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[AIB conference leak] AMD 390X possible specifications and performance leaked [March 16th]

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The following info is from a private AIB conference leak.


We asked the leaker from previous post if he could share more information about the new Radeon flagship graphics card.
To our surprise, he delivered.

 

Just bear in mind, we were unable to confirm the authenticity of this leak. In fact, I’m still skeptical about 4096 cores, how large would this GPU be? Anyway let’s see what we’ve got here.

 

AMD Radeon R9 390X: 4096 stream processors

Like we said two days ago the presentation would take place today. It’s a briefing for AIB partners, not for the public.

 

There are many references to previous leaks. For instance, the memory clock is 1250 MHz, which confirms the Sisoft database entry. Also one slide is titled “King of the hill”, referring to the leak from January, where it’s supposedly the codename for the new flagship (but for some reason it was called R9 380X back then).

 

AMD Radeon R9 390X: up to 8GB HBM

 

AMD Radeon R9 390X is said to arrive with Fiji GPU with 4096 cores and HBM memory. Earlier plans were to release Radeon R9 390X with 4GB HBM Gen1 (1GB per stack), but TITAN-X launch made those plans obsolete. Currently AMD is planning to launch R9 390X with 8GB but Gen2 (2GB per stack). We were told it was a very hard decision to make. AMD has not released anything for gamers since Radeon R9 285, while NVIDIA has released both mobile and desktop GeForce 900 series, and tomorrow they will add TITAN X to the family of ridiculously-priced models.

 

If I’m reading this right, R9 390X should have a bandwidth of 1.25 TB/s. HBM Gen2 has 256 GB/s bandwidth per stack, so 4 stacks, each with capacity of 2GB, would give 1 TB/s bandwidth.

 

Fiji has no competition when it comes to computing performance. The 8.6 TFLOPS performance is something that even TITAN X  will be unable to reach. Scroll down to the bottom to see gaming performance.

 

Slides

 

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If this is true then they planed it to happen right before the Nvidia event. Smart move hopefully the 390X will be less than $999.

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If this is true then they planed it to happen right before the Nvidia event. Smart move hopefully it the 390X will be less than $999.

 

If AMD hates money and surviving, it will be less than 999. It has too much tech and too much new tech to come in that low, if AMD cares about profits. 

 

Which they should. Unless they are morons. 

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If AMD hates money and surviving, it will be less than 999. It has too much tech and too much new tech to come in that low, if AMD cares about profits. 

 

Which they should. Unless they are morons. 

If it performs just a little better than the Titan X than it might be better to get the Titan X IF the price is $999. But lower TDP and better optimization might be a selling point. But then again around 648 gb/s is pretty fast. I guess we will have to sit tight and see.

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I am very interested to see how this card actually performs. I hope beats out the 980, otherwise there is really no incentive for Nvidia to push farther.

 

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If this is true then they planed it to happen right before the Nvidia event. Smart move hopefully the 390X will be less than $999.

 

knowing AMD and pricing it will cost like 700 usd.

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knowing AMD and pricing it will cost like 700 usd.

I was thinking that too. If it is around that then it will be pretty insane.

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knowing AMD and pricing it will cost like 700 usd.

 

Then where are the "consumercards" at like 370x, 380x. Such things the majority can afford. Right now the 970 is priced in the 400 to 450 dollar range (taken from ncix)

 

So what you think I can expect the 370x at when its launched? I would go with a 970 but I don't want a broken card so is it worth it holding in a little longer till these badboys come around?

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Then where are the "consumercards" at like 370x, 380x. Such things the majority can afford. Right now the 970 is priced in the 400 to 450 dollar range (taken from ncix)

 

So what you think I can expect the 370x at when its launched? I would go with a 970 but I don't want a broken card so is it worth it holding in a little longer till these badboys come around?

 

380x 470 usd to 500 usd.

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380x 470 usd to 500 usd.

amd couldnt have a 500 dollar gap to less than 999 usd

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Pricing:

 

R7 360 - 110$

R7 360X - 150$

R9 370 - 200$

R9 380 - 330$

R9 380X - 400$

R9 390 - 700$

R9 390X - 700$+

 

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Then where are the "consumercards" at like 370x, 380x. Such things the majority can afford. Right now the 970 is priced in the 400 to 450 dollar range (taken from ncix)

The GTX 970 costs ~$330 everywhere, including NCIX, so I don't know what card you've beeen

http://www.ncixus.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&sku=102266&vpn=ZT-90101-10P&manufacture=Zotac&promoid=1436

http://www.ncixus.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&sku=102012&vpn=GV-N970WF3OC-4GD&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1088

http://www.ncixus.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&sku=102481&vpn=04G-P4-2974-KR&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1088

The GTX 960 has gone down as low as $180.

The 380X will (likely) be the 290X and the 370X will (likely) be the the 280X, so you can expect fairly similar pricing.

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I am very interested to see how this card actually performs. I hope beats out the 980, otherwise there is really no incentive for Nvidia to push farther.

 

An arms race is very important for us to keep getting good affordable cards.

This card performs 60% better than R9 290X, that is around on pair or 10% slower than 970, 980 is 10% than 970, so it should be around 30-40% quicker than 980, so it should be around/on pair with TITAN X

 

Of course, these numbers that I just said are super accurate, Double Double Confirmed at all resolutions (= quick napkin math using the 4K numbers in the slides)

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The GTX 960 has gone down as low as $180.

The 380X will (likely) be the 290X and the 370X will (likely) be the the 280X, so you can expect fairly similar pricing.

 

Maybe got CAD by accident. The 960 is almost identical to my R9 270x and speaking of 2015 a 2Gb card won't cut it anymore. For later I want to jump from 1080p to 1440p so 4Gb is a must. If that's true the 370x is an option for me. So thanks. 

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I am very interested to see how this card actually performs. I hope beats out the 980, otherwise there is really no incentive for Nvidia to push farther.

 

An arms race is very important for us to keep getting good affordable cards.

The 980? We're debating about it beating the Titan X here, the 980 is probably gonna get its ass handed to it by this card(if the leaks are correct). But then again considering this is probably gonna be at around the 600-999 price range, it'd better...

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The 980? We're debating about it beating the Titan X here, the 980 is probably gonna get its ass handed to it by this card(if the leaks are correct). But then again considering this is probably gonna be at around the 600-999 price range, it'd better...

I dont believe anything until they cards are actually launched. The rest is speculation.

 

Plus everyone seems to ignore the R&D budget difference between Nvidia and AMD. 

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cool, i hope all the GPUs in the line up are new and not rebranded

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Oh my God...

There are now 4 (FOUR) rumors threads about the 390X on the front page. 1, 2, 3 ,4. On page 2 there are 1, 2 and 3 threads about it. I get that people are excited but can we at least try to keep it all in one thread?

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please fix this for night theme

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please fix this for night theme

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Wait, fuck all that: Why is the 290x NOT listed as supporting DX12? Really? I hope this was just a screw up for the conference.

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An important thing to note from this slide that is much different from the others is the 2 different power connector specifications, indicating 2 different 390x cards, a regular 390X and a Water Cooled Edition.  So I take it the WCE is the one with 8GB HBM and the regular version will either have 4GB HBM & 4GB DDR5, or just 4GB of HBM. If the regular version has 4x4 memory, I'd be all for it, but if it only has 4GB of HBM then I'm not too sure how I feel about that.

 

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My assumption

 

390

700 dollars

3500-ish cores

4GB HBM

Air cooled

6+8pin connector

 

390X Air

800~ dollars

all cores

4GB HBM

Air cooled

6+8pin connector

 

390X WCE

900 dollars

all cores

8GB HBM

Water cooled

8+8Pin connector

 

395X2

 

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