PC myth : swaping out the Cpu and the motherboard will '' Kill'' youre OS

[Ridska]

Ridska here ,

 

As a little boy my father (who used to fiddle with PC's at his time )

told me that if you try to upgread youre motherboard and youre cpu , youre opirating system would be sees to exsist .

as a little boy i belived him .know at what time line of my life he told me but i am certen that he did tell me that .

 

  because he is my father after all. and when youre a little kid , who do you trust the most ?! The homeless man across the street or youre mother and father ?

 

So fast forward, im here , ( im 18 Btw )

and i still belive this BUT..

That doesnt mean i had my doughts about it .

Any thing is possible to a carten extent ( or at least thats what i belive )

 

So Linus Tech Tips Forums , will you be the myth busters of tech for this day ?

 

Thanks and as always , Stay groovie

[C0LL0SS0S]

I don't think this is real, since test benches would die out. I think you have to revalidate though

[qwertywarrior]

well kinda true

during the 775 mobo era if u upgrade your mobo to a newer one with a different (newer) south bridge it would refuse to boot

 

but all i had to do was to put the win7 disk in the pc and repair the boot loader ( or what ever it called)

 

 

might still be the case now

[zappian]

HMM when i upgraded from phenom to lga 1150 it corrupted my OS installation , had to format lol.

Drivers stopped working and programs stopped working.

[Goldensapling]

OEM OS does die with a motherboard swap. With a bit of tinkering you can have an interchangeable OS though.

[Trik'Stari]

I have always been told that you have to reinstall when you swap them out because of drivers.

[Altecice]

This was more the case back in ye'olde days of Windows XP and below. Swapping out major parts of your computer would cause a BSOD on start up with something along the lines of 'HAL.EXE blah blah blah' Now the thing to note about HAL ( Hardware Abstraction Layer ) in the XP days. It was a fixed 'driver' that communicated between the software and hardware. So changing anything hardware would cause this issue.

 

Moving on with today's Windows 7,8. They no longer use this dated system of a HAL and so they are much more adaptable to changes in there configuration.

 

This doesn't go into driver compatibility issues that may arise with swapping out, But if you are doing a major hardware change you should always do a clean install of Windows.

 

Some HAL information if you want to read - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/99588/.

[EllieTheFuzzy]

When i took my Hard drive from my E7300 Build And put it into my i5 2320 Build Windows 7 booted up just fine....though for some reason the mouse wouldnt move.

 

It was rather odd O_o

[Suika]

I've been told you can uninstall all drivers and swap components safely, but it's always safer to just reinstall the OS.

[Blebekblebek]

Question, have you done it?

not every OS can easily interchange able

Windows 7 is pretty much tolerant about swapping hardware

but I've had much trouble with Windows 8, specially if you install it over UEFI platform.

[blu4]

 

Ridska here ,

 

As a little boy my father (who used to fiddle with PC's at his time )

told me that if you try to upgread youre motherboard and youre cpu , youre opirating system would be sees to exsist .

as a little boy i belived him .know at what time line of my life he told me but i am certen that he did tell me that .

 

  because he is my father after all. and when youre a little kid , who do you trust the most ?! The homeless man across the street or youre mother and father ?

 

So fast forward, im here , ( im 18 Btw )

and i still belive this BUT..

That doesnt mean i had my doughts about it .

Any thing is possible to a carten extent ( or at least thats what i belive )

 

So Linus Tech Tips Forums , will you be the myth busters of tech for this day ?

 

Thanks and as always , Stay groovie

 

Please change the title- it's "your" not "you're".

[Ridska]

This was more the case back in ye'olde days of Windows XP and below. Swapping out major parts of your computer would cause a BSOD on start up with something along the lines of 'HAL.EXE blah blah blah' Now the thing to note about HAL ( Hardware Abstraction Layer ) in the XP days. It was a fixed 'driver' that communicated between the software and hardware. So changing anything hardware would cause this issue.

 

Moving on with today's Windows 7,8. They no longer use this dated system of a HAL and so they are much more adaptable to changes in there configuration.

 

 

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This doesn't go into driver compatibility issues that may arise with swapping out, But if you are doing a major hardware change you should always do a clean install of Windows

Question Then : Can you do this ? : You install the Os to a SSD or a HDD , and then preserve it there and after youre done with the motherbaord and the CPu swap , you plug it in right back , and it would work just as fine like it did previously ?! 

 

And a nother question : Is my myth busted ?

[Ridska]

Please change the title- it's "your" not "you're".

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[blu4]

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I care because I pay attention to what I write and this hurts my eyes.

[duriel]

went from fx-8320 & ga-970a-ud3p to i7-4790k & asrock extreme6 and windows loaded up like normal, even though i was attempting to get into bios to reinstall windows lol

 

unnecessary but still recommended.

[d3sl91]

went from fx-8320 & ga-970a-ud3p to i7-4790k & asrock extreme6 and windows loaded up like normal, even though i was attempting to get into bios to reinstall windows lol

 

unnecessary but still recommended.

Dang! have always had issues going amd>intel or vise versa

 

My exprience has been this:

 

1. Back up your stuff before you start, no matter what

2. Give it a try. If intel to intel or amd to amd, you are generally okay, as long as it's not a huge jump (Like, 1155 to 1150 is usually fine).

3. You will need to reactivate windows. You will be able to do this as long as it ahs been 90 days + with almost no problems (Windows 7) Windows 8 you will probably need to call and activate - tell them you ahve it installed on one machione (like you do) and voila, activated. 

[MEC-777]

Depends on which hardware you're swapping out.

 

If you're going from say an H87 mobo to a Z97 mobo, you should be fine and should only have to reactivate windows as well as install a few drivers. It's probably easier going from one motherboard to another if it's from the same manufacturer (Asus to Asus, MSI to MSI etc.).

 

Now, if you're changing platforms altogether (going from say, AM3+ to Z97 or LGA775 to 1150 or something like that) then that's when you might encounter more serious issues on the new platform. The newer the platform (going from and to), the easier the swap will be, generally speaking. Lots of people have reported only having to install drivers and reactivate windows upon upgrading to newer better platforms/sockets from within the same manufacturer (AMD FM2 to AM3+ or H87 to Z97 etc.).

 

I haven't done so myself... yet. So take what I say with caution as what I've said has come from what others have said.

[Arct1c0n]

It won't "KILL" the OS but it will definetely make it run like shit until you do a fresh rebuild

[GoodBytes]

While I don't want to speak to fast. Unlike Windows 7/8, I was able to take my SSD with Windows 1, plug it on any computer specs at work, and it successfully booted. Windows at start-up does a "Getting my device ready" process, and then it successfully boot. Very interesting. We will see how it turns out. It could be that it is because of the Windows 2 Go feature is normally for Enterprise edition of Windows (well introduced in Windows 8), and they enabled it for the tech preview for testing, or simply wanted to make the experience more robust against hardware changes.

Regardless, as of now (that means without Windows 10 as we know nothing about in that regard), if you have a retail version of Windows you have no problem changing anything. Re-install, activate, and all is good. However, if you have the OEM version of Windows, then it is locked on your motherboard. The license agreement states that the only time you are permitted to re-use your Windows on a different motherboard without going and buying a new license, is that the current motherboard is broken, and an exact replacement can't be found (produce discontinued from production).

[Ridska]

I care because I pay attention to what I write and this hurts my eyes.

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[itachipirate]

I still don't think it's a good idea at all. But I've had times where I can use old hard drives in different computers and have them work fine. And other times when they don't boot at all...