Stop using Chrome!

[rafe_28]

Ikik. Half the world is gonna be mad at me now but i think this is something people still dont understand. 

 

Reasons to not use Chrome:

 

1. Privacy (not anonyminity). Your data is valuable and every website you visit and google itself profit from your private data while you are Browsing the web

2. No built in Ad blockers

3. Very little security compared to other browsers

4. Speed. Chrome ends up after Vivaldi, Opera and Brave (and Firefox? Dunno rn)

 

Alternative to use is Brave with the DuckDuckGo Search Engine.

 

Reasons to use:

 

1. No data is getting sent to brave or duckduckgo as a company.

2. Fingerprinting, tracking, ad blockers etc BUILT IN the browser with no maybe even shady add ons

3. Speed. Brave is up there and going like a V8.

4. Chromium based -> extensions still work, similar layout and settings

5. Sleeker design. Brave feature some very easthetically pleasing "New Tab" Pages

6. Built in Crypto Wallets

7. Earn the crypto Currency "BAT" while browsing through voluntarely and purposely replacing blocked ads with brave ads

(8. For all you Krunker Fans out there: you get better FPS if youre still a casual browser enjoyer like me sometimes)

 

You could argue about Firefox, opera and what not but brave really does have that built in feature set that basically no other browser offers.

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, rafe_28 said:

Your data is valuable and every website you visit and google itself profit from your private data while you are Browsing the web

So... What does that have to do with me?

Great if Google can get some money from nothing at all, by nothing I mean nothing at my expense

 

2 minutes ago, rafe_28 said:

No built in Ad blockers

Extensions are useful

[rafe_28]

1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

Extensions are useful

And brave still has the same available but some better ones alr built in no effort.

2 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

So... What does that have to do with me?

Great if Google can get some money from nothing at all, by nothing I mean nothing at my expense

You saying you dont care aboit that at all? Would you like someone watch you all day whenever you browse the web? And even if you defeated me in those points there are still plenty others left

[IkeaGnome]

1 minute ago, rafe_28 said:

You saying you dont care aboit that at all? Would you like someone watch you all day whenever you browse the web? And even if you defeated me in those points there are still plenty others left

Do you use a cell phone?

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, rafe_28 said:

And brave still has the same available but some better ones alr built in no effort.

How much effort is installing it once and then forgetting about it?

 

2 minutes ago, rafe_28 said:

You saying you dont care aboit that at all? Would you like someone watch you all day whenever you browse the web? And even if you defeated me in those points there are still plenty others left

I would argue that ads showing me what I want at cheaper prices than what I would've gotten them for would be ideal, yes

[WkdPaul]

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[-rascal-]

14 minutes ago, rafe_28 said:

6. Built in Crypto Wallets

7. Earn the crypto Currency "BAT" while browsing through voluntarely and purposely replacing blocked ads with brave ads

 

 

Those two points, IMO, that is a little questionable right there.

What is Brave doing in the background, so that they are "giving" you crypto currency?

Why would I want to see ads if I'm trying to BLOCK them in the first place??

 

7 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Do you use a cell phone?

Not just that

• Facebook / Facebook Messenger... any messaging / social app
• Any Google apps (i.e. Android Auto, Maps, Drive, YouTube, etc)
• Location enabled
• Windows 10 on laptop / desktop PC .... because you are being monitored there too
• etc

[Levent]

What the title should have been: Reasons not to use chrome. I am going to keep on using chrome, thank you very much. What do we owe this PSA to?

[IkeaGnome]

1 minute ago, -rascal- said:

 

Those two points, IMO, that is a little questionable right there.

What is Brave doing in the background, so that they are "giving" you crypto currency?

Why would I want to see ads if I'm trying to BLOCK them in the first place??

 

Not just that

• Facebook / Facebook Messenger... any messaging / social app
• Any Google apps (i.e. Android Auto, Maps, Drive, YouTube, etc)
• Location enabled
• Windows 10 on laptop / desktop PC .... because you are being monitored there too
• etc

I was going to wait to touch on the rest of that until I got the "The phone doesn't track me". 

You might find this interesting though. Basically, you turn ads on and earn "Brave Tokens" which are a "crypto currency". By default, once a month your amassed tokens go to sites you view. Unless you manually change settings.

 

But this is less shady than Chrome.

[bellabichon]

It's pretty funny to me that you criticize Chrome for making money off of personalized ads and data, but isn't Brave free too? How do you think they're making their money? Are they just a completely benevolent charity organization? The whole "if it's free you're the product" slogan has been massively overused, but that's still pretty much the tradeoff. 

[Kilrah]

There have been multiple discussions about Brave's business model being pretty shady in its own way...

[trag1c]

If you want privacy, you can find it in the dictionary under P. 

 

So what data is Brave collecting? No sane company is going to pay for marketing on a platform that isn't capable of delivering target demographic ads. So you either have a company that is going to be dead once their VC money is up or they're not telling you the full story of what they're collecting.

 

Personally I am going to stick with the devil I know. 

[rafe_28]

10 hours ago, -rascal- said:

• Facebook / Facebook Messenger... any messaging / social app
• Any Google apps (i.e. Android Auto, Maps, Drive, YouTube, etc)
• Location enabled
• Windows 10 on laptop / desktop PC .... because you are being monitored there too
• etc

I dont like to admit it but i am aware of that but as of rn there is no comfortable way of getting around it. I am already dual booting win 10 and linuxmint. Using rarely any google product other than yt and my phone but even that i use less often. Ofc i turn GPS off. Messager apps are viable for staying in contact with me and my friends. So whats weird to me is that i know i can do something against it and just do it yk. But From what i have seen ya all dont care about it and thats fine. I jsut find it... concerning... that nobody gives a f about their data 

[Moonzy]

2 hours ago, rafe_28 said:

that nobody gives a f about their data

I just want to know what's so bad about them collecting my data before I jump on the hate bandwagon, so if you could educate me, that would be great

 

I did some asking around because I was contemplating on buying a quest 2, but so far I don't see anything alarming about data collection

Maybe I just don't value what I didn't care about as much as some of y'all...?

[Guest]

14 hours ago, rafe_28 said:

1. Privacy (not anonyminity). Your data is valuable and every website you visit and google itself profit from your private data while you are Browsing the web

Most of that data can be farmed via other means. Just ditching Chrome itself wont stop it and will barely put a dent in it. There are Network Devices that collect more data than chrome, many use google as a middle man.

 

14 hours ago, rafe_28 said:

2. No built in Ad blockers

Extensions are a thing. I would rather a well supported Adblock that I can fine tune, than rely on a Browser company to develop one in house that may break entire websites.

 

14 hours ago, rafe_28 said:

3. Very little security compared to other browsers

Actually in browser Securiy, Chrome is leading the way for other browsers. Without chrome we may not even have in-browser containers and process isolation. Not to mention that most browsers are built on Chromium which Chrome updates trickle down to.

 

14 hours ago, rafe_28 said:

4. Speed. Chrome ends up after Vivaldi, Opera and Brave (and Firefox? Dunno rn)

With Security comes Performance hits. All browsers have been degrading in performance over the years in favor of security and features, regardless of what benchmarks say.

 

As for Brave, they are just a shady company in general. They also do collect user data if you opt into the "Rewards" System.

 

If you want a real reason to not use Chrome and Chromium Based Browsers, they have largely taken over the browser market paving the way to basically set there own Web Standards. This gives Google the opportunity to basically push any non chromium based browser out of the browser market. Given that most browsers are built on chromium, that basically just leaves Safari (WebKit) and Firefox (Gecko)

 

Personally I use Firefox, but not for Privacy reasons. I use Firefox for the simple fact that its basically all I have ever used and it does what I want it to do.

Unless you care about Googles Web Takeover, just use whatever browser you feel comfortable with, just avoid shady ones you have never heard of.

 

[WereCatf]

15 hours ago, rafe_28 said:

6. Built in Crypto Wallets

7. Earn the crypto Currency "BAT" while browsing through voluntarely and purposely replacing blocked ads with brave ads

It's exactly crap like that why I won't be touching Brave.

[Blademaster91]

15 hours ago, rafe_28 said:

6. Built in Crypto Wallets

7. Earn the crypto Currency "BAT" while browsing through voluntarely and purposely replacing blocked ads with brave ads

I wouldn't trust Brave because of those two reasons, if you're getting crypto for "free" then they're probably tracking and selling your information even more than Chrome.

But i'll stick to Firefox, i've been using it for years and it tracks me less than Chrome does, also competition is nice even though Google has a monopoly with Chrome.

[sub68]

I have been using firefox since my laptop ditched chrome.

Also this series is very relavent.

https://m.webtoons.com/en/challenge/internet-explorer/ep-1-install-google-chrome/viewer?title_no=219164&episode_no=1&webtoonType=CHALLENGE 

[Red :)]

This guy:

Stop using Chrome!

 

Most people: (4:18)

 

[rafe_28]

what i learned is dont state my opinion in a more aggresive way than people like. ty now go use chrome

 

[Mark Kaine]

18 hours ago, -rascal- said:

Those two points, IMO, that is a little questionable right there.

What is Brave doing in the background, so that they are "giving" you crypto currency?

Why would I want to see ads if I'm trying to BLOCK them in the first place??

Agreed,  just reading it has these "features" made sure I'll never use it...

 

18 hours ago, -rascal- said:

• Facebook / Facebook Messenger... any messaging / social app
• Any Google apps (i.e. Android Auto, Maps, Drive, YouTube, etc)
• Location enabled
• Windows 10 on laptop / desktop PC .... because you are being monitored there too
• etc

Out of those I'm only using email service, win 10 ,with lots of stuff disabled,  but it still sends stuff to Billy regularly  - i suppose... err, wasn't there a thing that you can just block the Microsoft servers in your router though (that shit is too complicated for me, I can't even block msi control center lol)

 

Android and youtube...

I mean what kinda annoys me is that I have to have a google account when i want to use youtube anyway,  otherwise there would be zero reason to have one on my pc, and I would probably still use chrome,  it's just the most painles / fastest browser, with an UI that makes the most sense...

 

I did like Edge before it got chromified,  I still have it installed (the old non chrome one) but most websites don't work with it anymore,  not even mega which was what I used Edge specifically for...

 

 

So yeah,  I'm stuck with chrome,  and like everyone else with google especially on Android. 

 

 

2 hours ago, rafe_28 said:

what i learned is dont state my opinion in a more aggresive way than people like. ty now go use chrome

 

Thank you!  

 

[rafe_28]

2 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

Agreed,  just reading it has these "features" made sure I'll never use it...

The rewards you earn are not comaprable with what is earned by u watching the ads for the ad provider. And as i said. You dont HAVE TO do it. Its something what you do if you WANT to get some crypto and since someone doesnt care about watching ads why not get something back? Also u guys saying brave be shady. Well every major company is shady. Google and Microsoft and Amazon being the biggest in thag cuz they can just do whatever they want basically. They got the money, monopolys...

 

2 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

Thank you!  

Damn so should i go delete my account if you dont want me here, using social media like its supposed to be used?

[WereCatf]

11 minutes ago, rafe_28 said:

Also u guys saying brave be shady. Well every major company is shady.

And? Just because someone else is also shady doesn't mean I wanna give everyone a free pass.

[Mark Kaine]

21 hours ago, rafe_28 said:

Alternative to use is Brave with the DuckDuckGo Search Engine.

You can do that with chrome too?

 

 

28 minutes ago, rafe_28 said:

You dont HAVE TO do it. Its something what you do if you WANT to get some crypto and since someone doesnt care about watching ads why not get something back?

The point is i don't want ads,  and i don't want crypto in my browser so why support someone who promotes this? 

 

Google promotes ads too, but not as prominently and also i can just turn them off.

 

 

28 minutes ago, rafe_28 said:

Damn so should i go delete my account if you dont want me here, using social media like its supposed to be used?

I didn't say any of that lol.

[rafe_28]

14 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

You can do that with chrome too?

The major point is the google product. The search engine has very little impact on tracker blocking etc

 

15 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

I didn't say any of that lol.

You supported me, not speaking out about what i think, so might ad well delete my account 

 

16 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

The point is i don't want ads,  and i don't want crypto in my browser so why support someone who promotes this? 

Then dont enable it. Brave doesnt force u to do it. Ignore it. Jsut like i am gonna ignore this thread now and let it die since its going nowhere.