AMD Ryzen 3000 Paired with Nvidia Turing in Upcoming Asus Laptops

[samcool55]

7 minutes ago, porina said:

https://www.ebuyer.com/864957-asus-tuf-fx505dy-rx560x-gaming-laptop-fx505dy-al006t

 

I saw the above laptop in a promotional e-mail earlier. If I were shopping for a budget gaming laptop today, I think this is interesting, 

 

AMD Ryzen R5-3550H 2.1GHz

8GB, 1TB HDD, 256GB SSD

15.6" Full HD IPS 120Hz

AMD Radeon Vega RX560X 4GB

 

£730 (indicative US$800 but comparisons across countries are always difficult).

 

For comparison, about a year ago I got a £600 laptop, 7300HQ, 8GB ram, 240GB SSD, no HD, 60Hz TN display, 1050 2GB. I'm not sure how a RX560X stacks against a 1050, but freesync IPS, more CPU threads (unknown clock) makes this interesting.

 

I guess nvidia will still be the choice for higher performing gaming laptops, at a price.

120hz IPS in a laptop is damn good, tbh for that price it even seems a bit too good to be true.

 

edit: it is too good to be true, it's just TN but marketed to have "ips-level" viewing angles and colors.

[GoldenLag]

5 minutes ago, porina said:

AMD Ryzen R5-3550H 2.1GHz

8GB, 1TB HDD, 256GB SSD

15.6" Full HD IPS 120Hz

AMD Radeon Vega RX560X 4GB

 

£730

that is one hell of a laptop at 730£. if the build quality is any good, i wouldnt care how well the rx560x stacks up. 

 

that is if the build quality is good, which im not expecting too much

[porina]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

that is one hell of a laptop at 730£. if the build quality is any good, i wouldnt care how well the rx560x stacks up. 

TPU seem to rank RX560X below a 1050 but I haven't dug into details yet.

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

that is if the build quality is good, which im not expecting too much

I'd guess it is comparable to other 15.6" budget Asus laptops. Which is to say, not that great, but does the job.

[GoldenLag]

Just now, porina said:

TPU seem to rank RX560X below a 1050 but I haven't dug into details yet.

probably is around that range, tho i want to see benchmarks using it. 

 

what laptops use it anyway? isnt it almost only apple?

1 minute ago, porina said:

I'd guess it is comparable to other 15.6" budget Asus laptops. Which is to say, not that great, but does the job.

its a gaming laptop, its what we should expect. 

[porina]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

what laptops use it anyway? isnt it almost only apple?

I haven't looked at the whole market but the specific Asus model I linked earlier has it, hence talking about it now.

[Morgan MLGman]

14 minutes ago, porina said:

https://www.ebuyer.com/864957-asus-tuf-fx505dy-rx560x-gaming-laptop-fx505dy-al006t

 

I saw the above laptop in a promotional e-mail earlier. If I were shopping for a budget gaming laptop today, I think this is interesting, 

 

AMD Ryzen R5-3550H 2.1GHz

8GB, 1TB HDD, 256GB SSD

15.6" Full HD IPS 120Hz

AMD Radeon Vega RX560X 4GB

 

£730 (indicative US$800 but comparisons across countries are always difficult).

 

For comparison, about a year ago I got a £600 laptop, 7300HQ, 8GB ram, 240GB SSD, no HD, 60Hz TN display, 1050 2GB. I'm not sure how a RX560X stacks against a 1050, but freesync IPS, more CPU threads (unknown clock) makes this interesting.

 

I guess nvidia will still be the choice for higher performing gaming laptops, at a price.

I actually have a similar laptop myself - It's an Acer Nitro 5 with a Ryzen 5 2500U & an RX 560X. The 560X is a full-fledged desktop card that has the same clocks as desktop ones and it performs a bit better than the mobile 1050 on average (it of course ranges from game to game but you get the idea). The R5 2500U once properly cooled and set to allow 25W of TDP instead of basic 15W is actually faster than the i5-8250U and matches multithreaded performance of the i7-8550U according to my Cinebench scores.

It's a shame that this chip was mainly benchmarked in ultrabooks and 2-in-1's in a 15W configuration so it's actually faster than what most benchmarks show when it's in a gaming laptop

With that said, the R5-3550H destroys everything ULV from Intel so I'd expect it to be on par with the 7700HQ CPU in terms of CPU performance.

[porina]

2 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

With that said, the R5-3550H destroys everything ULV from Intel so I'd expect it to be on par with the 7700HQ CPU in terms of CPU performance.

Probably fairer to compare within a power class, with all the problems that brings in also. That R5 is listed as a 35W part, whereas a spot check on some Intel HQ CPUs suggests they're 45W with an option to limit to 35W.

[Morgan MLGman]

Just now, porina said:

Probably fairer to compare within a power class, with all the problems that brings in also. That R5 is listed as a 35W part, whereas a spot check on some Intel HQ CPUs suggests they're 45W with an option to limit to 35W.

Yeah, I know. It's just hard to compare the 3550H to something current from Intel because they've moved over to hexa-cores for their TDP-unlocked parts so I deliberately compared it to the 7700HQ in performance, I think it should perform similarly.

[Morgan MLGman]

25 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

not sure why i thought of that question actually ,_, was wondering if anyone made a discrete-only GPU in a laptop recently, then i remembered the point of iGPs (low-power and simplicity)

Yeah - exactly, this would make no sense in a laptop It would also potentially make the laptop completely useless if the dGPU died, let alone issues like the increased heat and power consumption

[Trixanity]

2 hours ago, _Syn_ said:

Ryzen 7 2700U has a 15W TDP though, what's up with that? that's why I said Zen+ doesn't seem to scale down well

I don't understand what point you're trying to make?

 

3700U also has a 15W TDP.

H series processors are meant to have higher TDP to maintain higher average clock speeds. 

[.Apex.]

2 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

I don't understand what point you're trying to make?

 

3700U also has a 15W TDP.

H series processors are meant to have higher TDP to maintain higher average clock speeds. 

I wasn't aware the 3700U was available i thought they just changed their naming scheme since it's 2.1-2.3Ghz Base clock for the H series.

I wasn't making a point I was asking and speculating

[mr moose]

AMD and Intel don't use the same definition for TDP, you can't compare them.  In fact if the processor in a laptop performs to it's full capacity then TDP means nothing to a consumer (regardless of brand).  E.G There are much clearer ways to determine battery life than trying to calculate it from TDP.

 

 

Also I hope this R5 3550  performs better than my i5 3550.

 

 

[Brooksie359]

5 hours ago, VegetableStu said:

has AMD done mobile CPUs that aren't APUs so far? o_o general question

They have put desktop chips in laptops. Dont know if that counts though. 

[yolosnail]

If AMD made an 8 core laptop chip (which should be possible with Zen 2), and it was paired with something about as powerful as a 1050Ti (be it Nvidia or AMD) then that would make the perfect laptop for me

[cj09beira]

8 minutes ago, yolosnail said:

If AMD made an 8 core laptop chip (which should be possible with Zen 2), and it was paired with something about as powerful as a 1050Ti (be it Nvidia or AMD) then that would make the perfect laptop for me

there is one like that, though its a thick boy 

https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-series/predatorhelios500

https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/ROG-Strix-GL702ZC/overview/

 

[mrthuvi]

7 hours ago, fasauceome said:

First gen Ryzen already beat Intel in efficiency, even a small double digits increase is very significant, especially for a laptop, considering battery life.

Not in mobile. I have read plenty of reviews of battery life on ryzen laptops. Intel's offerings convincingly beat ryzen on efficiency in all of them. 

[cj09beira]

25 minutes ago, mrthuvi said:

Not in mobile. I have read plenty of reviews of battery life on ryzen laptops. Intel's offerings convincingly beat ryzen on efficiency in all of them. 

that was due to a problem where the rest of the system would not enter lower power states, this gen should fix that 

[Nocte]

8 hours ago, _Syn_ said:

35W TDP for a 4 core? that's odd.. Zen+ doesn't seem to scale down well

It's still an APU though, not just a CPU with the average Intel graphics.

[mr moose]

8 minutes ago, Nocte said:

It's still an APU though, not just a CPU with the average Intel graphics.

APU is basically just a name, There isn't much an APU can do that The Intel counterparts can't.

[Brooksie359]

3 hours ago, mr moose said:

APU is basically just a name, There isn't much an APU can do that The Intel counterparts can't.

I mean I sorta get what you are saying because it is just a name and serves the same function as an Intel CPU with integrated graphics. That being said the graphics performance on their APUs are alot more capable tbh. 

[schwellmo92]

12 hours ago, _Syn_ said:

Ryzen 7 2700U has a 15W TDP though, what's up with that? that's why I said Zen+ doesn't seem to scale down well

That's just the artificial limit AMD sets on the processors, you could run the 3750H at 15w and it would perform equal (except for the small improvements of Zen vs Zen+). The chip with the 35w limit will just be able to maintain boost clocks on the CPU and GPU higher.

[williamcll]

kind of dissappointing to see these chips lacking the cores ryzen is commonly known with.

[Doobeedoo]

Cool and all but yeah these are Zen+ even though naming is different.