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Skylake to drop USB 2.0 completely, but say goodbye to Windows 7 Installation via USB

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Original source in Chinese from expreview, translation by WCCF

http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-remove-support-usb-based-windows-7-installation-platform-specs/

 

Long story short, Intel is dropping USB 2.0 ports from all of its Skylake platforms, but USB 3.0/3.1 will no longer require drivers except for advanced device functions. Because of this, you can no longer install Windows 7 via USB, because Windows 7 does not have the code base for the HSCIx protocol which Intel's USB 3 specification during the installation process. This means you can't use your USB mouse and keyboard either. You must have PS/2 devices if you wish to install Windows 7 on the Skylake platforms, and you will have to constantly plug and unplug a PS/2 mouse and keyboard every other screen.

 

So, if Windows 10 isn't out within the next 5-6 months, you can say hello to windows 8.1 if you want to run a Skylake S platform.

 

There's also stuff about the new speedstep and other technologies Skylake brings nestled in the article.

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Intel always likes to give shock to their people, doesn't it? :D

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Wha......

 

Fuck skylake.

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Intel always likes to give shock to their people, doesn't it? :D

Whereas AMD is predictable and disappointing  :lol:

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Seems to be intel is trying to push USB 3.0 as 2.0 has been out for a while and is fairly bad compared but I don't think it'll completely remove 2.0, legacy support is too important. 

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As my computer is running Windows 7. Either way, yay, Skylake.

 

I would get 8.1 in a heartbeat if my internet I'm paying for wasn't 3Mb/s down and averaging 1.5-2Mb/s... Sometime .5Mb/s down.

 

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Seems to be intel is trying to push USB 3.0 as 2.0 has been out for a while and is fairly bad compared but I don't think it'll completely remove 2.0, legacy support is too important. 

Obviously you can plug any older USB device into a 3/3.1 port, but the thing about Windows 7 is it can't talk to 3.0 during the installation process, as it has no native support. Without a 2.0 port on the board, you can't talk to Windows 7 via USB, only through PS/2

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good thing i still got my old compaq ball mouse and an old PS/2 Keyboard. whcih i use during installation anyway

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I find it much faster than windows 7 and with start8, i actually like the start menu even more because it is more customizable.

Don't get me wrong I understand that, and I've never used 8.1, but from what I hear the time it takes to customize the UI to being something pleasant is obnoxious. I'm just going to hold off until Windows 10 to get all the performance gains, DX 12, etc..

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Whereas AMD is predictable and disappointing  :lol:

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Don't get me wrong I understand that, and I've never used 8.1, but from what I hear the time it takes to customize the UI to being something pleasant is obnoxious. I'm just going to hold off until Windows 10 to get all the performance gains, DX 12, etc..

Totally agree. Would do the same if i didn't get windows 8.1 pro for free from my school :P (still have a windows 7 home premium license left)

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I prefer 8.1, with Start8.

 

this x100000000000000000000000000

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this x100000000000000000000000000

Okay that makes a witch to burn and a heathen whose fingers I must remove. Anyone else?  :ph34r:

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There's no point to upgrade. Haswell will be a thing for a while. Unless you looking for a build just now. The performance gains are to minor that it would be worth it to abadon haswell. 

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Okay that makes a witch to burn and a heathen whose fingers I must remove. Anyone else?  :ph34r:

 

8.1 is fantastic (when you are using start8) why would you want to use ancient 7

 

 

There's no point to upgrade. Haswell will be a thing for a while. Unless you looking for a build just now. The performance gains are to minor that it would be worth it to abadon haswell. 

 

This is 100% true, most of us that have a recent i5 or i7 will not really be upgrading, and for 90% of the home consumer market I doubt they would even notice, and have no idea what the different is between USB2 and 3 other than 3 is faster etc

 

I think its a none-issue, very few people are buying Windows 7 etc

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8.1 is fantastic (when you are using start8) why would you want to use ancient 7

The same reason some people still use TN panels: there are still some advantages.

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The same reason some people still use TN panels: there are still some advantages.

 

What is the advantage of using 7....

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The same reason some people still use TN panels: there are still some advantages.

unfair comparison. BTW, what would those advantages be?

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this x100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

And.....how exactly would you put that number into words? :D

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