LTT Official Folding Month V (2022)

[Bianks84]

26 minutes ago, RollinLower said:

these are not clocked as aggressively and keep a much more consistent power target for long high-load operation.

I'm starting to consider that PBO may have something to do with it.

Might try to fiddle around with BIOS settings to optimize it.

[BiotechBen]

2 hours ago, BondiBlue said:

Oh trust me, I know that what I'm doing is far from ideal. If this wasn't just a random machine put together with spare parts that I only intended to use like this for a month then of course I'd get something better, ideally just a single better power supply. But what I have works perfectly fine for now. 

 

I certainly could do that, but I'd like to get at least a couple decent, modern power supplies to have on hand anyway. The only one I've got around right now is currently being used to run a NAS that needs a replacement PSU. 

It's not ideal (see @Gorgon's reply above), but it can work in a pinch. Personally I have all three power supplies connected to a power strip, and basically as soon as I turn it on the computer powers itself up. 

At what point does it become raw dog Austin Evans scrapyard wars dual PSU or Linus with the Lenovo machines 

[cbigfoot]

Point validation complete.  

@GOTSpectrum is alive and will be doing the post today.

[GOTSpectrum]

Just now, cbigfoot said:

@GOTSpectrum is alive 

Only just 

[Mxyzptlk]

Yeah….. I know exactly what’s causing more power usage…. 

[GOTSpectrum]

 

[cbigfoot]

15 minutes ago, Mxyzptlk said:

Yeah….. I know exactly what’s causing more power usage…. 

 

Spoiler

 

Cmon think hard i mean its not like you have that much running right....

[Alex Atkin UK]

In other news, SOOO much better, it even made a reassuring click when fully inserted.

[Mxyzptlk]

1 hour ago, cbigfoot said:

Cmon think hard i mean its not like you have that much running right....

Might it be my kids night light?   I'll turn that off tonight 

[cbigfoot]

28 minutes ago, Mxyzptlk said:

Might it be my kids night light?   I'll turn that off tonight 

dont forget your 2 Led Porch light that pulls 5/7 watts each...that your home automation turns on at dusk and off at dawn...i have that and one of my neighbors, a penny pincher, complains that I'm wasting SOOO much energy...his lights are still incandescent lol and only turns on for when they are outside..i don't have a single incandescent light bulb in my house...its a 150 watt and 100 watt equivalent LEDS at 40% and 60% power Front/back...based on the light needed...if i had my front light maxed out it looks like the suns out.

[Alex Atkin UK]

25 minutes ago, cbigfoot said:

dont forget your 2 Led Porch light that pulls 5/7 watts each...that your home automation turns on at dusk and off at dawn...i have that and one of my neighbors, a penny pincher, complains that I'm wasting SOOO much energy...his lights are still incandescent lol and only turns on for when they are outside..i don't have a single incandescent light bulb in my house...its a 150 watt and 100 watt equivalent LEDS at 40% and 60% power Front/back...based on the light needed...if i had my front light maxed out it looks like the suns out.

Mum being disabled we have LEDs on 24/7 in the hallway on a dim light as she can't move around in the dark to find the light switch, that must totally be what's using all the power here.

 

In all seriousness though, I'm hoping the fact I haven't had to use the portable AC unit to vent the hot air from my room into the hallway will help reduce the cost compared to last year.  Used that a lot last year as it was baking in my room and freezing everywhere else.

[cbigfoot]

10 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Mum being disabled we have LEDs on 24/7 in the hallway on a dim light as she can't move around in the dark to find the light switch, that must totally be what's using all the power here.

 

In all seriousness though, I'm hoping the fact I haven't had to use the portable AC unit to vent the hot air from my room into the hallway will help reduce the cost compared to last year.  Used that a lot last year as it was baking in my room and freezing everywhere else.

LOL also watch out i added a I5-12400 to my Account till sat Morning i will catch up to you adding ~55k a day right?

[Mxyzptlk]

Problem is, I still have to turn the heater on a bit. The 6 GPU's at home aren't enough to heat the house. Main heater doesn't have to run much because I have it set to 65f (18.3c). The wife would like it MUCH warmer then that though!

[Alex Atkin UK]

10 minutes ago, cbigfoot said:

LOL also watch out i added a I5-12400 to my Account till sat Morning i will catch up to you adding ~55k a day right?

I honestly don't know how this works.  I added the 12700f, increased the 4090 to 100% TDP (shaving 2-3 minutes per WU off the completion time), added the Macbook Pro back and my score was lower than yesterday despite PPD predicting to be higher.   I suspect it might reflect in tomorrows numbers instead, I did lose 10-15 minutes changing the 12VHPWR cable.

[Mxyzptlk]

36 minutes ago, cbigfoot said:

dont forget your 2 Led Porch light that pulls 5/7 watts each...that your home automation turns on at dusk and off at dawn...i have that and one of my neighbors, a penny pincher, complains that I'm wasting SOOO much energy...his lights are still incandescent lol and only turns on for when they are outside..i don't have a single incandescent light bulb in my house...its a 150 watt and 100 watt equivalent LEDS at 40% and 60% power Front/back...based on the light needed...if i had my front light maxed out it looks like the suns out.

Are you spying on me? 

[cbigfoot]

15 minutes ago, Mxyzptlk said:

Problem is, I still have to turn the heater on a bit. The 6 GPU's at home aren't enough to heat the house. Main heater doesn't have to run much because I have it set to 65f (18.3c). The wife would like it MUCH warmer then that though!

LOL i have my window open in my office with a fan (thermostat controlled) to keep my office ~ 75 which in turn keeps bedroom ~65 and downstairs ~60-65 my gas heat has yet to turn on...

13 minutes ago, Mxyzptlk said:

Are you spying on me? 

nope talking out of my @55 as that's what my set up is.lol...

 

14 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

I honestly don't know how this works.  I added the 12700f, increased the 4090 to 100% TDP, added the Macbook Pro back and my score was lower than yesterday despite PPD predicting to be higher.   It shaved 2-3 minutes per WU off the 4090 completion time.  I suspect it might reflect in tomorrows numbers instead.

well the 12400 has no vcard in it is an XPS 8950 for a friends parents...jsut doing a burn in...they just needed a basic computer...so i got them a Refurb XPS for ~750 with office...i know i know the MB isn't upgradeable etc but get me a 12400 with 16GB ram 256 GB SSD, 1tb HDD(for backups), PSU, case, Wifi/BT, Windows 11 pro(I know they can do home but it came with pro again refurb)  the closest i could get was ~600 without office and windows and the thing has dual 120MM fans 1 front 1 back...

[BiotechBen]

41 minutes ago, Mxyzptlk said:

Problem is, I still have to turn the heater on a bit. The 6 GPU's at home aren't enough to heat the house. Main heater doesn't have to run much because I have it set to 65f (18.3c). The wife would like it MUCH warmer then that though!

Have the main area set to 60F, with system being it up a few degrees, guest bedroom is no heat on, and then main bedroom is set to "not shivering". My MTD tracking on the electric bill app is at $75.58 with 10 days left in billing cycle.

[justpoet]

1 hour ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

I honestly don't know how this works.  I added the 12700f, increased the 4090 to 100% TDP (shaving 2-3 minutes per WU off the completion time), added the Macbook Pro back and my score was lower than yesterday despite PPD predicting to be higher.   I suspect it might reflect in tomorrows numbers instead, I did lose 10-15 minutes changing the 12VHPWR cable.

PPD on your computer is an estimate based on what it has been doing.  PPD on the sheet is only reflective of the last time it turned in a work unit.  As a CPU only folder, if I happen to get one that hits just after the stats for the daily pull here, that day is down about 50k and the next day is up about 50k (on average), since I'll end up with an extra work unit or two on the next day, and one less on the first day.

[Alex Atkin UK]

22 minutes ago, justpoet said:

PPD on your computer is an estimate based on what it has been doing.  PPD on the sheet is only reflective of the last time it turned in a work unit.  As a CPU only folder, if I happen to get one that hits just after the stats for the daily pull here, that day is down about 50k and the next day is up about 50k (on average), since I'll end up with an extra work unit or two on the next day, and one less on the first day.

I realise that, but given the 4090 went from 48 mins per WU to 45mins per WU (same project) and I had also adjusted next-unit-percentage to 100%, I was just kinda surprised.  But then I did lose 15 minutes and units coming in at vastly different completion times does make it hard to guess how it will work out.

I get the feeling final credit might be calculated some time after its actually been submitted, reducing the result by a random amount.

 

Or just plain unpredictable:

03:48:39:WU00:FS01:Final credit estimate, 399,882.00 points = 399,909 2022-11-18 03:54:27

04:22:05:WU00:FS01:Final credit estimate, 859,609.00 points = 859,590 2022-11-18 04:24:14

04:26:47:WU01:FS01:Final credit estimate, 566,775.00 points = 566,815 2022-11-18 04:34:13

You win some, you lose some I guess.

[rkv_2401]

The 3080 12GB is a really good card for me but the earliest I can get a new computer is 6 months from now...by which time even the next-gen 4000 series will be 7 months old...fish

[rkv_2401]

5 hours ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

I honestly don't know how this works.  I added the 12700f, increased the 4090 to 100% TDP (shaving 2-3 minutes per WU off the completion time), added the Macbook Pro back and my score was lower than yesterday despite PPD predicting to be higher.   I suspect it might reflect in tomorrows numbers instead, I did lose 10-15 minutes changing the 12VHPWR cable.

Man one day I turned on 3 more Folding devices and my total production went up by 100k...lol...turns out the 2060 PC had turned off overnight

*shrugs*

[BondiBlue]

I looked at my production graph from yesterday and felt quite disappointed to see such a large drop in points, but then I realized that I still managed to get over 7.5 million points on a slow day lol. 

 

I've currently got 5 GPUs out of service right now, so that's why the graph dropped yesterday. This morning I've been working on getting the two Quadros ready to go again, and I'm getting Windows installed on that machine right now. Next up is getting all 3 of my RX 580s moved to a different system so I can get them back up and running. It actually got so cold in the house this morning that I needed to run my furnace for a bit. The RX 580s and the Quadros were making a good amount of the heat for my house, and with them off the temperature dropped a lot. 

 

Also, I'll be adding another GPU later today if all goes well. I ordered a cheap RTX 2070 from eBay a while back, and it's out for delivery right now. It's a very basic blower-style card pulled from a Dell/Alienware computer, but I prefer to have a blower cooler for my purposes. Fingers crossed it won't be broken and I can add it to the mix of folding machines tonight. 

[OhBoy]

man this sucks. I just got my CPU chocked by a heavy 10 Hours work unite. I guess it will be another day under the 30Mil line.

[dogwitch]

fyi some cpu wu really dont like 1950x... has crash my system 3 times now....

[RollinLower]

sooo, my windows 10 F@H machine just suddenly started doing this:

16:38:02:WU02:FS01:0x22:Checkpoint completed at step 1400000
16:38:19:ERROR:Receive error: 997: Overlappende I/O-bewerking wordt uitgevoerd.
16:38:20:ERROR:Receive error: 997: Overlappende I/O-bewerking wordt uitgevoerd.
16:38:21:WU01:FS00:0xa8:Completed 9100000 out of 10000000 steps (91%)
16:38:35:ERROR:Receive error: 997: Overlappende I/O-bewerking wordt uitgevoerd.
16:38:47:ERROR:Receive error: 997: Overlappende I/O-bewerking wordt uitgevoerd.
16:38:57:ERROR:Receive error: 997: Overlappende I/O-bewerking wordt uitgevoerd.
16:39:06:ERROR:Receive error: 997: Overlappende I/O-bewerking wordt uitgevoerd.
16:39:08:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 1425000 out of 2500000 steps (57%)
16:39:43:ERROR:Receive error: 997: Overlappende I/O-bewerking wordt uitgevoerd.
16:39:55:ERROR:Receive error: 997: Overlappende I/O-bewerking wordt uitgevoerd.
16:40:13:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 1450000 out of 2500000 steps (58%)
16:40:14:WU02:FS01:0x22:Checkpoint completed at step 1450000
16:40:59:ERROR:Receive error: 997: Overlappende I/O-bewerking wordt uitgevoerd.
16:41:08:ERROR:Receive error: 997: Overlappende I/O-bewerking wordt uitgevoerd.
16:41:19:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 1475000 out of 2500000 steps (59%)
16:42:25:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 1500000 out of 2500000 steps (60%)
16:42:25:WU02:FS01:0x22:Checkpoint completed at step 1500000
16:43:18:WU01:FS00:0xa8:Completed 9200000 out of 10000000 steps (92%)
16:43:31:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 1525000 out of 2500000 steps (61%)
16:44:36:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 1550000 out of 2500000 steps (62%)
16:44:36:WU02:FS01:0x22:Checkpoint completed at step 1550000
16:45:24:ERROR:Receive error: 997: Overlappende I/O-bewerking wordt uitgevoerd.
16:45:32:ERROR:Receive error: 997: Overlappende I/O-bewerking wordt uitgevoerd.
16:45:42:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 1575000 out of 2500000 steps (63%)
16:46:47:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 1600000 out of 2500000 steps (64%)
16:46:48:WU02:FS01:0x22:Checkpoint completed at step 1600000
16:47:53:WU02:FS01:0x22:Completed 1625000 out of 2500000 steps (65%)

i found some older threads linking to the Threadripper 3960X i'm using, and also BIOS versions. but i'm already on the latest BIOS verion. any thoughts?