threadripper Asus Zenith Extreme

[MorganO]

Just now, NumLock21 said:

Threadripper will have 64 lanes from the cpu.

64+4?

[Clanscorpia]

Just now, KOMTechAndGaming said:

the point is that ALL thread ripper cpus have 60 regardless

All i9s will have 60+ ? 

[The Benjamins]

1 minute ago, Clanscorpia said:

Intel will x299 has more PCIe lanes though??? The chipset has 24 and the 10 core has 44 so even the lowest i9 has more PCIe lanes

NO it doesn't, the 24 lanes off the chipset is running though a 4x ish link so you can add devices but it is bottle necked like hell.

The CPU I/O is 48 vs 64 were intel gives 4 to a chipset that can give "24" more

[Dash Lambda]

Just now, Clanscorpia said:

Intel will x299 has more PCIe lanes though??? The chipset has 24 and the 10 core has 44 so even the lowest i9 has more PCIe lanes

Lanes from the chipset are different, at best they're limited to the x4 interface the chipset has to the CPU. TR has 60 full lanes to the CPU, X299 has 44 lanes to the CPU, both have a chipset that adds connectivity for less demanding devices like storage, USB, and network adapters. I don't know how many lanes come from TR's chipset.

[Clanscorpia]

1 minute ago, Dash Lambda said:

Lanes from the chipset are different, at best they're limited to the x4 interface the chipset has to the CPU. TR has 60 full lanes to the CPU, X299 has 44 lanes to the CPU, both have a chipset that adds connectivity for less demanding devices like storage, USB, and network adapters. I don't know how many lanes come from TR's chipset.

Im very interested in how many people will need the PCIe lanes for 3 16x graphics cards on the 10 core. Im fairly sure the 12/14/16 cores will have more than 44 lanes to the CPU

[MorganO]

5 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

All i9s will have 60+ ? 

nope they top out at 44 from the CPU

the 6 and 8 core have 28 from the CPU

the point amd is making or my theory, regardless of the cost of the TR cpu ALL have 60 directly from the cpu even the lowest price thread ripper cpu has 60 where as the cheapest x299 cpu has 16 then the 6 and 8 core cpus have 28 then the 10+ core ones have 44

 

this would allow me to buy the cheapest threadripper cpu that fits my needs, still enjoy the features of the top end 16c32t cpu but just have fewers cores

[The Benjamins]

Just now, Clanscorpia said:

Im very interested in how many people will need the PCIe lanes for 3 16x graphics cards on the 10 core. Im fairly sure the 12/14/16 cores will have more than 44 lanes to the CPU

Intel has 0 dies that have more, they are using the MCC Xeons and they have 44 lanes just like the HCC xeons.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11461/intel-announces-basin-falls-the-new-highend-desktop-platform-and-x299-chipset

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The DMI link also changes, moving from DMI 2.0 speeds in X79/X99 to DMI 3.0 speeds in X299 to mirror the consumer platforms. As mentioned above, this is practically the same as a PCIe 3.0 x4 link, but at least the HEDT platforms now get to play with higher bandwidth.

 

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Clanscorpia said:

Im very interested in how many people will need the PCIe lanes for 3 16x graphics cards on the 10 core. Im fairly sure the 12/14/16 cores will have more than 44 lanes to the CPU

Unfortunately, no. They are based off of Xeon Golds and Platinums, which have 48 PCIe lanes:

https://ark.intel.com/products/120482/Intel-Xeon-Gold-6128-Processor-19_25M-Cache-3_40-GHz

[captain cactus]

28 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Actual Threadripper cpu hiding in 2nd pic.

sneaky

[Dash Lambda]

Just now, Clanscorpia said:

I'm very interested in how many people will need the PCIe lanes for 3 16x graphics cards on the 10 core.

Graphics devices aren't the only things that use PCIe. For a gaming machine, no, you shouldn't really even need much more than the 16 lanes on the consumer platforms let alone 44/60 on the enthusiast platforms. But for workstations where you need as much GPU horsepower as possible, systems where you need a lot of fast storage or extremely high-bandwidth network connections, and many other use cases, it's very useful. For me personally, I see it as an open door, having enough lanes to fill up my machine gives me way more options and far fewer things to worry about down the road.

 

5 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

I'm fairly sure the 12/14/16 cores will have more than 44 lanes to the CPU.

Based on what? Intel can't magically add more lanes without changing the die or platform.

[Sauron]

The socket looks normal until you compare it to the pcie slots LUL

[Coaxialgamer]

42 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

Intel will x299 has more PCIe lanes though??? The chipset has 24 and the 10 core has 44 so even the lowest i9 has more PCIe lanes

x299 tops out at 44 pcie lane . that's a limitation of the chip . Xeons also have 44 pcie lanes max.

You're also adding latency by using the chipset lanes. 

60/64 pcie lanes direct from cpu is available on every single chip , and you don't need to spend >1000$

[EnergyEclipse]

Oh, my, actual goodness. That has more adapters in it than even Linus has in his backpack!

 

Dual 8 pins <3

[Deli]

Give me a Matx work station board, please.

[wrath]

Wow....just....wow !!!

[leadeater]

2 hours ago, Clanscorpia said:

Im very interested in how many people will need the PCIe lanes for 3 16x graphics cards on the 10 core. Im fairly sure the 12/14/16 cores will have more than 44 lanes to the CPU

No they don't, not even the Xeons they are based off of do. Intel has 44 lanes for Skylake-SP/X, there isn't any more lanes coming this is it.

[leadeater]

2 hours ago, Clanscorpia said:

Im very interested in how many people will need the PCIe lanes for 3 16x graphics cards on the 10 core. Im fairly sure the 12/14/16 cores will have more than 44 lanes to the CPU

I use two GPUs (32 lanes), might want 4 NVME (16 lanes), and I have a 10Gbe NIC (8 lanes). 32 + 16 + 8 = 56 so cutting close even on TR so if I add anything else I could exceed 60 lanes dropping some slots down, if they don't already depending on how motherboard makers assign lanes to slots based on what is populated like they do now on every Intel board because they have to.

[Drak3]

1 hour ago, leadeater said:

I use two GPUs (32 lanes), might want 4 NVME (16 lanes), and I have a 10Gbe NIC (8 lanes). 32 + 16 + 8 = 56 so cutting close even on TR so if I add anything else I could exceed 60 lanes dropping some slots down, if they don't already depending on how motherboard makers assign lanes to slots based on what is populated like they do now on every Intel board because they have to.

Watch me fill 124 lanes of an EPYC octocore witb NVMe drives, and have an HD7750 is the remaining 4.

[MoonlightSylv]

On a side note, is that a sound card?

[NumLock21]

12 minutes ago, ShadowTechXTS said:

On a side note, is that a sound card?

It's 10gbe lan. Sound is onboard.

[Guest]

that ram tho

[Misanthrope]

4 hours ago, Jaxzzzzz said:

How many lanes will threadripper have again?

All of them.

[kaiju_wars]

32 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

All of them.

I see what you did there

 

[Jito463]

5 hours ago, deXxterlab97 said:

not even a ROG SLI bridge? hmm

Looks like one to me (under the spoiler tag).

5 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

5 hours ago, Clanscorpia said:

Intel will x299 has more PCIe lanes though??? The chipset has 24 and the 10 core has 44 so even the lowest i9 has more PCIe lanes

As @Dash Lambda already pointed out, the 24 from the chipset on X299 will be effectively limited to x4 (same as what TR offers from their chipset).  Meaning the 10+ core chips will have an effective 48 PCIe lanes (68 actual) versus 64 on TR.

[Billy_Mays]

Too good but it looks nice (I may get the lowest end threadripper just for the board for an editing rig)