GTX 980ti really that good value

[XxDeadpool67xX]

So with the new realease of the 980ti I was super excited and then I looked at AMD side and remembered that they have an R9 295x2 which has 2gb more of vRAM and is cheaper. So I looked up benchmarks and saw the r9 295x2 beating it. http://www.anandtech.com/show/9306/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-review/13so I was wondering why is everyone so hyped up and saying AMD is in a bad spot the only perks of the 980ti is see is better power savings and less heat output and more optimised titles and from what I've heard better drivers yet for the amount your saving $25-$75 taking the free games into a count doesn't seem worth it to me.

[Guest Kloaked]

Like I told you in the other thread, the 295x2:

 

• has worse frame times
• has to have more heat dissipated in comparison
• requires an AIO
• is a dual GPU card which is why there are issues like I mentioned above

[AlwaysFSX]

980 Ti has more vram because it's a single gpu and doesn't have to deal with CrossFire problems.

[itachipirate]

But... AMD bad Nvidia for life?... Right? AMD = bad, can't game on AMD? I thought AMD was garbage from everything I constantly hear from everyone about them

[TheSLSAMG]

The 295x2 also consumes 500W+ and not all games properly support CFX or SLI. And considering how close it is to a 295x2 or dual GTX 970s, it's pretty impressive that a new single card can keep up with two of the lower tier. And AMD aren't in the best spot, they haven't been for a while. Their GPU game is strong, but the GPU side only won't keep them alive.

[Glenwing]

So with the new realease of the 980ti I was super excited and then I looked at AMD side and remembered that they have an R9 295x2 which has 2gb more of vRAM and is cheaper. So I looked up benchmarks and saw the r9 295x2 beating it. http://www.anandtech.com/show/9306/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-review/13so I was wondering why is everyone so hyped up and saying AMD is in a bad spot the only perks of the 980ti is see is better power savings and less heat output and more optimised titles and from what I've heard better drivers yet for the amount your saving $25-$75 taking the free games into a count doesn't seem worth it to me.

 

The R9 295X2 is dual GPU. So every time you see "R9 295X2" just replace it with "dual R9 290X", and throw in dual GTX 970s into the mix while you're at it, at $300-350 it's about the same price bracket as the 980 Ti. Don't let the whole "single card" thing fool you. Consider it in EXACTLY the same way as you would consider the argument if we were talking about two lower cards in CrossFire vs a single stronger one, that's literally what this comparison is.

[Embattled]

Think of it this way, the 980ti is a $650 Titan X.

[itachipirate]

 

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• is a dual GPU card which is why there are issues like I mentioned above

 

Maybe with the changes coming to how Crossfire works with DX12 will also help out dual GPUs. I'm hyped to see how well Crossfire setups perform after. Split frame rendering and being able to utilize both cards' memory is going to be interesting to see working

 

But still it's just like SLIing two 970s and comparing it to the GTX 980 ti

[Glenwing]

Think of it this way, the 980ti is a $650 Titan X.

 

No... the TITAN X is a $1000 GTX 980 Ti. The 980 Ti isn't a good value, it's that the TITAN X is way overpriced. But if the 980 Ti seems like a good value to you then I guess NVIDIA's marketing plan is working. Release something incredibly overpriced, then lower the price and it will look like a good value. That's basically what they've done, just a marketing 101 trick  apparently still effective though...

[Guest Kloaked]

Maybe with the changes coming to how Crossfire works with DX12 will also help out dual GPUs. I'm hyped to see how well Crossfire setups perform after. Split frame rendering and being able to utilize both cards' memory is going to be interesting to see working

 

But still it's just like SLIing two 970s and comparing it to the GTX 980 ti

 

I expect frame times to be way better in Dx12 titles with Crossfire and SLI, as well as just performance scaling in general as well.

[XxDeadpool67xX]

The R9 295X2 is dual GPU. So every time you see "R9 295X2" just replace it with "dual R9 290X", and throw in dual GTX 970s into the mix while you're at it, at $300-350 it's about the same price bracket as the 980 Ti. Don't let the whole "single card" thing fool you. Consider it in EXACTLY the same way as you would consider the argument if we were talking about two lower cards in CrossFire vs a single stronger one, that's literally what this comparison is.

Ahh so pretty much you don't have to deal with sli or crossfire problems. Well that makes sense. Besides Minecraft what games have Sli or Crossfire issues

[blackadder]

Its value at 4k today, in a years time the x70 line will be close to it. So kinda. At this price point value is a misnomer.

[brokencross]

I'd go for the 980Ti right now, honestly.

But then again I'm waiting on Fury.

[itachipirate]

I expect frame times to be way better in Dx12 titles with Crossfire and SLI, as well as just performance scaling in general as well.

I hope so too. As of right now it's really cost-inefficient to SLI or Crossfire GPUs because the scaling is so bad. 4-way SLI provides almost nothing over 3-way SLI

Ahh so pretty much you don't have to deal with sli or crossfire problems. Well that makes sense. Besides Minecraft what games have Sli or Crossfire issues

AFAIK you still get most of the crossfire problems with dual-gpu cards

[XxDeadpool67xX]

AFAIK you still get most of the crossfire problems with dual-gpu cards

If its like that then AAA games don't have good or don't support sli/crossfire.

[FireofDestruction]

look here dude i have 2 r9 290s and while a scaled down version of the r9 290x they are power hungry cards and not only that they also produce a lot of heat in a very short amount of time(great for winter days believe me just turn on your pc and wait awhile for your room to be toasty) Nvidias cards run cooler than amd's cards however, when amd says 4GB of vram they mean 4GB (shots fired)

[Deli]

Think of it this way, the 980ti is a $650 Titan X.

Or the Titan X is a $1,000 GTX980 Ti.

[Embattled]

No... the TITAN X is a $1000 GTX 980 Ti. The 980 Ti isn't a good value, it's that the TITAN X is way overpriced. But if the 980 Ti seems like a good value to you then I guess NVIDIA's marketing plan is working. Release something incredibly overpriced, then lower the price and it will look like a good value. That's basically what they've done, just a marketing 101 trick  apparently still effective though...

Ik about Nvidia's marketing ploy I was just trying to put it in perspective in terms of performance

[Unlikelyjoker]

Makes the 980 a stupid choice and a massive FU to Titan X buyers.

[maizenblue]

The R9 295X2 is dual GPU. So every time you see "R9 295X2" just replace it with "dual R9 290X", and throw in dual GTX 970s into the mix while you're at it, at $300-350 it's about the same price bracket as the 980 Ti. Don't let the whole "single card" thing fool you. Consider it in EXACTLY the same way as you would consider the argument if we were talking about two lower cards in CrossFire vs a single stronger one, that's literally what this comparison is.

There is one difference.

 

The 295x2 comes with a warrantied pre installed liquid cooling set up that keeps the card cooler than any air cooled SLI/crossfire set up and expels it outside of your case. Which is why Im confused over why people keep bringing up heat as a criticism of the 295x2. If anything temperatures are its strong point. Power draw admittedly sucks, but heat is a non issue.

[XxDeadpool67xX]

Makes the 980 a stupid choice and a massive FU to Titan X buyers.

Well at least TitanX  buyers say I got 2x as much vRAM and I run 2-5 more fps OOTB

[FireofDestruction]

There is one difference.

 

The 295x2 comes with a warrantied pre installed liquid cooling set up that keeps the card cooler than any air cooled SLI/crossfire set up and expels it outside of your case. Which is why Im confused over why people keep bringing up heat as a criticism of the 295x2. If anything temperatures are its strong point. Power draw admittedly sucks, but heat is a non issue.

sure the gpu temps are fine but it being liquid cooled means its going to be kicking more heat into the space your in not sure about how your living but my room is small something like 13x13 sq ft when a card like this is on in a room this small things tend to heat up to the 70-80 degree range which is lovely in the winter not so in blazing summer heat

[Unlikelyjoker]

Well at least TitanX  buyers say I got 2x as much vRAM and I run 2-5 more fps OOTB

I guess your right.

Well worth the extra 400

[XxDeadpool67xX]

sure the gpu temps are fine but it being liquid cooled means its going to be kicking more heat into the space your in not sure about how your living but my room is small something like 13x13 sq ft when a card like this is on in a room this small things tend to heat up to the 70-80 degree range which is lovely in the winter not so in blazing summer heat

Is it worth $45 counting the free games for 850w barely being enough and turning your room into a fireplace I guess this card is a beast. AMD is in a rough spot.

[sgloux3470]

 

Like I told you in the other thread, the 295x2:

 

• has worse frame times
• has to have more heat dissipated in comparison
• requires an AIO
• is a dual GPU card which is why there are issues like I mentioned above

 

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/powercolor-devil-13-dual-amd-r9-290x-review,3853.html

 

 

You're right about frametimes and dual GPU though.  But the former is negligible for most people.