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Nice blog post by Cliffy B on why the facebook acquisition is a good thing. This complaining has gone on for long enough, time for all of you to get out of your hipster, entitled holes. VR will be mainstream despite what you want because it makes sense. Sure it'll be great for gaming, but it can do so much more.

 

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"I am all about my emotionally vested interest now." God I love Cliff Bleszinski.

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My motion is still the same, I'm merely waiting for the final product before making full judgments.

Yes, I dislike Facebook and Facebook owning Oculus, God knows everybody does, but we shouldn't make judgments until we see a product to base them on.

I just hope it doesn't kill VR, since Facebook has a thing for killing things I like.

if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you.

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OP clearly doesn't know what people are upset about...

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More importantly, they needed an ecosystem. IF their system is going to be (hopefully) a dedicated system instead of a (ugh) peripheral they need their version of whatever the app store would be. Your device is only as good as the store and community around it; if users can’t say shut up and take my money, if developers can’t post their work then the device will ultimately flounder. Facebook can assist with this sort of thing, as well as having a multi billion user reach.

 

This is the dumbest thing I've seen said yet about this whole ordeal. He's actually hoping for a Facebook-based closed ecosystem, not a peripheral you can use with your PC & existing library of games. Having it as peripheral that they support with a marketplace of apps is one thing, having it as a dedicated system is like worst case scenario from a consumer standpoint.

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I'm not worried about it being mainstream, that'd actually benefit the adoption of vr support in game engines, my concerns are a cut back product to conform to the mainstream audience. Or even changes that weaken the appeal of the product. I'm in the wait and see camp, Facebook will either be the best thing about Occulus. Or the worst

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This is the dumbest thing I've seen said yet about this whole ordeal. He's actually hoping for a Facebook-based closed ecosystem, not a peripheral you can use with your PC & existing library of games. Having it as peripheral that they support with a marketplace of apps is one thing, having it as a dedicated system is like worst case scenario from a consumer standpoint.

 

You can't use it with your existing library of games, at least not take full advantage of the system. It needs an ecosystem to help support the consumer product. As it stands now it's fine without one for developers and enthusiasts but a retail version will most definitely need a supported ecosystem of games and apps to succeed - this is uncharted territory.

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I think the threw up a little bit. I agree with you and your view of the statement.

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This is the dumbest thing I've seen said yet about this whole ordeal. He's actually hoping for a Facebook-based closed ecosystem, not a peripheral you can use with your PC & existing library of games. Having it as peripheral that they support with a marketplace of apps is one thing, having it as a dedicated system is like worst case scenario from a consumer standpoint.

 

The Rift isn't just a gaming device though. Right now it's a gaming peripheral but what about the future? It could possibly survive as a peripheral, but it might have a better chance reaching into more specialized uses as it's own thing. I'm not entirely sure if I agree with Cliffy on that part, but some combination of the two could work. It also doesn't have to be closed. Facebook is big on open source and just more open development in general so I don't think they would turn the Rift into a VR version of iOS.

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I have no respect for him, so I don't care what he thinks.

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I think what people are angry about is the rift is an enthusiasts produce by its current nature. Think about it:

Two high resolution displays

Advanced Capturing for the tracking

This isn't going to run on a device which meets the minimum spec for Facebook. If I was at Facebook I would be aiming to dumb down the device so it reached the most amount of my user base. This is the exact opposite of what the enthusiasts, like me, want.

The average Facebook user does not spent 1000's on hardware. Think what GPU you'd need to drive 2x 1080p... Whilst maintaining latency and high fps to avoid getting sick!

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I think what people are angry about is the rift is an enthusiasts produce by its current nature. Think about it:

Two high resolution displays

Advanced Capturing for the tracking

This isn't going to run on a device which meets the minimum spec for Facebook. If I was at Facebook I would be aiming to dumb down the device so it reached the most amount of my user base. This is the exact opposite of what the enthusiasts, like me, want.

The average Facebook user does not spent 1000's on hardware. Think what GPU you'd need to drive 2x 1080p... Whilst maintaining latency and high fps to avoid getting sick!

 

One display split in half. I hate to tell you this but the Rift would be a miserable failure solely as an enthusiast high-end PC gamer device. Also the Rift is not just a gaming device and I HIGHLY doubt FB is looking to sell it to their current (keyword) Facebook crowd. The Rift has the potential to make them even more money than Facebook itself and that is why they're investing it in. Gaming is nothing but the first, small, step for VR tech.

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You can't use it with your existing library of games, at least not take full advantage of the system. It needs an ecosystem to help support the consumer product. As it stands now it's fine without one for developers and enthusiasts but a retail version will most definitely need a supported ecosystem of games and apps to succeed - this is uncharted territory.

 

Its a monitor that gets strapped to your face and has motion tracking to replace the mouse. What could possibly prevent this from working on an existing library of games. All you would need is the driver to tell your GPU how to split up the images properly, which would need to be done in any case. I see no reason for an ecosystem or a marketplace, these are just excuses to suck money out of people's pockets with micro transactions and force closed source enviroments down our throats.

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I don't know who Cliffy B is and I really don't care. I will not be reading what the OP linked. I am entitled to my opinion on what happened with Oculus and I am entitled to not want to buy their product any longer. I don't need to hear what Cliffy B says on the matter whoever the **** that is.

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I don't know who Cliffy B is and I really don't care. I will not be reading what the OP linked. I am entitled to my opinion on what happened with Oculus and I am entitled to not want to buy their product any longer. I don't need to hear what Cliffy B says on the matter whoever the **** that is.

Then you'd be one of the many people on the internet who live in an echo chamber, only listening to voices that agree with you. In other words, useless.

 

OP clearly doesn't know what people are upset about...

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oh i see people are angry because its going mainstream ?

how stupid of me i thought it was because a great project was being bought by an evil company

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Dear Cliffy B:

 

When was the last time you worked on ANY game? I thought so, enough of the big corporation chearleadering already, shut the fuck up and code something.

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Lets wait and see what Master Linus and commander Slick have to say about this.

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Nice blog post by Cliffy B on why the facebook acquisition is a good thing. This complaining has gone on for long enough, time for all of you to get out of your hipster, entitled holes. VR will be mainstream despite what you want because it makes sense. Sure it'll be great for gaming, but it can do so much more.

 

/endrant

 

http://dudehugespeaks.tumblr.com/post/80832803371/riftbook

Yes... long enough... the news came out yesterday. 

 

I don't know who cliffyb is but he can suck my toes. I didn't buy an oculus becasue I want to see ads from facebook. 

 

 

Also, from the VERY first part of the article...

 

 

 

First things first - I’ve been very open with the fact that I invested in Oculus at an early round. I stand to make a very sizable chunk of money from this acquisition.

 

Yea, so... he wants us to stop bitching so he can make more money.

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Cliff Bleszinski is a moron, I hate that guy.

In case the moderators do not ban me as requested, this is a notice that I have left and am not coming back.

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I haven't been asking "where's the next facebook"  I've been asking myself WHERE'S THE NEXT UNREAL TOURNAMENT 99 YOU FUCK!

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Until we see a final product, i don't really get why everyone is so hyped up negatively. Sure, Facebook is not a gaming company but who knows what the end result might be. If you paid for a DK2, you are getting essentially that. You did not pay for a final product.

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Until we see a final product, i don't really get why everyone is so hyped up negatively. Sure, Facebook is not a gaming company but who knows what the end result might be. If you paid for a DK2, you are getting essentially that. You did not pay for a final product.

Personally I'm very sceptical to see what will occur.

 

And like others have said, I want the whole thing open source. I don't need Facebook having backdoors into my system just because I want to buy a Rift.

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Until we see a final product, i don't really get why everyone is so hyped up negatively. Sure, Facebook is not a gaming company but who knows what the end result might be. If you paid for a DK2, you are getting essentially that. You did not pay for a final product.

most people are angry solely at the fact that facebook bought it

there would be a lot less negativity if google or microsoft bought it than FB

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