LTT Official Folding Month V (2022)

[LAR_Systems]

1 minute ago, BiotechBen said:

18454 has now crashed my 480 repeatedly for the past 16hrs

 

PROJECT #18454 RESEARCH FOR BIOFILM

https://folding.lar.systems/projects/folding_profile/18454

 

Looks like other 480 users have successfully folded the project before, wondering if you got a bad work unit or hardware settings like overclocks etc. causing issues.

[BiotechBen]

5 minutes ago, LAR_Systems said:

PROJECT #18454 RESEARCH FOR BIOFILM

https://folding.lar.systems/projects/folding_profile/18454

 

Looks like other 480 users have successfully folded the project before, wondering if you got a bad work unit or hardware settings like overclocks etc. causing issues.

Just looked back through the log, it appears to be successful submitting, and then getting assigned it again?

It's gotten 18454 3 times in the last 24 hrs.

 

Do Ellesmere cards fold this protein accurately and reliably and that's why they get it so often?

 

[LAR_Systems]

7 minutes ago, BiotechBen said:

Just looked back through the log, it appears to be successful submitting, and then getting assigned it again?

It's gotten 18454 3 times in the last 24 hrs.

 

Do Ellesmere cards fold this protein accurately and reliably and that's why they get it so often?

 

Looks like they have been just assigning more BioFilm work units in the past week and not as much variety in work unit types than in previous weeks.

 

https://folding.lar.systems/gpu_ppd/brands/amd/folding_profile/ellesmere_xt_radeon_rx_470480570580590

 

 

[BiotechBen]

Just now, LAR_Systems said:

Looks like they have been just assigning more BioFilm work units in the past week than in previous weeks.

 

https://folding.lar.systems/gpu_ppd/brands/amd/folding_profile/ellesmere_xt_radeon_rx_470480570580590

 

 

 Crazy. Having studied biofilms, they ARE very interesting to study and understand.

[Lightwreather]

4 hours ago, Shlouski said:

Well...... I'm having a power cut, it wasn't even my fault for pushing too hard. 

So can I finally have my "Folding Month V: The miker07 Strikes Back" title for the next blog post?

/s

[LAR_Systems]

1 minute ago, Lightwreather JfromN said:

So can I finally have my "Folding Month V: The miker07 Strikes Back" title for the next blog post?

/s

Looks like everything is trending on track for that lol.

 

[Baha]

50 minutes ago, LAR_Systems said:

Okay, so now that my internet is back and stable...

Built out a bit of a tool for the event so you can see participants rolling 24 hour PPD including your own in case you want to try tweaking your rigs and see if it's making a difference at a glance faster than EOC reports or waiting for the end of day event report.

 

NOTE: This does not show the event TOTAL standings, this does not replace the blog post or official daily results in any way.

 

This page shows you your PPD for the past 24 based on when you're actually looking at the page...  so if you look at 3PM it's your PPD logged by F@H between 3PM today and 3PM yesterday... you look at 9AM... it's your PPD between 9AM today and 9AM yesterday etc.

 

These values may seem a little high, or a little low hour to hour as some hours F@H is going to record your hardware dumping in a bunch of WUs and others maybe only a few, so depending on what hours those are in the 24 hour cycle it can make the numbers look a little better or worse than you might expect based on the "daily" total that's provided from EOC or the event based on using the same time of day to calculate each day.

 

I have been using this tool so I can more easily see if changes I make to hardware are having a net positive or negative impact on 24 points aka PPD and the rolling window let's me make corrections or try new stuff every hour or so.

 

So this might be useful to you, it might not, it's SUPER WTF ALPHA so may not be perfect, but here ya go.

 

https://folding.lar.systems/league/

 

 

Thank you for this. I've been playing with my power limits extensively the past day or so and re-configuring server hardware, this is going to be immensely helpful to get a 'real' idea of PPD changes since I don't tend to make changes right when points are collected for the event updates.

[Slave2school]

32 minutes ago, Baha said:

Thank you for this. I've been playing with my power limits extensively the past day or so and re-configuring server hardware, this is going to be immensely helpful to get a 'real' idea of PPD changes since I don't tend to make changes right when points are collected for the event updates.

80% Power limit with curve I have on my 3080 TI is a 50w savings with about 2s per frame added time in calculations so not too bad and probably worth it for long term use.  Also runs about 6C cooler.

[BiotechBen]

It's unseasonably warm for the next two days here, I have a feeling PPD is gonna be way down for me.

[BondiBlue]

12 minutes ago, BiotechBen said:

It's unseasonably warm for the next two days here, I have a feeling PPD is gonna be way down for me.

It's been rather warm for me as well. Later today I'm planning to move my quad GPU setup downstairs to a different room that will hopefully let the heat spread out a bit more. A 630W space heater in my bedroom isn't exactly ideal with the current outside temperatures...

[Kilrah]

Yay end of work day, can quit nvidia broadcast...

 

[Alex Atkin UK]

4 hours ago, LAR_Systems said:

So this might be useful to you, it might not, it's SUPER WTF ALPHA so may not be perfect, but here ya go.

 

https://folding.lar.systems/league/

Is this punishment for sending you a PM?  I don't seem to exist on the list.

[BiotechBen]

2 hours ago, BondiBlue said:

It's been rather warm for me as well. Later today I'm planning to move my quad GPU setup downstairs to a different room that will hopefully let the heat spread out a bit more. A 630W space heater in my bedroom isn't exactly ideal with the current outside temperatures...

Yeah, 24C outside isn't great for passive cooling.

[rkv_2401]

33 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Is this punishment for sending you a PM?  I don't seem to exist on the list.

Didn't you read the disclaimer? "IT IS, WHAT IT IS"! And what it is is - you don't exist, I am just talking to myself here, AHHHH!

[miker07]

4 hours ago, LAR_Systems said:

Looks like everything is trending on track for that lol.

 

I've been having some intermittent power issues due to high winds today. No extended downtime, but enough to have to restart rigs and loosing some progress or WU's erroring out. I don't have ups's for all my folding rigs, just my primary ones. Luckily this is happening today and not during a work day. I'll take any gains I can get, but won't be able to catch up unless Shlouski has prolonged issues.

[rkv_2401]

@GOTSpectrum, we're closer but still ~30-40M short of 1 billion PPD huh?

[LAR_Systems]

41 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Is this punishment for sending you a PM?  I don't seem to exist on the list.

Yes, most of my systems operate on spite and coffee  

 

Or I used the Events results file to get peoples names, which I think are Forum names, not always folding names, I corrected a few that I knew from previous years myself, but you may be one of those lost in translation.

 

Give me your folding name and I can update the script.

[Alex Atkin UK]

10 minutes ago, LAR_Systems said:

Yes, most of my systems operate on spite and coffee  

 

Or I used the Events results file to get peoples names, which I think are Forum names, not always folding names, I corrected a few that I knew from previous years myself, but you may be one of those lost in translation.

 

Give me your folding name and I can update the script.

Spite and Coffee, basically my survival mechanism.

 

Its Alex_Atkin, not sure why I didn't make it the same, I think it might have been too many characters with the UK on the end or something.

[Gorgon]

2 hours ago, BiotechBen said:

It's unseasonably warm for the next two days here, I have a feeling PPD is gonna be way down for me.

Here too as well. 21C today and only going down to 15C overnight. Typical cooler Fall weather all week when electricity is expensive and now that the weekend is here and electricity is cheaper the temperatures go up.

 

32C in the basement so I'm pretending it's summer again and sitting at the computer in shorts.

[LAR_Systems]

20 minutes ago, Gorgon said:

Here too as well. 21C today and only going down to 15C overnight. Typical cooler Fall weather all week when electricity is expensive and now that the weekend is here and electricity is cheaper the temperatures go up.

 

32C in the basement so I'm pretending it's summer again and sitting at the computer in shorts.

My desk is beside a server rack in the basement, shorts year round in Canada gets you looks when you step outside to get the mail, take out the bins etc. 

 

This is the tech geek life.

[Gorgon]

16 minutes ago, LAR_Systems said:

My desk is beside a server rack in the basement, shorts year round in Canada gets you looks when you step outside to get the mail, take out the bins etc. 

 

This is the tech geek life.

Yeah - just hit 33C in the basement. Hopefully it will start cooling down soon. Only going down to 15C overnight here though. We do, however have a high wind warning so hopefully the electrical grid won't be impacted. All our service is underground in my neighborhood so as long as the Ontario Hydro grid is stable we should be OK.

[GOTSpectrum]

1 hour ago, rkv_2401 said:

@GOTSpectrum, we're closer but still ~30-40M short of 1 billion PPD huh?

we shall see... @Shlouskiclaims @miker07sabotaged his power or something like that 

[Gorgon]

6 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

we shall see... @Shlouskiclaims @miker07sabotaged his power or something like that 

But @Shlouski then retaliated with wind storms at @miker07

[Gorgon]

On 11/3/2022 at 7:32 PM, cbigfoot said:

Well Point Validation Complete now time for me to go and Cry in the corner that I won't have my 7900XTX before the end of the event...also waiting for the 7900x3d too to replace my 3900x...

AMD JUST

 

On 11/3/2022 at 6:43 PM, Baha said:

Assuming there are no underlying architecture, bandwidth, or bottleneck optimizations (as in, assuming folding output is just identical to the 6000 series per FLOP), that should be an increase from ~3.5m PPD to ~9-10m PPD. In reality it should be a bit higher, I would think. Maybe 11-12m PPD? Total shot in the dark.

I'm assuming it won't be the folding monster that the 4090 is, but that's still a pretty incredible generation-over-generation improvement, considering it's not pulling dramatically more power (300W vs 355W). They're also substantially cheaper than the 4000 series cards, which is great. I haven't gone with an AMD card since the R9 Fury days, but this has me very interested.

 

On 11/3/2022 at 5:57 PM, GOTSpectrum said:

We know the price, I'm not disputing that 

 

What I'm trying to say is, if hypothetically the performance only matched a 4070 card, then it really isn't very cheap as the 4070 would certainly be cheaper... you can't judge price in a vacuum of data imo

I did some calculations based on the reported theoretical FP32 performance for the new AMD GPUs and for Folding they look disappointing.

 

[Slave2school]

57 minutes ago, Gorgon said:

Yeah - just hit 33C in the basement. Hopefully it will start cooling down soon. Only going down to 15C overnight here though. We do, however have a high wind warning so hopefully the electrical grid won't be impacted. All our service is underground in my neighborhood so as long as the Ontario Hydro grid is stable we should be OK.

I like your optimism. I live near hwy 7/62 and wind and heavy rain seem to get us pretty regularly here too with at least a nice brownout.