Despite rumors of low sales, Apple states iPhone XR is current best-selling iPhone | 2018 iPhones selling even worse than expected?

[79wjd]

17 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

Even with monthly plans its still like what, $70+ a month plus the cost of your data plan? or you just buy it out at $1000. 

 

Why is this even a surprise a cheaper mostly complete phone is selling better?

In the US, prices are generally spread across two years -- so the xs works out to $41~ while the XR works out to $31~. Plus the cost of service (where the service cost probably averages to something like $40/line).

[DrMacintosh]

15 hours ago, Canada EH said:

Apple can state whatever they want, but we need independent facts because all the women in the world know for a fact I am the best lover in the entire universe.

 

So yeah, need independent links to back up any claims made.

You are aware that Apple is a publicly traded company and what the investors can do to Apple if they are caught lying? 

[DrMacintosh]

37 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

Even with monthly plans its still like what, $70+ a month plus the cost of your data plan? or you just buy it out at $1000. 

 

Why is this even a surprise a cheaper mostly complete phone is selling better?

iPhone XR costs like $31/m prior to your data plan. 

[Zando_]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

iPhone XR costs like $31/m prior to your data plan. 

^^^ And it's $55 or so for my 256GB iPhone X, which is a $1300 phone. 

[DrMacintosh]

Also one thing to add, this has historically always been the case but, every time a new iPhone is announced, the models that get the most hate are usually the ones that sell the best in the end. 

 

Now you could make the argument that, “oh well iPhone sales overall are down so this is still bad” and you might have something there....but the whole point of the hate on the XR was that it was a bad phone and would flop being sold next to the XS and XS Max. The truth is, it sold the best. 

[D13H4RD]

It's probably not surprising. Not just because of the price but also because one of them looks like a banana color-wise. 

 

 

[Brooksie359]

12 hours ago, xtroria said:

Following what goodbytes said, google just has a severe short term vision in many of their products.

 

Even in 2018, android fragmentation is still very real and google simply focuses on quantity vs quality. 

 

I own XS Max and my dad owns note 9. Every time i use his phone it always feels like the app interaction just isnt as smooth and the UI always has little pause here and there.

 

If i’m spending $400-500 on a phone, i would settle on a phone that’s function over beauty but at $1000 it needs to be both functional and do the tasks gracefully for all the features they provide

The XS looks bad. If I am paying $1000 for a phone it better have a headphone jack and no horrendous notch. 

[Brooksie359]

23 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

You are aware that Apple is a publicly traded company and what the investors can do to Apple if they are caught lying? 

You can spin without lying. They said it was selling better than their other phones which doesn't tell us much unless we have the numbers for how the other phones are selling. 

[DrMacintosh]

16 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

You can spin without lying.

Not sure how you can spin what Apple said without it being flat out lying. The phone is either selling more than the others or it isn't. 

[Brooksie359]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Not sure how you can spin what Apple said without it being flat out lying. The phone is either selling more than the others or it isn't. 

It seems like they are spinning it as the phone is selling well. That is whay some would take it as but that isn't what they said. 

[AlTech]

1 hour ago, mynameisjuan said:

Even with monthly plans its still like what, $70+ a month plus the cost of your data plan? or you just buy it out at $1000. 

 

Why is this even a surprise a cheaper mostly complete phone is selling better?

No idea where you live but here it's around £40 per month including Data in the UK. 

 

It might just be the US Carriers not providing decent subsidies or discounts for phones.

[DrMacintosh]

14 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

It seems like they are spinning it as the phone is selling well. That is whay some would take it as but that isn't what they said. 

I don’t think you even know what they said. 

[Brooksie359]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I don’t think you even know what they said. 

They said it was the most popular amount their phones. That means nothing about sales other than relative sales. 

[mynameisjuan]

7 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

No idea where you live but here it's around £40 per month including Data in the UK. 

 

It might just be the US Carriers not providing decent subsidies or discounts for phones.

I saw it somewhere are year or so ago but thought it must have been separate. 

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

They said it was the most popular amount their phones. That means nothing about sales other than relative sales. 

They didn’t disclose anything about actual sales. All they said was that the XR was selling better relative to other iPhones. 

 

Stop placing imaginary goal posts that constantly move. 

[Brooksie359]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

They didn’t disclose anything about actual sales. All they said was that the XR was selling better relative to other iPhones. 

 

Stop placing imaginary goal posts that constantly move. 

People speculate that it isn't selling well and then they make that statement. It sounds like they are trying to make it seem like it is selling well to me. 

[Blademaster91]

It sold more well than other models because the others start at $1,000 but still poorly compared to previous phones. Yeah not surprising Apple tries to spin it into something positive as a PR move.

[xtroria]

8 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

The XS looks bad. If I am paying $1000 for a phone it better have a headphone jack and no horrendous notch. 

If you want to be 6 months behind the update, be my guest.

 

Saying XS looks bad is basically saying everything else is a slab of poo

[Brooksie359]

1 hour ago, xtroria said:

If you want to be 6 months behind the update, be my guest.

 

Saying XS looks bad is basically saying everything else is a slab of poo

No it isn't. The XS looks bad along with all other phones with notches. Look at the s9 and you will see a nice looking phone. Or even look at the iPhone 8 if Apple is your fancy. All the notch BS looks just awful. Normally they say there is no such thing as a bad idea when trying to invent new products. This makes me question that. If I heard someone bring up that idea I would fire them from that position.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

9 hours ago, D13H4RD said:

It's probably not surprising. Not just because of the price but also because one of them looks like a banana color-wise. 

 

[D13H4RD]

50 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

 

Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring 

Banana phone! 

 

Ding dong ding dong ding dong ding 

Banana phone! 

 

I got this feeling 

SO APEELING 

 

[abazigal]

On 11/29/2018 at 9:40 AM, Canada EH said:

Apple can state whatever they want, but we need independent facts because all the women in the world know for a fact I am the best lover in the entire universe.

 

So yeah, need independent links to back up any claims made.

 

Other factors to consider are if its the total number of units or the net or gross.

So many ways to spin the #'s to make headlines!

You all do know that websites like Mixpanel exist, right?

https://mixpanel.com/trends/#report/iphone_Xs

 

So if we assume that adoption rate is a suitable proxy for sales, then yes, we can deduce from the graph linked above that the XS Max is outselling the XS, and that the Xr's adoption has been exceeding every other iPhone model in the current line. 

[xtroria]

1 hour ago, Brooksie359 said:

No it isn't. The XS looks bad along with all other phones with notches. Look at the s9 and you will see a nice looking phone. Or even look at the iPhone 8 if Apple is your fancy. All the notch BS looks just awful. Normally they say there is no such thing as a bad idea when trying to invent new products. This makes me question that. If I heard someone bring up that idea I would fire them from that position.

 

I’ll take the notch over having a bezel that can be used for something more useful.

 

The notch is there because it needs to pack sensors and the left over area is simply used for more screen so the phone can have more vertical area. 

 

Large notch size in iPhone is also caused by a second speaker whose output is almost as loud as the primary speaker.

 

My XS Max is smaller than note 9 while having larger screen

[D13H4RD]

18 minutes ago, xtroria said:

My XS Max is smaller than note 9 while having larger screen

Not entirely, no. 

 

It's slightly shorter but also wider. The XS Max is about roughly the same physical size as the iPhone 8 Plus, which I have used regularly before, alongside my daily driver Note8. 

 

Having used the XS Max and Note9 side by side, that's my experience with them. 

[xtroria]

14 minutes ago, D13H4RD said:

Not entirely, no. 

 

It's slightly shorter but also wider. The XS Max is about roughly the same physical size as the iPhone 8 Plus, which I have used regularly before, alongside my daily driver Note8. 

 

Having used the XS Max and Note9 side by side, that's my experience with them. 

I think is ever so slightly smaller than 8 plus