[CPU] Non-overclocking Gaming build

[Hattori Hanzo]

Hi,

I'm looking into building a gaming system.

I don't want to overclock it.

I have been looking into the i7-8700.

On this Page: https://m.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

I found the ryzen 7 Pro 2700 ranked higher. But it's cheaper.

Now I don't think Gaming could make use of the extra cores of the ryzen.

 

I would spend about 2000 Euros for the System. (Maybe more)

 

I want to avoid spending Money on unlocked cpus / extra cores / overclocking chipsets if I don't use it.

 

Any advice /Better fitted cps for a noob?

 

Thank you.

[Mister Woof]

Locked I7-8700 is going to be much faster at gaming than a locked (I mean stock, not OC, locked at factory settings) 2700

 

But maybe just buy the 2600x; it is cheaper than both and if you aren't going to OC it will game better than a locked 2700 nonx

[Bruno_A]

6 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

Locked I7-8700 is going to be much faster at gaming than a locked 2700

 

But maybe just buy the 2600x; it is cheaper than both and if you aren't going to OC it will game better than a locked 2700 nonx

The RYZEN 7 2700 is not locked. In fact, all RYZEN CPU's are unlocked, X and non-X CPU's.

[Slottr]

- Get the 8700k anyway, as it has faster base clocks

- the 2700 and 2700x are both unlocked

 

Intel chips will give you better per core performance which will give better performance in games

[Mister Woof]

23 minutes ago, bruny06 said:

The RYZEN 7 2700 is not locked. In fact, all RYZEN CPU's are unlocked, X and non-X CPU's.

I'm well aware; howered the OP specifically said he doesn't want to OC. That's semantics and misses the point of my post, which you obviously ignored.

 

If run at stock settings (locked was perhaps wrong wording) the 2600x will all core to around 4ghz whereas the 2700 nonx will only do around 3.5ghz.

 

Even in lightly threaded loads, the 2700nonx will drop off to 3.6ghz at 2 threads whereas the 2600x will be at 4.1-2 at 2 threads.

 

That 500mhz deficit will show up in games esp. at lower resolutions.

[Princess Luna]

8 minutes ago, Slottr said:

Get the 8700k anyway, as it has faster base clocks

Which is 100% meaningless since both the i7 8700 and i7 8700K have identical all cores turbo boost of 4.3ghz which is the expected frequency both should run on appropriated motherboard and cooling.

 

OP the i7 8700 is still on top 5 best gaming processors there is, you can pair a 2080 Ti with it and be happy being honest and it'll game better than any Ryzen processor, in fact it's an over all better CPU than any Ryzen offering unless you have a very specific need for the extra cores (video editing/rendering ain't one of it as the i7 is faster thanks to iGPU acceleration).

 

So what you should do if you're 100% set on not overclocking is buy 2x8gb(16gb) of memory in dual channel, I advise 2666mhz one as it's the maximum b360 chipset boards can work with.

 

Buy any decent b360 board and an aftermarket cooler like a Hyper 212X, Gammax400, any decent but still cheap aftermarket cooler since the stock Intel one is both extremely loud and inefficient to the point you might lose the turbo boosting.

 

The rest is rest, get a reliable PSU (never cheap on it) and your GPU of choice, a small SSD for OS and core applications and a HDD for games, and you're golden.

[Slottr]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Which is 100% meaningless since both the i7 8700 and i7 8700K have identical all cores turbo boost of 4.3ghz which is the expected frequency both should run on appropriated motherboard and cooling.

Ohdamn, thought the 8700 had lower turbo. TIL

[Mister Woof]

If you don't intend to OC and you go Ryzen do not get the nonx; you are going to eat as much as 500mhz if you do (it can be overcome with OC, but you don't want to do that). You rarely see single/dual core turbo and you're usually at all-core boost most of the time. So realistically, it's 4ghz vs 3.5ghz.

 

Obviously I'd recommend getting the 2600/2700 and a good cooler+ OC, but lol

 

I have OC my wife's 1600 to 3.8 all core (400mhz above the stock all-core boost, and 100mhz above the single core xfr)

 

[Hattori Hanzo]

Wow that was Quick.

Thank you very much.

[Mister Woof]

3 hours ago, Hattori Hanzo said:

Wow that was Quick.

Thank you very much.

NP - but what's your aversion to overclocking?

[Hattori Hanzo]

On 3/26/2019 at 8:03 PM, Plutosaurus said:

NP - but what's your aversion to overclocking?

I'm not completely firm on that part jet.

I'm still in the phase of making lists of components that might (or might not) fit together.

 

My thought process was that I could save some money on cpu and mainboard.

Buying an unlocked CPU and not overclocking feels like a waste to me.

And I'm not sure if I need it/ it works out.

I don't want to run into instabilities. I prefer to have a healty distance do that.

 

I'm rambling about stuff I don't know enough about. sry