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Well....

https://www.luriechildrens.org/globalassets/media/pages/covid-19/sensientflavors-hand-sanitizer-sds.pdf

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Ethanol

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So at 55F(12.7C) ethyl alcohol gives off enough vapor to catch fire... Let's put that in a loop and throw in a pc case with plenty of static electricity and spark potential. 

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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13 minutes ago, tkitch said:

no, it would be terrible.  Alcohol is nowhere near as good as water for that. 

Jellied isopropyl alcohol with perfumes in it, cycling around your pump, radiator, and tubing, for days, weeks, years!  What could go wrong?

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3 minutes ago, SufiSquish said:

yes but if water cooling dosent leek why would vapour

You do realize that vapor is less dense than liquid and therefor it will explode right?

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I've heard there's no such thing as a stupid question but...

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3 minutes ago, Lurick said:

You do realize that vapor is less dense than liquid and therefor it will explode right?

Helium be like 'That air tight seal can't stop me, because I'm not air!  I'll diffuse through steel walls if you give me enough time!'

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1 minute ago, SufiSquish said:

yes but if water cooling dosent leek why would vapour

You still end up with some water evaporation yeah? There's a reason there's a difference between "air tight" and "water tight"

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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5 minutes ago, Blue4130 said:

His idea to use hand sanitizer is stupid, but this comment is equally so. Putting hand sanitizer in a loop will not make it explode. 

He's talking about vapor, depending on where everything seizes up and it becomes vapor you could see some form of pop or "explosion". I'm not saying it's going to turn into a bomb, but you do you in being equally stupid as the rest of us 🙂

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This works if you have all glass tubing and solvent inert connectors.  Isopropyl alcohol which is in most all of the sanitizers is a good solvent for lots of plastics and at some point would lead to failure.  Isopropyl alcohol has a lower heat of vaporization and poorer heat capacity than water so you are potentially faced with increase pressure in your cooling system.  Any weakness in your cooling loop will lead to failure.  If you do plan on going ahead with this, build a fire extinguisher holder into your desk so that it's close by when the inevitable flame out comes.

 

It would be useful before considering this kind of experiment to finish your first year college course in chemistry.  Had you done so, you would have known the answer to the question.

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Straight vodka has worked in meme builds, temporarily. Hand Sanitizer is a diff type of alcohol AFAIK, even higher concentrate, becomes a vapor far quicker as everyone above has noted, has a shitload of additives to try and make it less harsh on your skin that would likely have the opposite effect on your loop components, and it would perform way worse than just straight up distilled water with a simple biocide or normal premix. 

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1 hour ago, Lurick said:

He's talking about vapor, depending on where everything seizes up and it becomes vapor you could see some form of pop or "explosion". I'm not saying it's going to turn into a bomb, but you do you in being equally stupid as the rest of us 🙂

And I was referring to the vapor being heavier than air. If it gives off vapor while the computer is off the fans wont be circulating air. The flammable vapor will settle at the bottom of the case. Near the PSU.

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

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The main issue would be that you have no idea how the o-rings would interact with the isopropylic alcohol. It's a solvent and you might damage them and finally end up with a leak. If you have any acrylic in your system: NEVER bring it in contact with rubbing alcohol aka isopropylic alcohol - which is the main ingrediant in hand sanitiser. Also no way of knowing how the tubing would react to higher concentrations - and if you have acrylic hard line you're doomed.

 

Alcohol in a cooling loop is not unheard of - in fact glycol is actually pretty common even in some coolant made for PC water cooling. Isopropylic alcohol however tends to evaporate very quickly and you'd have to see how fast it evaporates from your loop even when closed - water evaporates from it as well so you will loose some. And the fumes of isopropylic alcohol aren't particularly healthy in larger doses.

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and lets not forget that hand sanitzer usually has aloe vera in it to moisturize your hands.

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damn Jay posts another vid of weird cooling fluids by doing "science adjacent" (Modern Rogue folks know what i mean) and y'all go off the rails 😛 😛 

Anything with alcohol in it will eventually cause failure, either from a blown out o-ring, or the plastic degrading. Besides it wasn't as effective as water anyway so its a moot point

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Hand sanitizer is mostly alcohol, which has a low evaporation point, so your tubes would be mostly gas after running for a few hours and you would kill your pump. They'd be very clean though!

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The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

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It is great for water cooling,just make sure to buy one with some scent,so it smells nice.

Dont listen to those guys saying no,i have hand sanitiser in my PC,and it stops it from geting viruses,and most importantly your PC will be immune to COVID.

You can even turn of your Firewall and your PC will be faster 13%.

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