3700X OR I9-9900K???

[lavacandy]

I only play games will be using a 2080 super the 3700x is 330 usd and the i9-9900k is 440 usd i play 1440p might go to 4k in the future but idk tbh i play Destiny BL3 Gta Hitman 2 etc.... please help i dont know if i should get the 99k and spend 110 extra or pocket it 

[lavacandy]

forgot to say i have 3000 speed ram 

[Drak3]

3700X. The slight advantage the 9900K has isn't worth the money.

[lavacandy]

3 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

3700X. The slight advantage the 9900K has isn't worth the money.

what would the fps change be 

[TheNaitsyrk]

11 minutes ago, lavacandy said:

I only play games will be using a 2080 super the 3700x is 330 usd and the i9-9900k is 440 usd i play 1440p might go to 4k in the future but idk tbh i play Destiny BL3 Gta Hitman 2 etc.... please help i dont know if i should get the 99k and spend 110 extra or pocket it 

Intel is releasing new stuff soon too. Might want to wait and see.

[TheNaitsyrk]

Just now, lavacandy said:

what would the fps change be 

If you have 144FPS in a game, the difference will be 5-10FPS tops.

[Princess Luna]

This helps seeing the gap between Zen 2 and Coffee Lake on the high end.

 

The i9 9900K is better no questions here, but worth a whole 110$ more? maybe not.

 

About you having 3000mhz memory that's fine for both but you should try tweaking the timings manually to tighten more instead of using XMP.

[Drak3]

3 minutes ago, lavacandy said:

what would the fps change be 

Most games will be <10. The few games with a bigger difference, you're already over 144hz by a good margin.

[lavacandy]

so to understand i should go with the 3700x not the i9-9900k will be able to handle next gen gpus or even a 2080ti 

 

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, lavacandy said:

so to understand i should go with the 3700x not the i9-9900k will be able to handle next gen gpus or even a 2080ti 

 

I'd say if you were buying the 2080 Ti already then the i9 9900K is justified, as seen on the video above there's real performance to be gained even at 1440p when paired with it, but if you want to stick with the 2080 Super then the R7 3700X is okay for a pick.

 

Either ways you probably won't have a reason to bother with next gen GPUs if you're buying either video cards.

[Master Disaster]

4 minutes ago, lavacandy said:

so to understand i should go with the 3700x not the i9-9900k will be able to handle next gen gpus or even a 2080ti 

 

If you mean PCIe 4 then getting the 3700X (or any Zen 2) and an X570 is currently the only way to use a PCIe 4 GPU. That will change with Intels upcoming release I believe.

[lavacandy]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

I'd say if you were buying the 2080 Ti already then the i9 9900K is justified, as seen on the video above there's real performance to be gained even at 1440p when paired with it, but if you want to stick with the 2080 Super then the R7 3700X is okay for a pick.

 

Either ways you probably won't have a reason to bother with next gen GPUs if you're buying either video cards.

so if i stay with the 2080 super get the 3700x and if i go with the 2080 ti or later on go with it get the i9-99k???

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, lavacandy said:

so if i stay with the 2080 super get the 3700x and if i go with the 2080 ti or later on go with it get the i9-99k???

Pretty much, at least in my opinion that's the senseful way to go.

[lavacandy]

2 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

If you mean PCIe 4 then getting the 3700X (or any Zen 2) and an X570 is currently the only way to use a PCIe 4 GPU. That will change with Intels upcoming release I believe.

what i was trying to say is that if i do upgrade to next gen gpus will the 3700x hold me down 

[Jurrunio]

Imo 3700x's gaming performance is more comparable to the 9700k, which the Intel CPU is still slightly faster.

 

problem will be buying a board. Either you get an older (X470) board that needs bios flashing with an older CPU and cost about the same as a good board for 9700k or 9900k, or a new (X570) board or older board with bios flashing capability without a CPU at all which cost more, sometimes enough to compensate for the CPU.

[Blai5e]

And be careful of the X570 boards... (check reviews) some are quite the dog.

[jones177]

I don't think the i9 9900k is about worth and value. Like the RTX 2080 ti it is a want. 

 

14 minutes ago, lavacandy said:

so to understand i should go with the 3700x not the i9-9900k will be able to handle next gen gpus or even a 2080ti 

 

I think you are safe with a 3700X and a 2080. For a 2080 ti I would only get the CPU with the strongest cores and that is the i9 9900k.

[m777y]

best way ---> 3600x + 2080ti

 

[lavacandy]

20 minutes ago, jones177 said:

I don't think the i9 9900k is about worth and value. Like the RTX 2080 ti it is a want. 

 

I think you are safe with a 3700X and a 2080. For a 2080 ti I would only get the CPU with the strongest cores and that is the i9 9900k.

so even if i go with the 2080ti go with the 3700x???

[5x5]

I wouldn't buy the 9900K if it were me. It runs super hot, uses near double the power of a 3700X, isn't much faster and suffers from severe security issuesm not to mention 1151 is a dead socket. Next gen Intel 14nm refresh is confirmed for socket 1200 so if you want to upgrade in two years for more cores, you have to buy a new board with intel. With the 3700X and AM4, you just update the bios and put in a 12-16 core Zen3 CPU

[5x5]

1 minute ago, lavacandy said:

so even if i go with the 2080ti go with the 3700x???

Yes. The 9900K is a space heater and power hungry. The extra heat and power it requires and generates are not worth the 4-5% performance increase. If you want to spend more money, look at a 3900X. Same price as a 9900K but absolutely murders it in multi threaded applications.

[lavacandy]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

Yes. The 9900K is a space heater and power hungry. The extra heat and power it requires and generates are not worth the 4-5% performance increase. If you want to spend more money, look at a 3900X. Same price as a 9900K but absolutely murders it in multi threaded applications.

so 3700x or the 3900x right how about the 3800x 

[5x5]

4 minutes ago, lavacandy said:

so 3700x or the 3900x right how about the 3800x 

The 3800X is a 3700X with slightly higher boost. Not worth the price difference. Get a 3700X, Enable PBO and the CPU will auto tune itself for maximum performance. PBO is usually better than any manual overclock and only takes the click of a button.

 

[jones177]

7 minutes ago, lavacandy said:

so even if i go with the 2080ti go with the 3700x???

I ran a i7 8700k at 4.8ghz on all cores with a 2080 ti along with an i7 8086k at 5ghz on all cores with 2080 ti. The performance of the i7 8700k was not good compared to the i7 8086k. The i7 8700k ran a EVGA 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra and the i7 8086k had a EVGA 2080 ti XC. Even though the i7 8700k had the better card it was crushed by the i7 8086k.

At first I thought the FTW3 Ultra was defective so I switched them out. The FTW3 Ultra out performed the XC with the i7 8080k as it should. I got rid of the i7 8700k as soon as possible.

When both computers ran GTX 1080 tis the performance of the i7 8086k was disappointing with only 3 to 5fps advantage over the i7 8700k.

Since the test sites I use got about the same results and all said the i7 8086k was not worth the extra cost I could agree with them. It only changed with the RTX 2080 ti.

 

The Ryzen 3700X may not have the performance issues my i7 8700k had with a 2080 ti but I would not like to take the chance. I have tested the i9 9900k and I know that I would have no issues with it.    

[5x5]

1 hour ago, jones177 said:

I ran a i7 8700k at 4.8ghz on all cores with a 2080 ti along with an i7 8086k at 5ghz on all cores with 2080 ti. The performance of the i7 8700k was not good compared to the i7 8086k. The i7 8700k ran a EVGA 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra and the i7 8086k had a EVGA 2080 ti XC. Even though the i7 8700k had the better card it was crushed by the i7 8086k.

At first I thought the FTW3 Ultra was defective so I switched them out. The FTW3 Ultra out performed the XC with the i7 8080k as it should. I got rid of the i7 8700k as soon as possible.

When both computers ran GTX 1080 tis the performance of the i7 8086k was disappointing with only 3 to 5fps advantage over the i7 8700k.

Since the test sites I use got about the same results and all said the i7 8086k was not worth the extra cost I could agree with them. It only changed with the RTX 2080 ti.

 

The Ryzen 3700X may not have the performance issues my i7 8700k had with a 2080 ti but I would not like to take the chance. I have tested the i9 9900k and I know that I would have no issues with it.    

This makes absolutely 0 sense. Something was seriously wrong with your 8700K

 The 8086K is a rebranded 8700K with higher clocks. It's the exact same CPU. There has been absolutely no change

 200MHz for games is mostly meaningless. You can NOT go from horrible to great by adding 200MHz. That's not how the laws of physics, thermo dynamics or silicon work. Just because you had a bricked or messed up 8700K doesn't mean making others waste money on overpriced space heaters.