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Yep, I'm asking. After some great information given to me from a thread about how bad amd is, I'm wondering how these two compare. Anyone that has owned either of these two cpus for an opinion? I would be willing to buy the 4160 or 4130 if the g3258 is not good enough to at least play the latest titles at fair settings (1080p medium graphics) without bottlenecking a GPU.

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Both are a poor choice for gaming.

If you have the money for an FX 8350; go for the i5 4440.

If that's too much: i3 4160.

 

FX 8350 is just bad and Pentium bottlenecks the R9 270 and better

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i3 is the one you want. pentium can't play some games because of hard 4 thread locks.

 

 

Both are a poor choice for gaming.

If you have the money for an FX 8350; go for the i5 4440.

If that's too much: i3 4160.

 

FX 8350 is just bad and Pentium bottlenecks the R9 270 and better

also this, if you can afford 8350 you can afford i5 4460, which is straight up better.

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Yep, I'm asking. After some great information given to me from a thread about how bad amd is, I'm wondering how these two compare. Anyone that has owned either of these two cpus for an opinion? I would be willing to buy the 4160 or 4130 if the g3258 is not good enough to at least play the latest titles at fair settings (1080p medium graphics) without bottlenecking a GPU.

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i5 4460/ 4440 is better than both for about the price of the 8350.

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Yep, I'm asking. After some great information given to me from a thread about how bad amd is, I'm wondering how these two compare. Anyone that has owned either of these two cpus for an opinion? I would be willing to buy the 4160 or 4130 if the g3258 is not good enough to at least play the latest titles at fair settings (1080p medium graphics) without bottlenecking a GPU.

PCPER made a very good test on this:

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i5 takes it by a mile, expected  :lol:

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Thanks for the advice guys! Also, I just started looking into Intel yesterday, with the i3 hyper threading does that mean windows will recognize the 2 core i3 as a 4 core? So I would be able to boot 4 core required games with no hacks?

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Yep, I'm asking. After some great information given to me from a thread about how bad amd is, I'm wondering how these two compare. Anyone that has owned either of these two cpus for an opinion? I would be willing to buy the 4160 or 4130 if the g3258 is not good enough to at least play the latest titles at fair settings (1080p medium graphics) without bottlenecking a GPU.

The AMD FX series mobos are still on PCIe 2.0 and it should be able to boot 4 core games :)

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Thanks for the advice guys! Also, I just started looking into Intel yesterday, with the i3 hyper threading does that mean windows will recognize the 2 core i3 as a 4 core? So I would be able to boot 4 core required games with no hacks?

Yup, it'll see the four threads and should work with games like Inquisition and FC4 just fine.

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i5 takes it by a mile, expected  :lol:

 

wow that was a great read, however I'm a little confused by the i5 coming up above the 4790k in so many benchmarks?  I'm a little ignorant but would love to be filled in.  I read something about hyperthreading providing worse results in certain tasks than a standard 4 core

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If you can afford an FX8, you can afford an i5, which is what you want for a gaming build.

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YOOOO what is this comparison?

 

Just money-wise, these two don't even really compare whatsoever.

 

Please try to compare performance between two products that are more closer in price.

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i5-4460/cheap H97 motherboard...done.

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wow that was a great read, however I'm a little confused by the i5 coming up above the 4790k in so many benchmarks?  I'm a little ignorant but would love to be filled in.  I read something about hyperthreading providing worse results in certain tasks than a standard 4 core

 

The i7-4790k can oly show it's power in multi GPU setups. And yes, depending on the workload HT can slow the system down.

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The i7-4790k can oly show it's power in multi GPU setups. And yes, depending on the workload HT can slow the system down.

huh, I didn't know that a 4 core 3.3ghz could ever out perform a newer, higher end 4 core 4.4.  I knew the i7 wouldn't be "better" for gaming but I didn't figure that it would get beaten by something like that.  price/performance definitely!  but just performance surprises me a bit.  So much to learn. 

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huh, I didn't know that a 4 core 3.3ghz could ever out perform a newer, higher end 4 core 4.4. I knew the i7 wouldn't be "better" for gaming but I didn't figure that it would get beaten by something like that. price/performance definitely! but just performance surprises me a bit. So much to learn.

A 4 core HT with 4.4 GHz is a more like a 8 core with 2.2 GHz and less memory bandwith since two cores share the same memory interface. The only advantage is the shorter pipeline. This helps a lot in certain workloads, but not all.

And I know it only haves 4 physikal cores :)

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You cant compare these, they are for way different PC uses... and comparing these would be like comparing an apple to an orange.

Wanting to compare these just shows a lack of funds... /wait until you have more money, get an i5 for Gaming, and an i5 for Gaming/Rendering :P

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A 4 core HT with 4.4 GHz is a more like a 8 core with 2.2 GHz and less memory bandwith since two cores share the same memory interface. The only advantage is the shorter pipeline. This helps a lot in certain workloads, but not all.

And I know it only haves 4 physikal cores :)

Oh i wasn't meaning to inform you, Just kinda putting it out there. :) you're one of the smartest guys i don't know

That's good to know about the ht. I have been experimenting tonight with ht on and off in a few benchmarks but havent gotten far.

Would turning ht off in bios on the i7 maybe eliminate this advantage the i5 has in the benchmarks?

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Both are a poor choice for gaming.

If you have the money for an FX 8350; go for the i5 4440.

If that's too much: i3 4160.

 

FX 8350 is just bad and Pentium bottlenecks the R9 270 and better

"Both are poor choices for gaming." The pentium is one of the best budget CPU's out there and deals way above its weight class. You must be a stranger around Linus Tech Tips because he's talked so much about the pentium. He's done MULTIPLE benchmarks with the G3258 and compared it to other CPU's including the 5960X. Not only that, he used a GTX 970 with the pentium as well, which didn't bottleneck it at all.

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"Both are poor choices for gaming." The pentium is one of the best budget CPU's out there and deals way above its weight class. You must be a stranger around Linus Tech Tips because he's talked so much about the pentium. He's done MULTIPLE benchmarks with the G3258 and compared it to other CPU's including the 5960X. Not only that, he used a GTX 970 with the pentium as well, which didn't bottleneck it at all.

 

It is not one of the best budget CPU's. All the Pentiums the reviewers got were sooo binned, meaning they overclocked a lot better than the ones which regular consumers would get.

 

The Pentium is a dual core, which now bottlenecks a lot of GPU's because games run just so much better in 4 Threads. This causes the Pentium to bottleneck a lot.

 

Well let me just provide some actual proof after my claims:

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I would include a Far Cry 4 benchmark, but that doesn't run on dual cores. What a shame.

These benchmarks are all benchmarks with the GTX 980, because you mentioned it wouldn't bottleneck a GTX 970 and an overclocked GTX 970 gets fairly close to the GTX 980.

 

I hope I have opened your eyes a little bit and you will look up benchmarks first before calling people "an idiot" and saying they are "a stranger around Linus Tech Tips"

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And another i5 4440 the same as mine beating the FX 9590 like a boss.

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"Both are poor choices for gaming." The pentium is one of the best budget CPU's out there and deals way above its weight class. You must be a stranger around Linus Tech Tips because he's talked so much about the pentium. He's done MULTIPLE benchmarks with the G3258 and compared it to other CPU's including the 5960X. Not only that, he used a GTX 970 with the pentium as well, which didn't bottleneck it at all.

Check some frame time graphs.

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Oh i wasn't meaning to inform you, Just kinda putting it out there. :) you're one of the smartest guys i don't know

That's good to know about the ht. I have been experimenting tonight with ht on and off in a few benchmarks but havent gotten far.

Would turning ht off in bios on the i7 maybe eliminate this advantage the i5 has in the benchmarks?

Haha, thx for the compliment. :)

Yes turning HT off would probably improve the performance in gaming. However on other applications, or running lots of applications at zhe same time, HT can improve the performance ~20%.

But if you only use the i7-4790k for gaming, why did you bougth this CPU?

As I guess you don't reboot to turn HT on after gaming. So you will loose over all performance.

Just leave it on, a lot of very smart engineers have optimized this feature for years. There is a benefit...

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