New HP gaming PCs released

[othertomperson]

In the last couple of days HP released the updated versions of all of their desktop hardware and actually I'm quite impressed.

 

http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/offer.aspx?p=c-hp-envy-desktop

 

 

£999 gets you a HP Envy in, imo, a good looking brushed aluminium case, an i7 4790, its GPU is an R9 370 which to my knowledge hasn't even been officially announced yet (is it a rebrand of the already rebranded R9 270X? Is it a Tonga GPU? Who knows)

 

http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/offer.aspx?p=c-envy-phoenix

 

 

Stepping up to £1699 gets you a similar case, this time in black with some not too ott red LED lighting at the front. Clear ventilation all around, too, which is nice to see. As for specs, your £1699 is buying an i7-4790k pre-overclocked, a GTX 980, 32GB DDR3 memory, a 128GB SSD and an AIO liquid cooler.

 

Wow. Personally I think this is incredible from a company like HP. For context, a comparable Alienware PC, which is the direct competition here, with the same processor, a GTX 970, half the RAM will set you back £2928.99.

[Guest Kloaked]

i lik dis luk

 

 

If I could get ahold of this case without the HP logo, I'd buy it.

[Tagiau]

I remember when dell made good looking gaming computers. I couldn't say the same for hp until I saw this.

[WelshDdraig]

My brother owns the previous envy, his has a i7 4770, 16GB Ram and a R9 270. and for the price, its fairly good. Its a really good bargain and apart from me having a GTX 970 and him a R9 270, it holds its weight against my system. Sure, you could build something cheaper, but if you want it pre-built, honestly, the HP Envy is not a bad option.  

[Damikiller37]

I dig the case aesthetics. Not too bad coming from HP. Then the price... yeah...

[Guest]

I'm more concerned about what do they do regarding the airflow inside the case. I've had too many experiences where OEM cases of pre-built rigs just have a 92mm fan at the rear and that's it as far as airflow goes.

[Kherm]

if someone refused to build a PC, I'd actually feel good recommending them this.

[ivan134]

If only other companies would price their gaming PCs this well. That 1st PC is still garbage though. I wish they would stop that kind CPU/GPU pairing.

[jbslayer]

Yeah.. the specs don't justify the price, I would recommend an iBuyPower over this for someone who wants a prebuilt

[Vrbas]

Be even better if they let you customize whats in it. Example maybe drop it from 32GB RAM to 16GB or even 8GB for more SSD storage space.

[othertomperson]

I dig the case aesthetics. Not too bad coming from HP. Then the price... yeah...

 

£250 for the 4790k, £100 for the motherboard that can overclock it, £400 for the GTX 980, another £300 for 32GB DDR3, an AIO, you're already looking at over £1100. The price is not bad at all -- but of course you would be saving money by cutting down on the RAM since you won't be needing it, and downgrading to an i5, but spec for spec this price is not shabby at all.

 

You could also buy the HP Envy, buy a GTX 980, replace the 370 and save £300 that way.

 

 

If only other companies would price their gaming PCs this well. That 1st PC is still garbage though. I wish they would stop that kind CPU/GPU pairing.

 

The Envy (unlike the Phoenix) is not being marketed as a gaming PC like the Envy Phoenix. 16GB and an i7 with a GPU that can also game is a more sensible way of looking at it.

 

Edit: I'm aware I called it one. I am lazy

[Damikiller37]

£250 for the 4790k, £100 for the motherboard that can overclock it, £400 for the GTX 980, another £300 for 32GB DDR3, an AIO, you're already looking at over £1100. The price is not bad at all -- but of course you would be saving money by cutting down on the RAM since you won't be needing it, and downgrading to an i5, but spec for spec this price is not shabby at all.

 

You could also buy the HP Envy, buy a GTX 980, replace the 370 and save £300 that way.

 

 

 

The Envy (unlike the Phoenix) is not being marketed as a gaming PC like the Envy Phoenix. 16GB and an i7 with a GPU that can also game is a more sensible way of looking at it.

I take back what I said about the price a little. I looked up how much you would have to pay for a system such as this one and this is what I came up with if you were to build the Phoenix:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£249.95 @ Aria PC)

CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i GT 113.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£99.98 @ Novatech)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-GAMING 7 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£124.00 @ Aria PC)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  (£173.50 @ More Computers)

Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£45.99 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£74.99 @ Aria PC)

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  (£409.99 @ Aria PC)

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£79.87 @ CCL Computers)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£46.86 @ Aria PC)

Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer  (£9.96 @ Aria PC)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit)  (£75.34 @ CCL Computers)

Total: £1390.43

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-10 23:27 BST+0100

 

You would save a fair bit but then again it's not a bad price for a pre-build made by a company such as HP. Compared to other companies it's actually not too bad.

[Maslofski]

what is it with these pc prebuilders and their massive ram they really just want to push them numbers

[DesangaX]

Case is nice looking. Specs on the upper models aren't awful, good work hp.

[d3sl91]

As per usual I would be concerned about this:

 

1. Quality of motherboard and Powersupply.

2. Proprietary crap inside. 

3. Actual cooling performance. 

[CapricaBuccaneers]

That price for the second spec is way off - my entire build in my profile costs less than £1700 all new and that included a monitor, kb/m and a windows copy that wasn't oem so I could transfer it once I needed to upgrade Mobo. (830 SSD was leftover from other parts). It only comes with an 500 watt PSU so you're not looking good for upgrades either.

So 4790k £221.94 http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Intel+Core+i7-4790K+4.00GHz+%28Devil%27s+Canyon%29+Socket+LGA1150+Processor+?productId=60941

Corsair vengeance 2x8gb £89.99 (x2) http://www.amazon.co.uk/367/dp/B0085IWXB8/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1433977899&sr=1-1&keywords=corsair+vengeance+16gb

Windows 8.1 £74.31 (full not oem) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-Windows-8-1-Full-Version/dp/B00FRAE7MU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433978141&sr=8-1&keywords=windows+8.1

GeForce Gtx 980 £389.98 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Palit-GeForce-Jetstream-Graphics-Express/dp/B00O9EVSO0/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1433978419&sr=8-6&keywords=GeForce+gtx+980

MSi z97 gaming 3 motherboard £82.94 http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-Z97-Gaming-LGA1150-Motherboard/dp/B00K8KJ6Y8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1433978279&sr=8-2&keywords=Z97+motherboard

Evga 750 B2 PSU £72.40 http://www.ebuyer.com/660111-evga-supernova-750w-semi-modular-80-bronze-power-supply-110-b2-0750-vr

Fractal Define S case £62.56 http://www.ebuyer.com/712107-fractal-design-define-s-computer-chassis-fd-ca-def-s-bk

Corsair H100i GTX £93.84 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CW-9060021-WW-Extreme-Performance-Liquid/dp/B00SV7IEJI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433978976&sr=8-1&keywords=corsair+h100i

Samsung 850 Pro 256 Gb £109 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-256GB-Solid-State-Drive/dp/B00LMXBOP4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433979233&sr=8-1&keywords=Samsung+850+pro

That's £1286.95 (and I'm damn sure the SSD, aio and PSU in my build are better, and I prefer the case) where's the extra £412 price markup coming from? I just picked random shit off 3 websites, I'm sure I can do better given more time.

[RagnarokDel]

man honestly when will they learn? a I7 with a shitty graphic card? (Let's be honest, if 300 series are all rebrands, that means the R9 370 is going to be a 7870 rebrand, jesus christ.)

 

Get a 4690k or 6600k in there and put at least a 380 or 390 with the saved money.

[Albatross]

That's a nice looking case!

 

Should be nice enough for those who do not trust themselves to  build their own/have the time to and those who do not care about price tags...

[Techhog]

The 370 in here is a 265 rebrand. This is confirmed by AMD's OEM graphics card site.

[That Norwegian Guy]

Just be aware that the PSU will be some kind of bullshit proprietary form factor, the motherboard will be riveted to a non-reusable motherboard tray with easily broken plastic plugs, it'll have like two über-shitlord 92mm fans that will sing you the most nasal song of anyone's people, and it will be bottlenecked and misconfigured with non-matching CPUs and GPUs because that's just their style.

 

NEVER BUY DELL OR HP

[JAKEBAB]

I'd probably build in this if i could just buy the case although ill wait until i see inside to make a final decision.

[Dezz]

Phoenix case looks nice 

[Nowak]

The cases sure look wicked nice. But the question is, do they perform as well as they look? I'm interested to see that.

[linuxfan66]

You do realise prebuilt companies have the right to profit margin right. I have seen way worse profit margins...apple(and I like their products still)

[zMeul]

R9 370 which to my knowledge hasn't even been officially announced yet

oh, it's quite official: http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/83011-amd-lists-radeon-r9-380-r9-370-r9-360-oem-card-specs/