the Internet.

 

Here is the actual article the UN published regarding it. It calls Anita Sarkeesian a "survivor of cyber violence".

Here is the document.

 

By the way, the sources listed makes me cry by laughter and by disappointment. Here is a summary.

Wanna know how bad it is? A lot of their sources are just blank (as in, there is no source to their claims whatsoever. No link or book or anything) and if that wasn't hilarious enough, one of their sources is literally their C: drive. I am not making that up. On page 57 in the PDF (page number 51 in the document) their source for something is listed as:

 

Oh, and some of the sites they are getting their "facts" from are sites that call Pokemon "the killing game designed for toddlers", and it calls Dungeons and Dragons "the medieval satanic and magic fantasy game".

 

 

 

Kind of off-topic but fairly related.

Cyber... violence? Has the definition of violence changed recently? I thought violence implied physical force. Oh well. If the UN wants to take two extremist women, and make rules based off of their opinions, then they can be held accountable for the inevitable backlash they are going to receive by trying to further police the internet. I swear. The more i hear about this cyber "bullying" crap, the more frustrated i get. Turn your computers off if you cannot take criticism. If someone calls you a mean name on the internet, walk away from it. The difference between a cyber "bully" and a real life bully, is that the real life bully can physically harm you, most often in places you have to go to. You do not have to use the internet. 

[LAwLz]

I know it's kind of a sport on this forum to talk about how much you hate Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian at completely irrelevant times, regardless of how much it derails the thread at hand but go on. Do tell me what the ever-loving fuck this has to do with an ISP thinking that they are entitled to Google and Facebook's ad revenue.

Yeah sorry, I misunderstood the article. I thought they wanted Google/Facebook/whatever for their users trolling. Not that it was the ISP "trolling" by wanting to get paid.

Should have read the source more carefully.

[Takata]

Could have done this quietly... Then they'd save bandwidth by not carrying ads, customers are unlikely to complain about their missing ads, and Google and Facebook would have no idea their ads weren't being delivered. Instead, they disclose everything publicly, and suggest that Google should pay them for transporting ads, which obviously isn't going to happen.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Yea... The part about just wanting a cut is pretty lame but the overall idea is quite sound. Regardless of content creators complaints when large scale deployments have seen overall network traffic decrease by as much as 50% due simply to a instream adblocker... Huston, We have a problem.