Nvidia Launching Fastest GeForce Ever

[spartaman64]

But it's obsolete now. Why the hell would anyone buy go out and buy two 290Xs (on one PCB or otherwise) now? It makes as much sense as buying dual 780s or dual 970s. Sure there was a time when it was awesome, but just buy a Fury or a 980 Ti instead now.

 

Also will you people stop putting fucking words in my mouth? I never said it was worse value than a Titan Z, I said it was worse value than two 290Xs.

 

you are paying for the engineering that went into the cards so i dont think amd overcharged while nvidia definitely did

[othertomperson]

you are paying for the engineering that went into the cards so i dont think amd overcharged while nvidia definitely did

 

Any engineering that went into it was done by Asetek and it involved another pump and some tubing. This is not worth £400. Nvidia designed a whole new triple slot air cooler to keep theirs in check. I'm not going to say that they didn't overcharge as well, but a lot more R&D went into Nvidia's solution than AMD's.

[Notional]

The strawman was in misrepresenting my argument as me saying that the Titan was anything but shite value. My point wasn't that the Titan Z was good, but that the 295x2 was bad for the same reason. 1+1=3 applies for AMD and Nvidia alike in these cases. My comparison was always between comparing the value of two Titan Blacks vs one Titan Z, and then separately with comparing two 290Xs with one 295x2. Your strawman was to pretend that I was advocating the Titan Z and then arguing with that position, and not with what I actually said.

 

If I'm short with you, it's because I've said this about five times now.

 

I wasn't straw manning you. What I did was make a comparison between the 295x2 and the Titan Z and arguing that there is a difference (besides half the price). You got less performance per chip at 50% higher price in Titan Z, where as you got more performance per chip and a quieter cooling solution (than the stock 290x cooler at least) in the 295x2 at 50% the price increase. You still have to remember the 295x2 was outperforming the Titan Z at half the price.

 

Again dual GPU cards comes with built in crossfire/SLI chips and needs to be built on a smaller area than a single GPU card. It costs money to make such a product happen, and due to lower sales numbers, your fixed costs needs to be shared on fewer cards resulting in higher costs alone.

 

Dual GPU cards are a niche, and sure it often makes more sense to just buy 2x cards, but not all wants that. We can see on various other cards that adding an AIO adds more than just 30£ or so to the costs, especially with a dual pump system. Remember Asus Ares II? That was a dual 7970 made exactly like the 295x2 (where do you think AMD got the idea from?). Cost an arm and a leg too, even though Asus made all the money (their design and R&D and dual GPU card).

 

Any engineering that went into it was done by Asetek and it involved another pump and some tubing. This is not worth £400. Nvidia designed a whole new triple slot air cooler to keep theirs in check. I'm not going to say that they didn't overcharge as well, but a lot more R&D went into Nvidia's solution than AMD's.

 

The Titan Z was literally a GTX 690 cooler with added thickness. Takes like an hour in 3D software to change that. Their cooler solution sucked and the already underclocked Titan Black cores thermo throttled none the less. AMD might have reused Asetek's solution implemented by Asus in the Ares II, but it's a much more expensive solution than the one on the Titan Z, and it delivered the cooling needed to even OC the cores in a dual slot package.

 

The Titan Z was and is a joke, much more than the 295x2. Had the Titan Z cost 2000$ or less, and used the same AIO solution, then it could have been an awesome card owning the 295x2 and still be kinda worth it.

[SuperCookie78]

if it is two 980's that it will the GTX 990 but if it is two titins then is will be can so wierd name the "looks cool" for marketing teams and have the word titan in it. any body agree?

[don_svetlio]

if it is two 980's that it will the GTX 990 but if it is two titins then is will be can so wierd name the "looks cool" for marketing teams and have the word titan in it. any body agree?

Titan XYZ^TM

[SuperCookie78]

Titan XYZ^TM

lolz..yx

[spartaman64]

Any engineering that went into it was done by Asetek and it involved another pump and some tubing. This is not worth £400. Nvidia designed a whole new triple slot air cooler to keep theirs in check. I'm not going to say that they didn't overcharge as well, but a lot more R&D went into Nvidia's solution than AMD's.

im talking about the pcb layout and its not enough to justify it being 1000 dollars more while amd's was just 300 dollars more according to your numbers

[CTR640]

Lol, nVidia is so high on their horse, they will call it GTX Titanium Troll X

[don_svetlio]

Lol, nVidia is so high on their horse, they will call it GTX Titanium Troll X

because it will consume 600W and produce 500W worth of heat? Ala Thermi days?

[NumLock21]

50 years from now. A future kid just like the age you are today, will be on a forum, creating the same topic title as this one.

[Shnuggle]

50 years from now. A future kid just like the age you are today, will be on a forum, creating the same topic title as this one.

1. I'm not a kid

2. The guidelines encourages the use of the source title

3. What is the point of your post, what discussion are you trying to achieve?

4. My question is a rhetorical one, don't bother answering it.

 

 

To stick to the topic.

I hope Nvidia discloses the suspicions the consumers have about Maxwell DX12 support (Async Compute, and how they will adress it). I assume this will be a Maxwell card.

[VagabondWraith]

I guess the new card is gonna be called the Titan ZX. (If that's to be believed.) Videocardz posted a picture of it (can't do; on mobile.) I'm guessing $2299 - $2499.

[NumLock21]

1. I'm not a kid

2. The guidelines encourages the use of the source title

3. What is the point of your post, what discussion are you trying to achieve?

4. My question is a rhetorical one, don't bother answering it.

To stick to the topic.

I hope Nvidia discloses the suspicions the consumers have about Maxwell DX12 support (Async Compute, and how they will adress it). I assume this will be a Maxwell card.

I'm predicting the future! As long as nvidia is still alive, 50 years from now, some person the same age as us will be on some forum. Creating a topic with the same title. 50 years from now, all of us will be really old. And if your browsing some future forum and came across that topic, you can say hey i remember creating topic too. Lol

On topic, i doubt maxwell is going to fix dx12 performance. Hopefully they do. Pascal is probably when they will fix it.

[linuxfan66]

Its wccf tech any backup elsewhere...

[Shnuggle]

Its wccf tech any backup elsewhere...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61qweU5NzMg

[Shnuggle]

"Why am I even posting this here? Well, there are rumors that NVIDIA held a ‘secret’ meeting where selected members of the press were briefed about new graphics card based on dual-GM200 processor. So far I have not confirmed this information. Either there were shown a very early engineering sample and it’s still days/weeks before it arrives, or it was not true. Either way, the only announcement I’m aware of is GeForce Now on October 1st. Should I learn more, you will be the first to know."

 

Source: http://videocardz.com/57569/nvidia-grid-to-become-geforce-now

[marldorthegreat]

nVidia beating AMD to the punch... AGAIN.

Yeah, They did the same thing last year. The titan x was announced before the r9 295x2. The r9 295x2 DESTROYED the titan x...

[marldorthegreat]

because it will consume 600W and produce 500W worth of heat? Ala Thermi days?

It might not. I think they will get it to 350-375 watts, or less. As the 980ti uses about 230-240 watts, and they will heavily BIN the chips and downclock a bit.

[TheRandomness]

Titan Z^2: Now with 4.75 VRAM per chip! Remember, Dx12 will make VRAM stack.

 

Probably will cost a lot and have a lowish TDP.

[Egad]

So if this card is equal to 2x 980Ti, might as well buy one 980Ti now.  Then later you can decide to upgrade to next gen or buy a second 980Ti at a lower price.  Especially since right now with GM 200 we're all kind of waiting to see exactly how DX12 and async impacts its projected longevity.  

 

If the card works out so that each core is weaker than a 980Ti, it violates the standard of buy the most powerful card now and SLI later.  Not to mention odds are that 2x the weaker card will be much cheaper.  

 

Dual GPU cards aren't really going to get that exciting, aside from people who love doing small builds, until we see quad linked cards provide really significant gains that make it worth considering buying two dual cards and linking them for an overall quad.  

[SmittyShmee]

...the GTX 295 (2 275s?), 590 (2 580s), and 690 (2 680s) are to go off of, then yeah, the 990 (?) will be 2 970s

 

hey guys, don't forget about the Asus MARS! Guys? Guise?...

 

(If you don't recall, it was dual 760s on 1 board)

[Zeruel]

hey guys, don't forget about the Asus MARS! Guys? Guise?...

 

(If you don't recall, it was dual 760s on 1 board)

Nvidia restricts the creation of MARS cards now. Sad really, Asus has made some monster cards in the past.

[don_svetlio]

It might not. I think they will get it to 350-375 watts, or less. As the 980ti uses about 230-240 watts, and they will heavily BIN the chips and downclock a bit.

mate - the 980 Ti uses 300W - the Titan X uses 325W - the 970 uses 220W - please don't use TDP as a reference for power

[don_svetlio]

Nvidia restricts the creation of MARS cards now. Sad really, Asus has made some monster cards in the past.

Asus are the reason NVidia don't allow such stuff - back pre 2006 merge, I believe at some Nvidia GPU launch Asus said "fuck it, let's do our own stuff" and made a dual GPU using the new core and basically nobody gave a shit about the Nvidia card - everyone wanted the dual card so Nvidia started restricting it

[marldorthegreat]

mate - the 980 Ti uses 300W - the Titan X uses 325W - the 970 uses 220W - please don't use TDP as a reference for power

IT doesnt that is full system power usage. And those will be overcloking numbers,