Valve makes a tiny mistake. Fnatic exploits.

[KungPaoChino]

Here is the boost spot  : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCganwY7hkU#t=31

 

Today's DreamHack Winter match, LDLC vs Fnatic, was heated. 

On the third map overpass, Fnatic went from a 2-13 deficit to a 16-13 victory. 

 

Background information : Teams are playing at Dreamhack winter stockholm with a prize pool of $250,000.

 

This match is highly controversial as one of Fnatic's team member was boosted. Many claim  it is pixel walking ( standing on invisible ground ),  while others believe it is a legal boost.  

 

Update:  LDLC sent an official disputed and infraction on Fnatic is possible. If Fnatic gets an infraction, punishments may include DQ, or RM.

More update : 

 ... commentary and analysis from a well respected member of the CSGO community

 

Source : https://twitter.com/HLTVorg/status/538410715657560065

Twitch broadcast ( if you can watch it the past broadcast) : http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhackcs

 

It is a shame that a team can win and turn the match around over one small exploit or boost spot.  In my opinion it is Valve's fault for making this mistake. Hopefully they will fix.  Everyone is going to veto this map. Also, the casters have asked many teams if they would use this exploit and all said yes. All of all the cs go matches, I've never seen something like boost spoits / exploits being debated.

[OfficialJsP]

#DisqualifyFnatic 

 

[TheSLSAMG]

Hopefully they fix it, but no one should fault the player for using the map to their advantage -- that's kind of the point.

[eelnico09]

What is this "boost"?

[TheSLSAMG]

And as much as this is true, it's up to them to make judgements on a case-to-case basis.

[OfficialJsP]

The boost is legal, that's all there is. Hopefully they fix it, but no one should fault the player for using the map to their advantage -- that's kind of the point.

 

no it is not legal

 

[TheSLSAMG]

no it is not legal

 

Read the comment I made prior.

[OfficialJsP]

Read the comment I made prior.

 

yeah i just saw that after i posted 

[H4X3R]

In tf2 basically anything is legal, weird how simply having more knowledge of the map gets you banned, kinda f'ed up IMO.

[Master Disaster]

Valve didn't make CSGO did they? Wasn't it Hidden Path who made and maintain it?

Anyway its no surprise the pros are using exploits, the pro scene has more cheaters in it than pub does. Hopefully he will get removed from the tournament.

[Norman_the_Owl]

"Pixelwalking is illegal"

 

A fnatic member was pixelwalking

 

What's the debate about?

 

Rules can be changed, but he'll hang before they are. That's how it's always worked

[EChondo]

Quick question, how the hell does a team go from losing 2-13 to a 16-13 win from using the same boost spot each round?

 

You'd think the other team would have caught onto this and didn't go that way on the map.

[OfficialJsP]

Valve didn't make CSGO did they? Wasn't it Hidden Path who made and maintain it?

Anyway its no surprise the pros are using exploits, the pro scene has more cheaters in it than pub does. Hopefully he will get removed from the tournament.

 

i think you mean they and what do u mean there are more cheaters in the pro scene lol there has only been a few confirmed cases and 10000+ cheater caught in mm 

[OfficialJsP]

Quick question, how the hell does a team go from losing 2-13 to a 16-13 win from using the same boost spot each round?

 

You'd think the other team would have caught onto this and didn't go that way on the map.

 

that's the thing they didn't go that way only a few times after the first time and since 99% of the time they didn't go that way they knew where they where going every round so they could rotate straight away and they couldn't see where the enemy player was

[KungPaoChino]

Quick question, how the hell does a team go from losing 2-13 to a 16-13 win from using the same boost spot each round?

 

You'd think the other team would have caught onto this and didn't go that way on the map.

They didn't. 

LDLC had no idea where the shooter was at.

 

Fnatic was the only team that knew about that spot.

[Master Disaster]

Cheating isn't just using hacks you know, exploits, map bugs and other mechanic breaking techniques are rife in the pro scene. A lot of leagues allow it so they don't get in trouble for doing it anyway.

And no, I was genuinely asking because AFAIK Hidden Path created CSGO, I didn't realise Valve had any more input than publishing it over Steam. You learn something new every day.

[qwertywarrior]

[Tonylu1595]

They didn't. 

LDLC had no idea where the shooter was at.

 

Fnatic was the only team that knew about that spot.

Actually, the community found out about that spot originally and Fnatic took that idea.

[JAKEBAB]

I don't understand how a "glitch" is allowed if u get reported glitching on cod enough in PUBLIC games u usually get banned or reset but on CS in a tournament u don't? wtf

[Victorious Secret]

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[dragosudeki]

Meh, I think this should be allowed. Its a genuine strategy (until it is fixed). It's not cheating if it is part of the map design. More like a problem on the dev's end.

[EChondo]

that's the thing they didn't go that way only a few times after the first time and since 99% of the time they didn't go that way they knew where they where going every round so they could rotate straight away and they couldn't see where the enemy player was

 

They didn't. 

LDLC had no idea where the shooter was at.

 

Fnatic was the only team that knew about that spot.

For clarification, I didn't know how much they could actually see of the map.

 

fnatic should be disqualified.

 

*Edit, here is a video showing how bad this spot is;

 

[KungPaoChino]

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[ManWithBeard1990]

Question: what is pixelwalking?

[Tonylu1595]

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This is part of the largest Lan Festival, so in a way, yeah.