Tomb Raider capped at 30 FPS for the Xbox One, PS4 40-60 FPS

[TopWargamer]

http://kotaku.com/tomb-raider-on-ps4-vs-xbox-one-an-in-depth-look-1509955379?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow

 

 

Today, they've published their first look at the next-gen versions, focusing on a frame rate comparison. During gameplay, they've got the PS4 averaging 50.98fps and the Xbox One averaging 29.84fps, with more fluctuation on the PS4 version and a more consistent but lower frame rate on Xbox One.

 

This just sad, the Xbox One's hardware age is already showing, and the console hasn't even been out for a year yet. I do find this strange though - the Xbox One consistently stayed at 30 FPS, which leads me to believe that the FPS may be locked. I dunno, but what I do know is that the PS4 is the more powerful console, so if the Xbox one's FPS isn't locked for this game, these numbers don't surprise.

 

What do you think about this?

 

EDIT: Ok, the FPS is actually locked on the Xbox One version. Why on Earth would you do this Microsoft or whoever is responsible for this?

[SSOB]

That's what you get when you use DDR3 for VRAM

[nsyedhasan]

I don't think most console gamers will really be able to tell.

[Nineshadow]

Obviously locked at 30fps.There is a hardware performance difference between the two consoles,but it's not enough for a 30fps difference.

[Cryptonite]

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Microsoft probably did it to try and prevent screen tearing, but it's still stupid.

[miyabwah]

Why would they cap it? Because of console gamers?

[dizmo]

I don't see a massive difference between the two to be honest.

[TopWargamer]

I don't see a massive difference between the two to be honest.

I can see a slight difference in the lighting, but that's all that I could make out.

[Frix]

Console peasants wont be able to tell the difference.

[warmmilk]

I don't see a massive difference between the two to be honest.

 

thats cause its a youtube vid which gets locked into 30fps either way...

[xRAGExSounDxRIOTX]

Does anyone else feel like Microsoft pays IGN and Sony pays Kotaku? 

[dizmo]

thats cause its a youtube vid which gets locked into 30fps either way...

 

Haha, that would make sense..

Honestly though when it comes down to a console I don't pick between which one has better performance. They're usually pretty close.

I can't STAND the PS controller. So I refuse to buy their console. I don't find I miss out on anything.

[Cryptonite]

thats cause its a youtube vid which gets locked into 30fps either way...

sorry, but that logic is flawed, if they differed in speed by much outside of the YT video then the PS4 version would have steadily gained more and more ground on the XBONE and later be quite a bit ahead, which did not happen.

[warmmilk]

sorry, but that logic is flawed, if they differed in speed by much outside of the YT video then the PS4 version would have steadily gained more and more ground on the XBONE and later be quite a bit ahead, which did not happen.

 

you mean as far as gameplay is concerned? as in where xbone would be at 10 seconds, ps4 would be at 15?

 

or are you trying to say something else?

[Cryptonite]

you mean as far as gameplay is concerned? as in where xbone would be at 10 seconds, ps4 would be at 15?

 

or are you trying to say something else?

that is exactly what I meant. where the PS4 at 10 seconds is where the XBONE would be at 15

[warmmilk]

that is exactly what I meant. where the PS4 at 10 seconds is where the XBONE would be at 15

 

youtube doesn't alter the timeline according to FPS.  it takes whatever vid you upload at whatever framerate and converts it to 30 fps.  if you upload a 10 second 60fps clip, it will still be 10 seconds, just at 30 fps.  thats why both the ps4 and xbox footage looks the same on the youtube vid, they're both played back at 30fps

[Cryptonite]

youtube doesn't alter the timeline according to FPS.  it takes whatever vid you upload at whatever framerate and converts it to 30 fps.  if you upload a 10 second 60fps clip, it will still be 10 seconds, just at 30 fps.  thats why both the ps4 and xbox footage looks the same on the youtube vid, they're both played back at 30fps

nevermind dude, it's midnight here so I'm too tired to convert what I want to say into english, but basically if you have a video source that is sucky and lags with a video source that is playing better and you link these two in a comparison video and then upload them onto youtube, youtube doesn't magically make the laggish video source as fast as the better quality video that ran without lag. how do you think other comparison videos are uploaded to youtube and show a difference?

 

I know the video now runs at 30 fps but you should still see lag if one of them were slower.

[warmmilk]

nevermind dude, it's midnight here so I'm too tired to convert what I want to say into english, but basically if you have a video source that is sucky and lags with a video source that is playing better and you link these two in a comparison video and then upload them onto youtube, youtube doesn't magically make the laggish video source as fast as the better quality video that ran without lag. how do you think other comparison videos are uploaded to youtube and show a difference?

 

I know the video now runs at 30 fps but you should still see lag if one of them were slower.

 

I've seen vids with graphical differences, never ones where I was able to see an FPS difference unless it was reeaally low, like 20ish or less.  and for the record, a steady 30 fps is not laggy just watching it (you may be able to tell playing it cause you can feel it through the controls), just less smooth.  why do you think Linus made vids available as torrent downloads when they made their xbone vs ps4 vs pc vids?  for exactly this reason

 

show me a vid as an example

 

 

btw, since its midnight and your tired, feel free to wait till tomorrow to respond, you don't have to stay up all night debating with me

[Cryptonite]

I've seen vids with graphical differences, never ones where I was able to see an FPS difference unless it was reeaally low, like 20ish or less.  and for the record, a steady 30 fps is not laggy just watching it (you may be able to tell playing it cause you can feel it through the controls), just less smooth.  why do you think Linus made vids available as torrent downloads when they made their xbone vs ps4 vs pc vids?  for exactly this reason

 

show me a vid as an example

 

 

btw, since its midnight and your tired, feel free to wait till tomorrow to respond, you don't have to stay up all night arguing with me

This'll be my last reply anyway, because I don't really care about this enough to go on, it's true that 30fps is laggy if hardware is pushed to the limit, but if it's a "V-sync" type thing then the input lag isn't as much, though it is there. I've done a load of tests myself and when I run the same game at 30 fps vs the same game at 50 fps, the 50 fps game takes the lead ever so slightly. Either way, anyone willing to play on a console won't feel a difference and the main focus of my reply was visuals so bringing input lag into this (which I agree might be slower on the XBONE by a bit) actually goes offtopic off of the youtube discussion we were having. There are a bunch of comparison videos on YT, search them, I might link it tomorrow if I have time, but work keeps me busy and at night I prefer doing whatever it is I want to do.

 

we're not arguing we're just debating if it were an argument it would be personal.

[Askew]

I'd like to see the percentage of torn frames from each also.

[warmmilk]

This'll be my last reply anyway, because I don't really care about this enough to go on, it's true that 30fps is laggy if hardware is pushed to the limit, but if it's a "V-sync" type thing then the input lag isn't as much, though it is there. I've done a load of tests myself and when I run the same game at 30 fps vs the same game at 50 fps, the 50 fps game takes the lead ever so slightly. Either way, anyone willing to play on a console won't feel a difference and the main focus of my reply was visuals so bringing input lag into this (which I agree might be slower on the XBONE by a bit) actually goes offtopic off of the youtube discussion we were having. There are a bunch of comparison videos on YT, search them, I might link it tomorrow if I have time, but work keeps me busy and at night I prefer doing whatever it is I want to do.

 

we're not arguing we're just debating if it were an argument it would be personal.

 

I've watched a bunch of comparison vids, and I've never noticed a lag aspect before... thats why I asked for an example of one

 

fixed the argument vs debate thing, sorry couldn't think of the proper word

[beefalo]

Haha, that would make sense..

Honestly though when it comes down to a console I don't pick between which one has better performance. They're usually pretty close.

I can't STAND the PS controller. So I refuse to buy their console. I don't find I miss out on anything.

If you haven't used the Dualshock 4 I wouldn't pass judgment on it so quickly.  It is actually very nice; possibly more comfortable than an xbox 360 controller.

[applebook]

I don't think most console gamers will really be able to tell.

 

Yeah, most of 'em peasants are used to 30 fps anyway. 

[dizmo]

If you haven't used the Dualshock 4 I wouldn't pass judgment on it so quickly.  It is actually very nice; possibly more comfortable than an xbox 360 controller.

Apparently they are really prone to excessive wear.

[deathjester]

Does anyone else feel like Microsoft pays IGN and Sony pays Kotaku? 

 

Of course they do. Both sites are laughable.

 

http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2014/01/24/tomb-raider-face-off-pc-vs-ps4/71343/

 

Left side pics looks better then the right and that is only PC Ultra at 1080p. The cave on the PS4 looks awful. My build was under 800 (black Friday), and Kotaku used shots that look nothing like what even a medium pc build can do.  Add to that you don't need a 4770k  to kill a console cpu lol. A 6300fx will do that.

 

You can match the ultra shots in that article on a 700 dollar build. Add to that? Tomb Raider on the PC is currently 8.99 on Amazon.

 

A sucker is born every minute and Kotaku and IGN cater to them. Just google "caught using PC shots" to see how these console companies have to LIE and use fraud to pander their junk. The PS4 is a 25 percent underclocked 7870, which puts it at about a 7850. The Xbox GPU is about a 7770 and not even that because it is NEUTERED with non GDDR5 for vram.

 

Look at the system bandwidth of the Xbox one. It is pathetic.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7528/the-xbox-one-mini-review-hardware-analysis/2

 

A 6300FX, r9 270 = slightly better then the PS4 and many times better then the xbox one. An I5 and a gtx 770 or 280x? Kills both. A 1440p  machine? Not even in the same league. The Kotaku article is the funniest thing I have ever seen.

 

http://kotaku.com/no-this-is-not-what-the-pc-version-looks-like-on-ultra-1508649727

 

Read the comments lol. Kotaku was busted, and busted hard.