PronHub gets cancelled by Visa and Mastercard

[Amias]

Good.

 

It's an issue too sensitive too really discuss so it gets ignored. Good on Visa and Mastercard.

[Blade of Grass]

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Facebook removed 12.4 million images related to child exploitation in a three-month period this year. Twitter closed 264,000 accounts in six months last year for engaging in sexual exploitation of children. By contrast, Pornhub notes that the Internet Watch Foundation, an England-based nonprofit that combats child sexual abuse imagery, reported only 118 instances of child sexual abuse imagery on its site over almost three years, seemingly a negligible figure.

Can we talk about this for a second? 
Facebook has 50m+ instances of child pornography per year, makes money off hosting the content (Facebook ads are displayed beside it all), and Visa/MC aren’t applying the same standard to them? 
 

That’s egregious. 

[Kisai]

1 hour ago, Blade of Grass said:

Can we talk about this for a second? 
Facebook has 50m+ instances of child pornography per year, makes money off hosting the content (Facebook ads are displayed beside it all), and Visa/MC aren’t applying the same standard to them? 
 

That’s egregious. 

 

The difference is that Facebook is gated. You need a FB account to access what are typically "friend-only" or "family-only" postings unless someone shares the actual CDN link to the file. FB is also used by video piracy services (like half the kodi-related piracy uses facebook.) So a lot of this stuff, while hosted by FB, is also not discoverable on FB unless you're "in". This is also one of those cases where "technology is actually good?" because AI facial recognition could actually find, pull and ultimately delete posts of assault and abuse without having to subject a human reviewer to it. 

 

Pornhub isn't in that business. Even if they had some kind of AI flagging system, the problem is the UGC business model. Pornhub thrives on piracy. All porn sites that are not livestreams do. All UGC sites lack sufficient moderation to prevent pirated material, and when it comes to fiction and adult content, there is no way for the AI to tell the non-con rape fantasy from the actual rape videos, aside from maybe the production value put into it. Then there is the concept of "Amateur porn" which is basically videos done with webcams and camera phones, the same tools someone who creates non-con porn would have.

 

UGC models, including sites that have their own forums, need moderators, and you can have the best rules and best posters on earth creating content, but it only takes a single bad apple to ruin the business model, and for most UGC it's not worth trying to put ads on UGC because the advertisers see it as too risky, despite forums easily being high-engagement places to place ads. Nobody moderates on a "submit and review first" basis unless they are being hired to create that content.

 

[whm1974]

1 hour ago, Blade of Grass said:

Can we talk about this for a second? 
Facebook has 50m+ instances of child pornography per year, makes money off hosting the content (Facebook ads are displayed beside it all), and Visa/MC aren’t applying the same standard to them? 
 

That’s egregious. 

Off Hand it is due to Facebook being a much larger Company and having more money then Pornhub.

[mousesnob]

17 hours ago, Mooshi said:

Who pays for porn?

Same people spend money on cam sites and these twitch girls

[Mooshi]

7 hours ago, mousesnob said:

Same people spend money on cam sites and these twitch girls

We call those "simps"

[duncannah]

They removed all unverified content today

 

Hope other sites don't get the axe

[Kisai]

5 minutes ago, duncannah said:

They removed all unverified content today

 

Hope other sites don't get the axe

https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

 

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Pornhub is removing all videos on its site that weren't uploaded by official content partners or members of its model program, a fundamental shift in the way one of the largest porn sites in the world operates. This means a significant portion of its videos will disappear. 

 

"As part of our policy to ban unverified uploaders, we have now also suspended all previously uploaded content that was not created by content partners or members of the Model Program," according to Pornhub's announcement. "This means every piece of Pornhub content is from verified uploaders, a requirement that platforms like Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Snapchat and Twitter have yet to institute."

 

I called this happening last Friday. This was exactly what I expected, and I now expect to see this start happening with other platforms.

 

Also keep in mind that:

a) Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, do rapidly proliferate copyright infringement themselves, however they have "retweet" mechanisms that have generally not required people to re-upload things when they wanted to share it

b) Youtube, Tiktok and other UGC services that deal in video have never required verifying the identity of the uploader. These services were originally created to share cat videos/meme's, and unless the platform wants to devolve back into only allowing content uploaded from iPhone cameras, that won't happen.

 

Pornhub's problem was that it simply didn't verify anything. Youtube, Twitter, Facebook, don't really either, though facebook has historically been the more egregious demander of identity information. Google/Youtube and Twitter don't care who you are because their business models weren't built on harvesting that information. That said, the way forward with UGC, be it preventing identity theft, preventing cyberbulling/cyberstalking, or preventing copyright infringement would require more than just a phone number, it requires that all services have 2FA tokens tied to an identifying device (eg a mobile phone), and no content can be uploaded without it.

 

[Ebony Falcon]

I know mam raging we t to bust o e out the other night and boom blocked out pls resub 

 

contact probiller who u sign the card with and they will set u up with brazzers for same price 

[NineEyeRon]

I see Kleenex shares have plummeted recently...

[AlTech]

20 minutes ago, NineEyeRon said:

I see Kleenex shares have plummeted recently...

I know you're joking but it's actually true .