The TOUGHEST Ethernet cable

[HenrySalayne]

1 hour ago, ColinLTT said:

Look no further, we have the solution for you.

Does it have a PUR mantle? Linus cutting through it with ease suggests to me it doesn't.

 

And one more thing: Powercon blue and white are not water resistant, you would need the new and improved Powercon True1 for this. Additionally it can be easily daisy chained compared to the older version.

[CrixD]

9 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Your initial post, at least the way I read it, made it sound like they couldn't shun clients or something, sorry if I read that wrong   Yes, it's 100% up to LTT who they do business with, I think part of the disagreement with a lot of people is I think (I could be wrong) there was a time when they said they would never take them as a sponsor BUT I want to emphasis I could be incorrect in my recollection of that.

 

Completely agree that P2W is a terrible thing and needs regulation but I don't think this topic is the best place to discuss

English isn't my first language, so yeah my point got a bit muddled. 

 

While LMG decides their clients (freedom of business), there is a fine line in regards to decline clients, even though they qualify for a slot - If LMG did that to every company that were a bit "shady", it could potentially harm LMG, as their relationship with the industry may sour. (That was my point)

 

I do not recall LMG state they wouldn't take RSL as a sponsor, but if I remember correctly from the revenue video, Linus stated that companies with a shady business practice wouldn't be featured on the channels - With RSL being featured, we can kinda conclude that P2W companies aren't being deemed as a major shady business practice (which in my point of view are correct, as long there isn't any clear regulations)

 

But yeah, the whole topic about P2W should be taken somewhere else

[j.son19]

1 hour ago, Lurick said:

there are people who don't care about money if it saves them even a bit of time in the end (even if it's perceived only). This is for high profile events and whatnot where you don't care about cost so long as things go as smooth as possible and you're willing to pay for the peace of mind, not for rando joe's gaming event.

Yeah that's what Linus said in the video. To me it makes sense for it be relative if productions spend thousands on high end equipment a decent cable is not going to break the bank.

[Egg-Roll]

Why were the forks in the air at 7:40? They really shouldn't be, not with people actively walking around them.

[Raidshadowshit]

The Last Bastion is fallen, We lost the war, WE lost the war. Wait perform atomic strike on permission I repeat The Last Bastion is fallen

--Dial tone--

[Nidiahk]

Seeing Linus pretending to play raid casino legends on his phone was disgusting, I understand that in January ad revenue suffers, but accepting a sponsor from a gambling company for their online slot machine veiled with a game is gross. Linus himself said they only took sponsors they believed in, look how hard a time they gave pia during the ownership change. But then LMG allowed RSL without any checks? Must have been a lot of money to sell your morals, and I think they knew how gross it was so they buried it in a cable video hoping less people would see it smh. Probably the first time Ive disliked an LTT video, come on guys, I dont mind the sponsor spots, but dont promote scam garbage.

[Spotty]

7 hours ago, itswillum said:

It's really sad that the like-dislike ratio suffers just because of the sponsor and the comments section is even more garbage than usual because they're not about the actual video. How many people actually don't like a video because they don't like the game in a sponsor spot that they can easily skip over?

I disagree. If people were complaining about a random ad YouTube served before the video then they would be stupid as that's not within the control of the YouTube channel and isn't part of the video.

People have every right to complain about baked in ads in videos. That sponsored ad was written and presented by LTT and included in their video.  If there's something in a video someone doesn't like, whether it's bad advice, clickbait, or a dodgy ad baked in to a video then people are going to click that dislike button. If people believe that LTT is endorsing something that is unethical or not in line with what they perceive to be LTTs values as a business then they are going to be unhappy about it.

 

The video on floatplane, which doesn't have the baked in ads, seemed to be received reasonabley well. 

 

The dislike ratio on the video is only around 13% currently. I actually expected it to be a lot worse. Regardless, I don't think LTT is going to be too upset over a few negative comments and dislikes for doing a raid shadow legend ad...

[Vishera]

Raid shadow legends devours another youtube channel

[Arika]

Holy shit i'm getting sick of hearing about RAID Shadow Legends, Get your free champion now with my link in the description. at this point is there anyone that HASN'T heard of that stupid game yet?

[ColinLTT]

22 hours ago, itswillum said:

It's really sad that the like-dislike ratio suffers just because of the sponsor and the comments section is even more garbage than usual because they're not about the actual video. How many people actually don't like a video because they don't like the game in a sponsor spot that they can easily skip over?

RIP me.

 

[ColinLTT]

18 hours ago, Egg-Roll said:

Why were the forks in the air at 7:40? They really shouldn't be, not with people actively walking around them.

We tied the cable around it and tried to swing from it from the wall plug, but because I had crushed the convert-a-shell adapter it didnt hold. Didn't make the cut. 

[Vishera]

3 hours ago, ColinLTT said:

RIP me.

 

It was a cool video and i didn't dislike,keep up the good work!

The sponsor is understandable despite the community's and my own disdain of this specific sponsor,without money there will be no LTT.

[Egg-Roll]

7 hours ago, ColinLTT said:

We tied the cable around it and tried to swing from it from the wall plug, but because I had crushed the convert-a-shell adapter it didnt hold. Didn't make the cut. 

It's also a good thing it didn't make the cut, if the local labor board saw you doing that in the video big trouble could have come your way, not sure if you know this or not but if someone got hurt the driver is equally to blame as the company and may have fines (potentially criminal actions) applied to them as well as the company, driver should of told Linus (or whoever asked) "no" to doing it, best part is if it is genuinely unsafe (which it was) they can't be penalized (misuse of equipment). If your neighbors saw you doing it they still can report you esp if they have video of you doing it, but you look fairly blocked by vehicles so that's unlikely. I know those forks can hold thousands of pounds but I've also seen them bend/flex as well.

 

Don't do something like that again, please. If someone does get hurt, LMG could be out of pocket of tens of thousands in fines, and a potential lawsuit, not to mention the risks to the driver as well financially/potentially legally.

 

Here is an example (trying to find anything in BCs laws is a shit show to me)

worksafebc website, not sure if this link will still work by the time you read this.

Quote

Firm: LMS Management Ltd. / General Partner of LMS Limited Partnership
Worksite: Surrey
Current amount: $44,009.33
Date imposed: August 7, 2020

WorkSafeBC attended this firm's workplace in response to an incident. A worker was using a forklift to move materials in the firm's workyard, and a second worker was riding on the outside footboard of the forklift. As the forklift made a turn, the second worker fell off and was run over by the undercarriage of the forklift, sustaining serious injuries. WorkSafeBC's investigation determined workers had been allowed to ride on forklift footboards, contrary to regulatory requirements and the manufacturer's instructions. In addition, the firm had not provided adequate instruction and training to either worker. The firm failed to ensure that only mobile equipment operators were permitted to ride the equipment, except as otherwise permitted by regulatory requirements, and failed to ensure the health and safety of its workers. These were both high-risk violations. 

Sector: Construction
Classification unit: Concrete reinforcing
Updated to: November 30, 2020

 

While the above doesn't directly apply to you based on your words, it's basically the operator willfully putting others at risk, now that's a low fine from what I've seen, fines can go up to $200,000 from a quick search. No injuries seem to be lower in dollar amount, but still substantial. Just remember since you are a media company that publishes videos your own videos can incriminate you. In Ontario fines are much worst it looks like, but safety should be #1 for all companies.

 

Edit: second page https://www.worksafebc.com/en/resources/health-safety/books-guides/safe-operation-of-lift-trucks?lang=en

Quote

•Never stand or pass under an elevated load or permit others to do so.

 

[HenrySalayne]

7 hours ago, Egg-Roll said:

Don't do something like that again, please. If someone does get hurt, LMG could be out of pocket of tens of thousands in fines, and a potential lawsuit, not to mention the risks to the driver as well financially/potentially legally.

Considering Linus' tendency to drop everything, everybody should wear safety shoes with steel toe-caps around the office. It seems like nobody has done a proper job hazard analysis yet.

[derr12]

ahem linus... *pushes glasses up* isildurs bain is the one ring.  I believe you were thinking of "The shards of Narsil".   You're welcome.

 

 

[ColinLTT]

17 hours ago, Egg-Roll said:

It's also a good thing it didn't make the cut, if the local labor board saw you doing that in the video big trouble could have come your way, not sure if you know this or not but if someone got hurt the driver is equally to blame as the company and may have fines (potentially criminal actions) applied to them as well as the company, driver should of told Linus (or whoever asked) "no" to doing it, best part is if it is genuinely unsafe (which it was) they can't be penalized (misuse of equipment). If your neighbors saw you doing it they still can report you esp if they have video of you doing it, but you look fairly blocked by vehicles so that's unlikely. I know those forks can hold thousands of pounds but I've also seen them bend/flex as well.

 

Don't do something like that again, please. If someone does get hurt, LMG could be out of pocket of tens of thousands in fines, and a potential lawsuit, not to mention the risks to the driver as well financially/potentially legally.

 

Here is an example (trying to find anything in BCs laws is a shit show to me)

worksafebc website, not sure if this link will still work by the time you read this.

 

While the above doesn't directly apply to you based on your words, it's basically the operator willfully putting others at risk, now that's a low fine from what I've seen, fines can go up to $200,000 from a quick search. No injuries seem to be lower in dollar amount, but still substantial. Just remember since you are a media company that publishes videos your own videos can incriminate you. In Ontario fines are much worst it looks like, but safety should be #1 for all companies.

 

Edit: second page https://www.worksafebc.com/en/resources/health-safety/books-guides/safe-operation-of-lift-trucks?lang=en

 

There was nothing on the forks, so no elevated load. The machine was off. Not trying to justify it, just adding context. 

[Egg-Roll]

1 hour ago, ColinLTT said:

There was nothing on the forks, so no elevated load. The machine was off. Not trying to justify it, just adding context. 

The forks can be seen as the load as they are removable tho I did misread your comment thinking something was still on them however as dumb as it may sound if you still had a cable on the forks still that is technically a load. If hydraulic failure was to happen (can happen no mater what the maintenance history on the unit is) the forks would force the mast to fall faster than if nothing was attached and would pose a larger safety issue for those close to the machine.

I'm also sure having your forks in the air is still a health and safety violation if it served no safe purpose in having them in the air (for example testing the equipment functionality is a reason). However people still shouldn't be around the machine with them in the air regardless. If a officer was there watching you do it LMG wouldn't be walking away with nothing, maybe a warning or maybe a fine (or series of) it is at their discretion as to what you get. That's the point I'm trying to make.

 

I may not live in BC but I do know what you did, claim you did or even show in the video at time stated is not allowed. Load or no load, on or off, and things get much worst if the driver with forks in the air was physically off the machine at any point which I doubt happened as he was clearly on the machine in the video the whole time. I'm assuming when you say it was off the drivers foot was off the dead man brake.

 

The last thing I want to see is someone getting hurt from a dumb idea (even if it was their own idea), if said action bankrupts LMG threw fines then that's Linus's fault for permitting it as he likely would be in the area overseeing it or have someone else within the safety team overseeing the video.

 

  

9 hours ago, HenrySalayne said:

Considering Linus' tendency to drop everything, everybody should wear safety shoes with steel toe-caps around the office. It seems like nobody has done a proper job hazard analysis yet.

They may be required to wear them around the machinery they have in the warehouse section. However that I'm unsure of. Whats fun is when the warehouse people mock the office people for violating the workplaces health and safety policies by not wearing safety shoes but $300+ office shoes.

[ColinLTT]

Well, your extrapolation is... impressive? 

[akio123008]

58 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

The forks can be seen as the load

I can see what you mean about health and safety and such but, damn this is way over the top.

 

The video just contained a forklift with the forks up. That's all. Nothing to worry about.

 

58 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

If a officer was there watching you do it LMG wouldn't be walking away with nothing

You seriously think a police officer would fine them for being in proximity to a forklift with the forks up? 

 

What about them being close to the moving cars?

What about them using a data cable to tow a vehicle on a public road (non rated towing cable anyone?)

What about the countless of other things you'd have to point out if you're going to complain about that forklift?

 

All those health and safety rules are great for people who love suing each other, but in practice, not following them doesn't automatically mean you're at risk. Especially not if you use some common sense as I do think LMG did, as I would expect from them.

 

 

[Spotty]

What an odd thing to be discussing on an LTT video.

 

I'm not familiar with Canada OH&S so I'm not going to comment on any of that.

I also noticed the mast being raised in the video and thought it was odd, since it looked like they were in front of the warehouse where there wouldn't be anything for them to lift there. I figured that the operator (Matias?) was just doing pre-operations checklist which should include fully extending the mast and full range of tilt and slide motions so I didn't think much of it. The operator was in control of the vehicle so the mast being raised isn't really that much of a concern. I did notice that he lowered it before moving the forklift which was the right thing to do. If he had driven backwards over the cable with the mast still raised it would have been an issue. If the forklift had been parked like that and left unattended with the mast raised then that would be a huge safety violation. Always park with the forks angled slightly forward and flat against the ground. Linus did seem to be too close and for safety LMG should have an exclusion zone around forklifts when in use. Pretend the forklift has COVID and keep your distance.

[Egg-Roll]

5 hours ago, akio123008 said:

I can see what you mean about health and safety and such but, damn this is way over the top.

 

The video just contained a forklift with the forks up. That's all. Nothing to worry about.

 

You seriously think a police officer would fine them for being in proximity to a forklift with the forks up?

Our health and safety officials are called officers. While you might think it's nothing I can almost guarantee if LMG submitted all videos taken involving the forklift they would likely in fact face fines if claims made are correct, likely mainly due to Linus being there permitting it to happen (they would assume he asked/demanded them too do it if not mentioned in the video). Not sure about where you live but Canada has cracked down on stuff as displayed in the clip and claims made here, you can mainly thank 15 year olds doing stupid stuff (and dying) along with companies not being smart as well back in the 90's/early 2000's. Also police can in fact interact with companies doing stuff in public view if they deem it necessary, which wouldn't apply here as the cops wouldn't have a clear view of whats happening, however if they suspect or find something out of the ordinary like say a forklift with its forks in the air in a parking lot for no obvious reason they do have the right to investigate on whats going on. They may not be able to act on it if no obvious danger to safety is visible but they would then be obligated to report it if they deem it unsafe, they obviously are not going to leave either at said time in case something happens.

 

5 hours ago, akio123008 said:

What about them being close to the moving cars?

What about them using a data cable to tow a vehicle on a public road (non rated towing cable anyone?)

What about the countless of other things you'd have to point out if you're going to complain about that forklift?

Private property, if a car goes rogue the person driving is liable via civil and criminal actions, road laws do not apply on private property here.

See above, and now that you mentioned it if the cable did snap/come loose and hurt/killed someone that's also a health and safety violation. (at which time both the above and H&S could be applied pending an investigation to figure out who was to blame)

Everything else beyond what is seen in video is based off of words given, therefore without video or pictures one can't say if Colin is lying or not, however the height of the forks go with what his claims would require.

 

6 hours ago, akio123008 said:

All those health and safety rules are great for people who love suing each other, but in practice, not following them doesn't automatically mean you're at risk. Especially not if you use some common sense as I do think LMG did, as I would expect from them.

Incorrect, these laws are not for suing (this isn't the sue happy USA), these laws are built around protection and prevention which is why the fines can be hefty. However when a incident happens it opens up the company and in places like Ontario the driver to lawsuits for damages, pain/suffering etc, and/or jail time/criminal charges. It's one thing to do stupid stunts at a normal workplace with a forklift in hopes no one will find out, it's something else to record said stupid stunts, let alone posting it online (or even thinking about it).

I don't think LMG used common sense in this case, else no one would have suggested or attempted to swing off of the forks via the cable (just because Mythbusters did it in phone book friction doesn't mean they can too, tho if you watch that clip watch Adams face), and therefore the forks would not have been in the air as shown in the video. Like I said hydraulic failure can happen at anytime on any machine, it's very rare but it can happen, so you tell me why take such a risk?

 

6 minutes ago, Spotty said:

was just doing pre-operations checklist which should include fully extending the mast and full range of tilt and slide motions so I didn't think much of it.

Truth be told if this was the reasoning behind them being up in the air I would have been fine with it as well and only question I would have is as to why the camera man was so close and think nothing else of it.

 

The number of times I've given shit to people including a few in higher positions for getting in the way even if the equipment was stopped (including a few attempting to go under forks in the air unloaded thankfully, various reason why that was including a precheck) shows the general ignorance in the workplace about this kind of equipment. However that is because they are not trained, they are not shown what people should/are shown when trained to use the equipment. They also fail to realize how heavy one of those things actually are or how little of a chance you have of survival if one falls onto you (a single fork weights around 200-300lb if I remember correctly), to anyone who wonders go find a Tesla multiply it by 2 that's how much one can weigh, sometimes more. Operating one of these machines shouldn't treated as a toy, whereas LMG is clearly treating it as one. A Case 580 Super M weighs about 5,000lb more than the average forklift how many people treat them as a toy?

 

Tho like I've mentioned I'm in a province where if someone operating one of these machines kills a person they could be thrown in jail and potentially lose everything. If one province treats it with such respect even if theirs doesn't, doesn't mean they shouldn't. There are reasons for said respect.

[akio123008]

5 hours ago, Egg-Roll said:

Like I said hydraulic failure can happen at anytime on any machine, it's very rare but it can happen, so you tell me why take such a risk?

By that logic the roof of my house can also come down any time.

 

"why take such a risk"? is just a dumb quesion because the failure rate of forklift forks is probably lower than the chance of getting hit by a bus so the next time you see someone cross the road or even just be out in proximity to a road, you may want to ask them that question too.

 

Besides, those forks won't fall down at speed if there's hydraulic failure, they'll just slowly sink down.

 

Look, it's just not realistic for anyone to get hurt here because those forks were in the air. There's just nothing to worry about.

 

5 hours ago, Egg-Roll said:

Private property, if a car goes rogue the person driving is liable via civil and criminal actions, road laws do not apply on private property here

Car parks/industrial areas are mostly part of the public road. This one is probably like that too. They're not in an LMG owned, closed off car park or something, this is (if I remember correctly from the moving vlogs) just the street in front of their office.

[longhairedfreek]

Hey those camera cables you keep breaking the connector looks like a Fischer WSO 8-pin connector pretty easy to rewire, might want to look into buying a few and rewire your own cables instead of buying new ones at $150 a pop.

 

Link to spec sheet: https://www.fischerconnectors.com/sites/default/files/specifications/tech_specs_core_series_vol1_v.2.9_11_20_0.pdf (p23, p43)

[Egg-Roll]

11 hours ago, akio123008 said:

By that logic the roof of my house can also come down any time.

It can... Unless you think gravity is fake.

11 hours ago, akio123008 said:

"why take such a risk"? is just a dumb quesion because the failure rate of forklift forks is probably lower than the chance of getting hit by a bus so the next time you see someone cross the road or even just be out in proximity to a road, you may want to ask them that question too.

Not dumb, something like only 1-5% of all workplace accidents/near misses are reported in Canada every year. Machine failures are not required to be reported if no close call/injury/property damage happens (as in it fails the daily inspection by falling half way up or refusing to go further). One machine I worked with had several failures during the time used yet that machine wasn't defective nor poorly maintained by the workers and the company. They are no different than cars some need more maintenance than others, but they all still need maintenance, and like cars can fail spectacularly (aka dangerously) and randomly. Simply put every person killed by a bus can be found threw public records, no different (now) to a person being killed by a forklift, to find every failure of a forklift in the same year is not possible because most don't need to be reported as no close calls, no damages, no injuries occurred. So no it is completely different, just because you don't hear about the 50th forklift that week that had a failure on the news doesn't mean those 50 machines never had a issue that required them to be removed from service for safety reasons. Do you hear on the news every time a car, bus or truck breaks down safely? No, but it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, hell you don't hear about every car accident on the news...

 

With your logic If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, it doesn't make a sound then.

 

11 hours ago, akio123008 said:

Besides, those forks won't fall down at speed if there's hydraulic failure, they'll just slowly sink down.

Depends, most cases your are correct however there is a chance they can fail catastrophically(tho chances are they failed to see the signs by then). No different than a office chair loosing its hydraulic pressure, it may go up if enough pressure can be had to lift it, but the second you apply weight it goes down as fast as the force against the pressure permits. I've had it happen with a chair at a work place years ago, would go up but don't sit on it or it will collapse under your weight smashing you to the wheeled base. Or in other words just because it goes up doesn't mean it won't fail, or fail later. One can take out the machine and it passes all tests, but fails right after your lunch.

 

11 hours ago, akio123008 said:

Look, it's just not realistic for anyone to get hurt here because those forks were in the air. There's just nothing to worry about.

Incorrect, it isn't unrealistic, it is unlikely, if it was unrealistic we wouldn't have laws around them about how they are to be used and by who, nor would we have the right to refuse laws as we do. It is something they should worry about esp when displaying to the world.

 

Lets just say they were able to manage to swing off the forks, nothing bad happened and posted it on youtube, ANY can report them to the local authorities, doesn't have to be me, Spotty or even you, that video currently has nearly a million views, it only takes one. A company uploading video proof of doing something stupid with equipment is the equivalent of uploading a drag race on public roads with your contact information, no ones stopping you but you really shouldn't.

 

11 hours ago, akio123008 said:

Car parks/industrial areas are mostly part of the public road. This one is probably like that too. They're not in an LMG owned, closed off car park or something, this is (if I remember correctly from the moving vlogs) just the street in front of their office.

Wrong, the most the government owns land wise is to the waterline (public records might be online showing roughly where the lines are), or in other words where their legal obligations towards plumbing/sewage ends and land owners begin. It's usually about 10 feet away from the road, not sidewalk. Also go and google map LMGs location in fact here I'll share you a picture of it. They are in what is known as a commercial condo corp. Basically a company owns and maintains the land, external structural part of the building(s), and parking lot, while collecting a monthly/yearly fee (usually a %/$ based on value or sqft) and either sells or rents the individual locations/buildings to business owners or renters. Typically police have no right to be on said private property unless called or to patronize a place, however since LMGs bay door is quite literally viewable from the public road a cop could see what they are doing from public property/road. A pedestrian could have viewed it recorded it and reported it, perfectly legal as well so long they are on public property.

https://goo.gl/maps/i4WuGTsKrGBVrji68

The 2 front trees between the signs, gov owned, those hedges? Maybe on gov land but maintained by the condo corp. In some cases (usually on main roads that have been widened) property owners land starts where the sidewalk ends, usually not. One can find the property line by looking for the water shutoff for said land around here usually.

 

It is 100% possible LMG owns the units (or some of them) at their current location. Wouldn't make much sense to own as rent is deductible as an expense but owning a building or unit of isn't.

[HenrySalayne]

7 hours ago, Egg-Roll said:

Incorrect, it isn't unrealistic, it is unlikely, if it was unrealistic we wouldn't have laws around them about how they are to be used and by who, nor would we have the right to refuse laws as we do. It is something they should worry about esp when displaying to the world.

Is it a law or a regulation in Canada? In Germany it is a regulation (DGUV Vorschrift 68 - Flurförderfahrzeuge) but you could be fined for a violation. Could you post a link to a Canadian resource?