[TechReport] AMD Gaming Evolved Adds Recording/Streaming Capabilities

[ilikemacandpc]

Why don't we get back on topic: I posit that the VCE H.264 video encoding is better than Shadowplay. If you disagree with my statement, show that I am wrong.

 

@Fetzie 

Why do you say this? Doesn't Nvidia use their onboard H.264 encoder too? 

[Enderman]

read the reviews before blaming amd

 

some of the 1 star 290x reviews are miners complaining, these cards are meant for gaming not mining cryptocurrency (albeit very good at it)

some of the reviews seem to be asus's fault not amd's

some people may have incompatible hardware or incredibly bad luck (one review had 2 cards fail, could be a bad power supply imo)

 

My experience with amd has been very good, no driver issues at all and my 290 never exceeds 70c even when oc'ed 1159mhz on the core and 1500mhz on the memory.

all the cards i compared are from asus, so if it was a problem with asus then all the cards would have worse reviews, not just AMD

plus you can see that asus actually contacts most people who are having issues in an attempt to assist, which is pretty sweet

 

also I completely understand that people have had great experiences using AMD, it all depends on how lucky you get

[DaRk0]

@Fetzie

Why do you say this? Doesn't Nvidia use their onboard H.264 encoder too?

They are actually.

[Enderman]

Stop being a fanboy and shut up. This thread is about the new streaming tech, not your debate over drivers. 

Totally 100% mature person right here ^

[TheNinjaNextDor]

YAY I have no regrets switching to AMD now.

[Fetzie]

@Fetzie 

Why do you say this? Doesn't Nvidia use their onboard H.264 encoder too? 

 

I have not experienced the pixelation (i.e. the drop in bitrate) that my friends saw when their nVidia card was put under heavy graphics load while recording with Shadowplay.

[dmegatool]

Wow the level of fanboyism is strong within this one... Seriously, I have an Nvidia card and I love them. I had bad experiences with AMD. But who cares. I can see the good things they're doing. It's not like they're taking anything from me. 

 

I think that's great news and hopes it works as well as Shadowplay has been for me. 

[Verne]

This vs. ShadowPlay vs. OBS(x264) vs OBS(QuickSync) vs OBS(NVidia Encoder) comparison for streaming would make for an interesting video.

[digitalnav]

I bet it will work just as bad as all their drivers do...

Please try to use their hardware before judging. Been using their drivers for a WHILE now with no issues.

[Enderman]

Please try to use their hardware before judging. Been using their drivers for a WHILE now with no issues.

it was sarcasm...

[Misanthrope]

I hope this is not all we can expect on this forum with all this new AMD news: endless trolls and endless people dumb enough to feed them.

[LAwLz]

Well someone refuses to acknowledge the facts...

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/15483-who-makes-better-drivers-amd-vs-nvidia-vs-intel/

Do you want more proof?

Just let me know, I have more if you need.

Even though I agree with you (come on AMD, the corrupt mouse cursor glitch still exists and it's been there for several years now, and your GNU/Linux drivers are awful), a poll here on LTT is not solid evidence.

Neither are newegg reviews for that matter...

You are the one being immature by saying what you did, Stop being Biased Mr ASUS GTX770 DCUII .

Ad hominem

I posit that the VCE H.264 video encoding is better than Shadowplay. If you disagree with my statement, show that I am wrong.

That's not how it works... If YOU make the statement then it's up to YOU to prove that it is correct. It's not up to others to disprove you. It's called "burden of proof".

I hope this is not all we can expect on this forum with all this new AMD news: endless trolls and endless people dumb enough to feed them.

I don't think it's trolls. I suspect that it's just fanboys (from both sides).

What is it with graphics cards threads attracting so many fanboys? Every time I open I read about AMD or Nvidia I just see post after post filled with logical fallacies like cherry picking, anecdotal evidence, generalizations etc.

I don't have an Nvidia GPU so I can't compare it to Shadowplay, but I will probably compare it to QuickSync tomorrow if I can be bothered. Even IF it is worse than Nvidia's and Intel's alternatives (I expect them to be pretty similar) it is still good news for everyone.

AMD users can now record videos which will create more content and it increases competition. Even if you are an Nvidia users you should be glad. Being butthurt that someone gets a new feature is just childish and egoistic. This only makes some peoples' computers better, it doesn't make your own worse.

[Enderman]

Even though I agree with you (come on AMD, the corrupt mouse cursor glitch still exists and it's been there for several years now, and your GNU/Linux drivers are awful), a pool here on LTT is not solid evidence.

Neither are newegg reviews for that matter...

These were just some examples...

The average of customer reviews on any website is about the same everywhere, with more people being fully satisfied with nvidia.

Yes linux drivers are awful, my linux teacher had to resort to 3rd party custom drivers. This is both good and bad, because AMD drivers are open source people can modify them to work in certain operating systems. Nvidia drivers are not open source, but will work most of the time for most people. Neither are perfect of course, but if you took all reviews from all over the internet, less people have issues with nvidia.

[Fetzie]

That's not how it works... If YOU make the statement then it's up to YOU to prove that it is correct. It's not up to others to disprove you. It's called "burden of proof".

 

I have posted the reason why I believe it is better more than once in this thread.

[Common_Courtesy]

Can we please go just one week without a tread turning into a AMD/Nvidia pissing match. Just. One. Week.  

[DeViLzzz]

Well for the people that have AMD definitely some nice editions to their software.  As for their video cards though while I did buy one AMD card in the past year, a 7850 1 GB, eh it didn't last long in the pc cuz I knew I'd want my son to have Nvidia too cuz of physX possibilities.  Still though AMD has had some cards nicely priced in the past few years and some good gaming bundles too to go with them.  Nothing wrong with AMD but just not for me.

[Sky Daddy]

all the cards i compared are from asus, so if it was a problem with asus then all the cards would have worse reviews, not just AMD

plus you can see that asus actually contacts most people who are having issues in an attempt to assist, which is pretty sweet

 

also I completely understand that people have had great experiences using AMD, it all depends on how unlucky you get

ftfy

 

Does not change the fact that most negative reviews were from miners, making their opinion pointless from a gaming perspective. 

[SkilledRebuilds]

There are bugs within VCE.

I've been using their VCE for ages.

Seems whether a new or old codec. The overall gpu usage drops affecting performance badly.

Hope they have that fixed.

[xAcid9]

I bet they are using John Mautari AFbC tech.

 

#longliveradeonpro

[bcredeur97]

sigh look at my sig... 6950 decently powerful... but no software technologies like mantle and now this are supported

[Hazorazor]

Please try to use their hardware before judging. Been using their drivers for a WHILE now with no issues.

Thank you Nav for giving appropriate insight. You really shouldn't be making judgements with out using both pieces of hw. I mean my gtx 560ti was great but so was my hd 7950 and my current r9 290.

[SkulD]

Wow, then wouldn't the amd fanboys outweigh the nvidia fanboys?

You can take a look at customer reviews on any site and more people are satisfied with their Nvidia cards than people are with AMD.

This is just a fact. I'm not saying that Nvidia has no problems with their drivers. I'm saying they have less than AMD.

There is no reason to get upset about this matter...everyone has their personal opinion. But a personal opinion will never be more valid that a proven fact.

You mean the Nvidia that had graphics card burning drivers some time ago?

you know that little incident when a driver was literally burning gpus¿

stahp being a fanboy man.

before you call ME an Amd fanboy, my 2nd PC has a Gtx760.

[Enderman]

You mean the Nvidia that had graphics card burning drivers some time ago?

you know that little incident when a driver was literally burning gpus¿

stahp being a fanboy man.

before you call ME an Amd fanboy, my 2nd PC has a Gtx760.

Yeah ik nvidia had some pretty bad drivers a while ago, but now most stuff is fixed.

If you havent noticed there seems to be at least 2 posts per day on the forum from someone having issues with their AMD graphics card. In comparison, I see about 1 complaint per month about nvidia driver/cards.

AMD really needs to put some effort into making their stuff work for more people...

Maybe it is just that more people are buying AMD cards, idk...

[kuddlesworth9419]

If it isn't as good as Shadowplay which is likely as they don't use a H.265 encoder then what is the point. FRAPS at that point would probably be better. 

[digitalnav]

If it isn't as good as Shadowplay which is likely as they don't use a H.265 encoder then what is the point. FRAPS at that point would probably be better. 

The point is that it will be a step in the right direction for people who don't use an NV GPU. ShadowPLay didn't start off being perfect. After a few revisions i'm sure this AMD option will be fine as well.