Call of Duty Ghosts, Not using new engine as previously claimed?

[JaeDee884]

Call of Duty Ghosts to run the same engine as the previous game with some modifications instead of a new engine like previously claimed. 
Executives are going as far as to claim modifications to the current engine qualify it to have the title of brand new engine, seems like once again the Cod series are catering to blind consumers with buzz words and outright lies. 

I was really excited about a new engine, would've validated me purchasing consecutive cod games for the first time but looks like once again I'll be waiting a few years for my next purchase. 

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/05/next-gen-call-of-duty-last-last-gen-engine/

 

The reason they’re still using the same engine, as opposed to an all-new one, is about what you’d expect given the annual release cycle of the series. “[it's] impossible to develop a new engine from the ground up in a two year cycle”, he says.

“What we do is we say ‘OK what are the things that are significant and that we would say that are encompassing of the engine or its visual quality?” he adds. “Are those being upgraded in a significant way? Alright, then I think that warrants that we’ve got a new engine on our hands”.

 

What do you guys think, Is it ok for a publisher to reuse an engine with modifications and claim its a new engine entirely, or should we as a community takes stances against this for the purpose of transparency?

Also how much of this "new engine" is built around dog mechanics? just a thought i had towards the end of this post, are the claiming new engine due to added "Canine coding"?

[david cassar]

Still looks the same if you ask me. Its not a new engine its just mw3' s engine with a bit of gloss.

[silencerbob]

And MW3 wasn't a great looking game.

[JaeDee884]

Well i went from MW to Blops2, several year jump makes the advancements seem more then incremental. 

[tp95112]

Its sad how they have to lie and tell people its a new engine.

[JaeDee884]

Unfortunately it works on fanboys, and general consumers. who unfortunately make the majority.

[bradscoolio]

I want better lighting, ambient occlusion, anti-aliasing, specular map, anisotropic filtering, destruction physX, less fog, actual high resolution textures, and a but load of model enhancements.

Yeah, just make it look like battlefield without fog.

Is that so hard?

[TechFan@ic]

They must think DX11 features are "Next Gen" .

[Villain]

It's all about marketing.. When you have so many people rapped around your finger you can tell them just about anything and they will believe it. With this generation of consoles, the justification for the game looking like crap is because the hardware is very old, and if you want your game to run consistently at 60fps you really have to lower the graphical fidelity. From the rumors and specification releases, it appears both consoles will have a GPU equivalent of something like a 7790 or a 7850; so now it seems they are just not willing to spend any time and money on a new engine considering how people will still purchase the game regardless.

[Beskamir]

if their own engine is this terrible, than why don't they just borrow cryengine and make something thats actually quality? it would probably cost them too much and they make millions either way so they won't care unless people stopped buying their games.

[Kamil]

I've got a question, since I haven't actually followed anything about CoD for a long time... has there been a new engine at all since the first Modern Warfare? I honestly don't know for sure, and don't recall ever seeing a big enough change in graphics to conclude that one has occurred.

[ccaian]

I want better lighting, ambient occlusion, anti-aliasing, specular map, anisotropic filtering, destruction physX, less fog, actual high resolution textures, and a but load of model enhancements.

Yeah, just make it look like battlefield without fog.

Is that so hard?

 

Battlefield 3 doesn't look that great. I don't know whats wrong with it, it just looks bad. Could be its post processing, bad anti aliasing or its bad textures. Granted its an old game, but even when it came out I always thought it looked wierd, more like a movie rather than real life.

 

For me, the more realistic a game looks the more beautiful it will look to me. Look at farcry 3 or crysis (1, not 2 and 3.). They have done it right, everything looks so subtle and natural. Lighting is spot on and post processing and colours are absolutely perfect!!

[Samdb]

I want better lighting, ambient occlusion, anti-aliasing, specular map, anisotropic filtering, destruction physX, less fog, actual high resolution textures, and a but load of model enhancements.

Yeah, just make it look like battlefield without fog.

Is that so hard?

This ^

[Nertballs]

it's sad that they keep using this '2 year cycle' as a cover for bone-idled laziness! they gotta get their stuff together and give it a last decent hoorah to see if they can get any of their cred back with the actual gamers.

[infallday]

But...dem dawgs looked so nice. Sick wall jumping def looked next gen, come on guys....and did you see how smooth and ROUND those models looked up close?!?! They had FISH ffs! FISH

 

eta:DONT FORGET THE AWESOME FOREARMS

[Legion]

Call of Duty reusing stuff from the past, when did this become news?

[suky]

Realistic sunrays coming through trees

[Hyydrah]

Call of Duty Ghosts to run the same engine as the previous game with some modifications instead of a new engine like previously claimed. 

Executives are going as far as to claim modifications to the current engine qualify it to have the title of brand new engine, seems like once again the Cod series are catering to blind consumers with buzz words and outright lies. 

I was really excited about a new engine, would've validated me purchasing consecutive cod games for the first time but looks like once again I'll be waiting a few years for my next purchase. 

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/05/next-gen-call-of-duty-last-last-gen-engine/

 

What do you guys think, Is it ok for a publisher to reuse an engine with modifications and claim its a new engine entirely, or should we as a community takes stances against this for the purpose of transparency?

Also how much of this "new engine" is built around dog mechanics? just a thought i had towards the end of this post, are the claiming new engine due to added "Canine coding"?

What a disappointment, game engine revisions are typically the number one cause of improvement in a game.

[ALXAndy]

LIARS. Also this.

 

[kemical]

hehehehe why am I not suprised I bet the consoles and handle it_

[Night]

In regards to COD it doesnt even matter. People will still buy Uber Pwnage Dominator 14... <What I refer to COD as.

[Hyydrah]

LIARS. Also this.

 

That was amusing, thanks for that.  :lol:

[MzCatieB]

its COD what where you expecting the truth?

[Arunas]

yea next gen ^^ :D

 

[LinusSwagTips]

so let's be honest mw3 looked like shit, so does this mean they are basically polishing a turd?