AMD Officialy Confirms Existence of New Radeon Flagship "Ultra-Enthusiast" GPU

[Arct1c0n]

I own a 6800k and it won't stop at nothing doing whatever I throw at it.

Compared to a 4790k, it would be a different story

[Badger906]

4k and surround owners would be disagree.

Fine, the Titan X isn't in same league as 390x? Nvidia answers with 980ti or 990

I'm a 4k gamer! my gtx 770 does a fairly decent job of 4k at medium settings. thats a $300 gpu, the 390x should easily be able to play games at 4k on ultra based on all the hype.

for the price of a titan I'd expect to max out games on 3 4k screens.

its all down to price to performance not willy waving because you have the most expensive card.

the r9 295x2 cropped all over anything nvidia produced yet was half the price. why would you spend more and get less??

[Opcode]

Compared to a 4790k, it would be a different story

Not a single difference. A 4790k won't give me any more frames in games and I don't mess with thread heavy software. So the only difference is over $200.

[D3MON]

if the titan x gpu is anything to go by at 1.5x 980 specs if amd's top of the line single gpu card is 4096 cores etc etc then it should be competitive with any possible 980ti as the full gm200/quadro m6000 core will likely have a 250w tdp (hence a 6+8 pin).

assuming no architecture change from amd (which I doubt) we could be looking at 7990 numbers including 375w TDP...except there's the thing of amd could be using the new global foundries/samsung fin-fet process on 14nm.
its 9 am and i havent slept but napkin maths would say 4096 cores on 14nm should be equal to 2048 cores on 28nm so 280x style TDP of 250.
so "980ti" with 3072 cores and 250w tdp.
390x with 4096 cores and 250w tdp.
Again napkin maths im too tired, due to smaller nodes voltages can also drop so power draw and output could become less than half.
for me personally...if the 390x is a 200w tdp card.....ill be waiting for something more powerful.

a 250w tdp didnt stop people buying the 480, 580, 7970, 780 etc, here in the UK electric is ALLOT more expensive than you guys get in the states yet even maxwell efficiency cant make the higher prices break even with a 290 card, maybe if your bitcoin mining 24/7?
noone mentioned the gtx680 tdp was 188w but when it became a 770 jumped 18% to 230w!!!
last time i checked noone complained about the 78*c reference 780 temps which is hotter than my 290 reaches (aftermarket or not, temps are temps...)

either way the full gm200 vs what amd has should be fun, id put money on nvidia holding something back while they wait for amd to launch, if they launch a 2560 core theyll have to price cut, if its around 2816 it'll be much closer.

[Lord Baal]

Compared to a 4790k, it would be a different story

Price alone says they're not competing that's like comparing the intel core 2 quad q6600 in my surviving 7 year old PC and that Linus used in his scrapyard wars build to the AMD 6800k or like trying to say oh but a Nvidia 9600gt doesn't out perform a R9 270x.  I say this as the owner of only 1 AMD cpu and 3 I7 K versions so clearly when it comes to CPU's I'm intel all the way but that's because my budget allows me to be. 

[HippY]

This is rather interesting, as it means, that the Official big release is close ( this is the first time AMD Officially, although it is more like half-official announcing) and they are not "just" crammed more cores, but trying to create a new gen product for the VR era!

Also as far as I know the know the Crescent bay has a 90 Hz 2560*1440 display (might be different tho then please let me know) and then it is a great sign that this high end card can power this display fluently with the demos.

I for one cannot wait what this card will be as it seems rather interesting,  especially if it can compete with GM200. Only benches will tell

 

Sorry guys that I could not shitpost here regarding some expected power consumption and heat output, that we cannot really put into context as we know nothing about the power of the card, and I did not try to insult the whole forum that they like nVidia. I will try harder next time

[shawno]

I cannot wait for the release of amds new flagship!

Screw the titan x, if its anything like previous titans its going to be an over priced and under delivering card at best.

I got a good feeling about these new cards

[Dabombinable]

YES!

AMD KILL THE TITAN X WITH FIRE!

 

 Or your house when you use it

 

/s

[Opcode]

 Or your house when you use it

 

/s

#LetsCookWithNvidia

[cesrai]

#LetsCookWithNvidia

Fucking awesome.

[Dabombinable]

#LetsCookWithNvidia

Lol, that's not exactly the newer generation. And I know about how hot their GPU's can get, my Geforce 256 and FX 5500 managed to actually give me a first degree burn, and they were only on idle with shitloads of cooling.

[GRJohn]

They will likely show it off at the tressfx demo today.

[cubercaleb]

As an environmentalist I have a boycott on AMD products. I won't give a shit about what they produce until their cards are more efficient.

[Dabombinable]

As an environmentalist I have a boycott on AMD products. I won't give a shit about what they produce until their cards are more efficient.

So you want to wait another decade for an AMD product?

[Khvarrioiren]

As an environmentalist I have a boycott on AMD products. I won't give a shit about what they produce until their cards are more efficient.

 

Not sure if that's sarcasm or not.

[SkilledRebuilds]

As an environmentalist I have a boycott on AMD products. I won't give a shit about what they produce until their cards are more efficient.

Hypocrisy

 

If you were THIS stringent on AMD, you wouldn't give a shit about Nvidia either.... their TDP's & Power requirements they state are not all accurate and can be fairly blown wide open almost as bad as AMD's cards are.

 

Nvidia is more efficient yes,...at stock, push them with overclocking and they are quite close to their rivals.

Close enough that you should boycott both companies if thats your way of thinking.

[thewafflemaster]

How about AMD makes CPUs that compete with Intel first.

[HippY]

As an environmentalist I have a boycott on AMD products. I won't give a shit about what they produce until their cards are more efficient.

AMD R9 290 TDP is 275W officially

Nvidia 780 TDP is 250W officially

 

These cards are neck and neck, and those are the official printed numbers

 

AMD R9 290X had an official 290W TDP

Nvidia 780Ti had an official 250W TDP

 

here you see that 780 and ti has the same TDP, so let us look at an bench site, like anandtech

 

as you see there is 3W difference between at 290x being at Quiet mode, at uber there is 30W

(these are total system power consumption numbers but it can represent the difference of power consumption)

 

And lastly: if you are so environmentalist why would you buy dedicated GPU anyway? I mean an integrated one would be the lowest consumption, more polar bear cubs would stay alive

[ErickS89]

everyone's mentioning the titan z.. surely they're not even in the same league to start comparing. they maybe similar in power, but the titan z will probably be $1200 the 390x should come in at around $650 that's 2 completely different target audiences.

while I'm sure the titan is an epic card I'm still not sure if nvidia completely know who their aiming it at. industry grade performance aimed at enthusiasts.

I mean how many average people are going to utilise anywhere near the 12gb frame buffer. not even 8gb cards are particularly stressed in that area at the moment.

triple 4K? Surround gaming?

You'll still probably want 2 cards for 3x4K though.

[Meladath]

AMD R9 290 TDP is 275W officially

Nvidia 780 TDP is 250W officially

 

These cards are neck and neck, and those are the official printed numbers

 

AMD R9 290X had an official 290W TDP

Nvidia 780Ti had an official 250W TDP

 

here you see that 780 and ti has the same TDP, so let us look at an bench site, like anandtech

 

as you see there is 3W difference between at 290x being at Quiet mode, at uber there is 30W

(these are total system power consumption numbers but it can represent the difference of power consumption)

 

And lastly: if you are so environmentalist why would you buy dedicated GPU anyway? I mean an integrated one would be the lowest consumption, more polar bear cubs would stay alive

 

But... but... MUH NVIDIA SAYS ITS MORE EFFICIENT!

but...but... AMD runs hot and needs a nuclear power plant for power!

Right? RIGHT GUYS?!?!

 

Gotta love silly nvidia fanboys or just ignorant people that listen to them

[Briggsy]

For the love of sanity, if your GPU works to do what you want it to do, its good. End of discussion.

 

Using graphic cards for something other than displaying text and images on an internet forum is blasphemy. 

[MrRavens]

Hopefully if they announce the card and roughly the price, it would shake Nvidia. Nvidia should stop feeling so comfortable, though they keep getting more of the market.

[HippY]

But... but... MUH NVIDIA SAYS ITS MORE EFFICIENT!

but...but... AMD runs hot and needs a nuclear power plant for power!

Right? RIGHT GUYS?!?!

 

Gotta love silly nvidia fanboys or just ignorant people that listen to them

The problem (?) starts when people brings emotions to something rational, although I am aware that many cases emotions hard to ignore.

 

We are talking about 2 large piece of silicone and copper, doing logical calculations. One uses 20-60W more power than the other

One can argue that at power consumption it means one uses 1 amp more current than the other, and it goes to heat and it can be proven mathematically

 

But when people start to "hate" on one brand and "praise" the other, as they have less R&D money than the other, or engineers not as capable to create components, and do nothing else just to show their hate with weak reasons, that is where thing goes wrong. These are companies who tries to create the best tools to logical problems, and their momentary position can change a lot in the next year, see the past 30 years of computing as an example.

Appreciate the components and love them as well, I mean that is the reason why we are here, but being " a fan" of one company or other at computing seems less reasonable as I know more about electronics.

 

 

On the otherside, at cars where I am not as deeply involved as in electronics my favourite brand is BMW as they have lovely interiors and I am usually surprised when I see a different brand with good interior, so I can understand of liking a brand`s product, but I would not go as far as "hate" other brands as they are competition

[BrianPena]

Notice how this thread has 2 pages of replies and the Titan X thread has 24.

 

Probably because Nvidia actually show cased the new card? This thread is just about AMD comfirming its existence, which is already a given. I don't understand how you can compare both threads.

 

Fanboys will be fanboys though, there has to be at least 1 in each type of these threads.

[cesrai]

AMD R9 290 TDP is 275W officially

Nvidia 780 TDP is 250W officially

 

These cards are neck and neck, and those are the official printed numbers

 

AMD R9 290X had an official 290W TDP

Nvidia 780Ti had an official 250W TDP

 

here you see that 780 and ti has the same TDP, so let us look at an bench site, like anandtech

 

 

as you see there is 3W difference between at 290x being at Quiet mode, at uber there is 30W

(these are total system power consumption numbers but it can represent the difference of power consumption)

 

And lastly: if you are so environmentalist why would you buy dedicated GPU anyway? I mean an integrated one would be the lowest consumption, more polar bear cubs would stay alive

M8 TDP doesn't mean power consumption, TDP is a way to measure heat like Kalvin, but you point is ture.