Right to destroy drones coming..

[Real_PhillBert]

Haha.

 

I was just thinking it would probably be quite easy to implement some sort of emergency protocol system into the manufacture of drones, so that emergency aircraft can just emit a signal and cause all drones within 1-2km to land. Instead of training fire and police to shoot drones out of the sky.

 

Safer? absolutely.

 

Easier? I doubt it. Shotguns are wildly commonplace in the US, extremely cheap and drones in emergency areas tend to be staying fairly still recording what is going on. They would be easy targets.

 

FWIW my post was in jest, not a serious suggestion.

[spartaman64]

I do, because some people really need to mature.

i think people who use ad hominems are immature because people are going to disagree with you get used to it

[Murdoch]

Safer? absolutely.

 

Easier? I doubt it. Shotguns are wildly commonplace in the US, extremely cheap and drones in emergency areas tend to be staying fairly still recording what is going on. They would be easy targets.

 

FWIW my post was in jest, not a serious suggestion.

 

Haha, aye I know it was in jest. But in fairness, that's kinda what they mean by "immunity to any emergency responder who damages an unmanned aircraft in the course of firefighting, air ambulance, or search-and-rescue operations.”

 

They're talking about shooting them down, right?

[AlwaysFSX]

i think people who use ad hominems are immature because people are going to disagree with you get used to it

Because that's what makes someone disagree with you.  :rolleyes:

 

No valve to prevent the flame from sucking back up into the tank + not wanting to die a fiery death.

It's easy enough to install one.

[Trik'Stari]

That is so stupid, dangerous and illegal... yet so fun...

 

 

*Inner pyromania intensifies*

Maybe illegal where you live. Technically, in the US, no federal law exists stating that you cannot own or use a flame thrower. Although some states have obviously adopted their own laws against them, as well as potato guns (which is just fucking stupid, it's a potato gun ffs)

[Real_PhillBert]

Haha, aye I know it was in jest. But in fairness, that's kinda what they mean by "immunity to any emergency responder who damages an unmanned aircraft in the course of firefighting, air ambulance, or search-and-rescue operations.”

 

They're talking about shooting them down, right?

 

From what I understand, yes. I have seen a video of firefighters shooting down a drone with a fire hose though, so a shotgun is probably not exactly what they had in mind. 

[Ruostunut kokis]

Maybe illegal where you live. Technically, in the US, no federal law exists stating that you cannot own or use a flame thrower. Although some states have obviously adopted their own laws against them, as well as potato guns (which is just fucking stupid, it's a potato gun ffs)

I don't actually know if this is illegal where I am (probably is, but most people would do it in remote areas, like cottages and such... "It's not a crime if you don't get caught" and all... :lol: ), but safety is questionable.

 

Still though, looks fun.

[Jerakl]

No valve to prevent the flame from sucking back up into the tank + not wanting to die a fiery death.

Why not?

 

If you're going to die might as well do it in a blaze of glory.

Or stupidity.

[dalekphalm]

 

You were saying? That is a S1000+ carrying a RED Epic, which can be fitted and controlled with whatever long range zoom lens you care to mount onto it. The S1000 itself has a range of...a lot...and is exceptionally stable. It too can hover at helicopter ranges to get footage.

 

So all this "DAE DEATH TO DRONES" hysteria is pretty pathetic and sad. A lot of misinformed people using it as a chance to strike down against most users who have the common sense not to fly over populated areas and highways in the first place.

I'm not exactly sure what your point is? People that fly drones safely, with like $10,000 camera rigs, far away from the action, aren't the problem. Firefighters are not just going to whip out a shotgun and blow your drone out of the sky randomly for no reason.

 

Your post doesn't seem to have any relevant point. Perhaps you can clarify?

 

The ONLY point of this legislation is to be able to disable or destroy drones that are interfering with an emergency situation. Those drone pilots are directly risking people's lives. If you're keeping your drone at a safe distance, then there is no risk.

[Curufinwe_wins]

How much you want to bet at least half of those drones were news stations...

[SansVarnic]

last year this guy parked in a firehydrant and a fire brokeout in the building across the street. firefighters came and just broke both windows on the car (driver & passanger) and ran the hoes through the car to plug it into the hydrant. needless to say, firefighters were in the right. they even attempted to call a towtruck and they gave him a 15mins wait time. 15mins is enough for that fire to spread into neighboring business' and apartments.

 

so, I support this.

In Iowa firemen don't bother to break windows or wait for a tow, they just plow the vehicle out of the way with their Firetruck. Vehicle owner gets a fine and has to replace the vehicle him/herself. That is what they get for parking in a red zone.

 

*edit - they will even do it to police cars. (video was not taken in Iowa)

[SansVarnic]

Basic question here. I think people should be able to destroy drones if they impede public services / endanger lives / or are on someone's property, but how can you even "destroy a drone" safely?

 

You take the gun route? Drones are in the air, your bullets fly into the air. Unless you're a marksman using a single shot rifle and hit it with one round, people are going to miss, and those bullets are going to keep traveling until they land.

Falling rounds are not lethal, been proven many times. They fall at the same rate anything else does, the fact they are fired from a gun makes no difference. Same myth that a penny will kill you if dropped from a building.

 

Also most shotguns have a 150-200 ft range that the round or pellets are lethal, falling rounds from a shotgun wont hurt anyone falling back down after being shot as the round cant travel high enough up to hit terminal velocity during the fall.

 

Falling penny -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R_5rpXW7RE

Falling bullets -

[SansVarnic]

um im hoping its less radioactive than the waste from nuclear reactors

Its called 'depleted' for a reason.

[jos]

Even rocks give away radiation

[Ruostunut kokis]

Even rocks give away radiation

Even humans give away ionizing radiation. The numbers are so small though, that people should not care about it.

 

And it's unfortunate how so many people think that electromagnetic radiation is nothing but ionizing radiation (which is only röntgen and gamma radiations, and a portion of ultraviolet radiation). I'm not saying you do, but it gets old when people forget (or don't realize) that there is non-ionizing radiation too, like visible light, infrared etc., and that too much of anything is dangerous / fatal.

 

Not sure if we should thank fear mongering news or lack of basic physics education for that generalization (that "all radiation is bad"), possibly the former.

[ItsGinger35]

That's disrupting people's work and an emergency, preventing it from being dealt with. The fire could have been stopped sooner, I think that's appropriate.

[cesrai]

Banana people banana.

[lufihengr]

u just know that there will be that one guy that gonna armor plate his drone just to see what happens

 

wouldnt a better idea be a directional jammer (2.4ghz) which is a wifi signal

Most "drones" (rc multirotors) have a failsafe with gps built in so it won't immediately take it down, it will usually fly back to where it took off. So that would be a non violent way to make them fly away. I think that would be a good idea, then you could see who was flying it and give them a fine.

[qwertywarrior]

Most "drones" (rc multirotors) have a failsafe with gps built in so it won't immediately take it down, it will usually fly back to where it took off. So that would be a non violent way to make them fly away. I think that would be a good idea, then you could see who was flying it and give them a fine.

yeah i know which make it a GREAT idea

[DigitalHermit]

[Ruostunut kokis]

There is no kill like overkill... :lol:

[ManWithBeard1990]

Most drones can fly home automatically, right? Can't there be a standardised system that activates this when an emergency aircraft gets in range? I mean, if it becomes necessary to destroy a drone, then by all means do, but they're not exactly cheap and I wouldn't want to be the guy who destroyed the drone that then fell on someone's head.

[NumLock21]

I can't tell if this is real, or if its a Photoshop. because it's amazing but very concerning at the same time.

That pricing

[lufihengr]

Most drones can fly home automatically, right? Can't there be a standardised system that activates this when an emergency aircraft gets in range? I mean, if it becomes necessary to destroy a drone, then by all means do, but they're not exactly cheap and I wouldn't want to be the guy who destroyed the drone that then fell on someone's head.

Bruce from RCModelReviews is apparently developing a collision avoidance system for RC's. Shame that his local Aviation authority doesn't let him fly at his airfield slowing his development

[dalekphalm]

Most drones can fly home automatically, right? Can't there be a standardised system that activates this when an emergency aircraft gets in range? I mean, if it becomes necessary to destroy a drone, then by all means do, but they're not exactly cheap and I wouldn't want to be the guy who destroyed the drone that then fell on someone's head.

That will work for an off the shelf drone with no modifications, but many drone enthusiasts spend quite a bit of money on custom Flight Controllers, and many other things.

 

Jamming the signal might work, forcing a "Return to Home". Or it might just go into Hover mode. Or it might just lose control and smash into the ground (which gets it out of the way, but in a totally uncontrolled manner).

 

Not to mention that this would mean outfitting every Police/Fire/Ambulance service in the country out with Wireless Signal Jammers. Who the hell's gonna pay for that? These people can already get easy and quick access to a gun.