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AMD announces their new Ryzen Pro series of Desktop CPUs

 

Following the success of the Ryzen series and on the heels of the Epyc launch AMD readies yet another series of processors: the Ryzen Pro series. The difference this time is that this is directly targeting the corporate/enterprise environment workstations and seems to be focusing on security:

 

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hese new CPUs will offer Windows 10 Enterprise Security support, AES 128-bit memory encryption and a 36-month warranty. 
 
AMD's Ryzen Pro series CPUs will come with similar designs to their existing Ryzen desktop series CPUs, with comparable clock speeds and additional enterprise-grade features. 

 

AMD announces their new Ryzen Pro series of Desktop CPUs

 

Personally it's a shame that promoting this encryption features seems to be not nearly enough these days with so many vulnerabilities, ones that were known to government agencies, pop out everyday but  AMD evidently thinks this is still an important feature to target the enterprise consumer. At this point it is not clear if they have the higher end SKU of the 1800 or 1800x with the offerings topping at the 1700x instead but since clockspeeds aren't necessarily the central focus it seems to be a reasonable way to proceed forward

 

Here's a few charts with the SKUs and how they plan to match them vs intel offerings:

 

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Also on the Anantech article we can find a bit more info on the security features:

 

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To explain what TSME is, it makes sense to refer to AMD’s Zen memory encryption technologies in general. The Zen microarchitecture features two important technologies: Secure Memory Encryption (SME) and Secure Encrypted Virtualization (SEV) that protect data in DRAM using a dedicated AES-128 engine.

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When data is stored on storage devices, it is usually encrypted, but when it is being processed on a CPU or temporarily stored in RAM, it is almost never is, leaving open the possibility of snooping these unprotected areas. As the name suggests, Secure Memory Encryption encrypts content of DRAM in a bid to eliminate data snooping by unauthorized programs or administrators (this is more likely to happen in a server/datacenter environment, but still). This feature will be particularly important for NVDIMMs going forward as they store data even after unplugged from their hosts.

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The SME encrypts data when it is written to DRAM and decrypts it when it is read. The AES-128 key is generated by a NIST SP 800-90-compliant hardware RNG and then managed by the AMD-SP hardware (thus, in a secure environment only). Although a dedicated engine performs the encryption/decryption, the process still takes time and thus adds latency to memory accesses. AMD claims that the actual performance impact is not significant, but we will have to test it ourselves before making any conclusions of our own. AMD’s Zen microarchitecture supports full and partial memory encryption for cases when performance is a concern. The one downside to this is that both partial and full encryption modes will require OSes and software to be modified in order to work properly.

More practical for daily workstation use is AMD’s Transparent SME mode. As the name impies, Transparent mode is transpartent to OSes and programs, and thus be used with legacy software. Transparent SME mode stil encrypts DRAM completely, and this mode can be enabled from BIOS. At this point Transparent SME is the only type of SME supported by the Ryzen Pro, but AMD’s EPYC processors support all of them.

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Source: https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd_announces_their_new_ryzen_pro_series_of_desktop_cpus/1

 

 

 

EDIT: Source #2 thanks to @The Benjamins 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11591/amd-launches-ryzen-pro-cpus-enhanced-security-longer-warranty-better-quality


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If the heat spreader is actually black that is str8 dope. Also security is huge for companies. There are just a handful of laptops that support the encryption and security companies need so you see a ton of the same laptops all over. 


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Just now, BuckGup said:

If the heat spreader is actually black that is str8 dope

People would complain that AMD being racist and never produced a black chip before /s

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Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

People would complain that AMD being racist and never produced a black chip before /s

I'd make a black spreaders matter joke but that seems to have many other connotations. 


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Sooo basically it's normal Ryzen processors with some extra features and stuff?

 

I'm wondering if these are overclockable and available to anyone. If so, why buy normal Ryzen CPUs when you can just get these?

 

Also interesting is now we basically know the specs of the Ryzen 3 1300 and 1200 :P 


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The R3 Pro and assumed non Pros look nice low end chips.

 

here is AnandTechs article http://www.anandtech.com/show/11591/amd-launches-ryzen-pro-cpus-enhanced-security-longer-warranty-better-quality

 

Nice to see Ryzen Mobile is expected Q3 and hope it pop ups soon.


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1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Sooo basically it's normal Ryzen processors with some extra features and stuff?

 

I'm wondering if these are overclockable and available to anyone. If so, why buy normal Ryzen CPUs when you can just get these?

 

Also interesting is now we basically know the specs of the Ryzen 3 1300 and 1200 :P 

True, yet do you need 128 bit processor encryption?


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Just now, DocSwag said:

Sooo basically it's normal Ryzen processors with some extra features and stuff?

 

I'm wondering if these are overclockable and available to anyone.

I won't mind paying more for extras but not overclock. Who needs it anyway right

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1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

I won't mind paying more for extras but not overclock. Who needs it anyway right

Justing at least by the prices on Anandtech, Ryzen pro will cost about the same as the normal Ryzen CPUs hence why I'm wondering.


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1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

I won't mind paying more for extras but not overclock. Who needs it anyway right

Why would they lock it. and they stated in the past all Ryzen CPU's will be unlocked and this is a Ryzen CPU so I would assume it is unlocked.

The only new AMD CPU that is not under the Ryzen name is Epyc.


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If you could add a bit more info to the post that'd be nice :P kinda like numlock did in his, giving the cpu's and specs/features etc.

 

 

 


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3 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

That IHS :o <3 If its really black looks sexy AF

If the IHS is black, I may buy a Ryzen Pro instead of a 7800X :P (Only if they are unlocked)


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1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

If the IHS is black, I may buy a Ryzen Pro instead of a 7800X :P (Only if they are unlocked)

I would expect them to be since it was said that all Ryzen CPU's will be unlock and this AFAIK falls under the Ryzen name.

also for what reason do they have to lock it.

 

Are these using the same socket (AM4) and boards? or will it need a specific board?

If you can put it in a B350 or X350 board I expect it can be overclocked.


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2 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

Are these using the same socket (AM4) and boards? or will it need a specific board?

If you can put it in a B350 or X350 board I expect it can be overclocked

Nothing so far suggests otherwise. Would be effort to design a new socket for what is essentially the same chip. Though they can lock it in the microcode so its no guarantee. But still I see nothing to indicate they aren't unlocked.

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7 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

Are these using the same socket (AM4) and boards? or will it need a specific board?

2 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Nothing so far suggests otherwise. Would be effort to design a new socket for what is essentially the same chip. Though they can lock it in the microcode so its no guarantee. But still I see nothing to indicate they aren't unlocked.

They are using AM4:

https://www.amd.com/en/ryzen-pro

(Thanks to @NumLock21 for finding the link :P)


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Official press release

https://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-ryzen-pro-2017jun29.aspx

 

  • 36 months commercial warranty compared to 12 months limited consumer warranty.
  • Commercial grade wafer for long term reliability

What does these even mean?

So ryzen only has 1 year warranty vs 3 years for Ryzen Pro or this applies to OEM where it always has been 1 year warranty. Now with ryzen pro, even oem gets 3 years.

 

Commercial grade wafer? So Ryzen non pro gets crappy wafer? 

 

At least they  also have XFR so maybe it's also unlocked!?

Unlock please!

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Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

wait how did you have to FIND that link? the link is generic and it comes up on google first page when searching for ryzen pro

Idk, I just found that link in his thread :P


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amd is being very smart about this launches, because its all the same die, by waiting a few months to release the commercial, enterprise and server chips they are able to fix any problem that might have risen before the release of these markets where reliability is important

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1 minute ago, cj09beira said:

amd is being very smart about this launches, because its all the same die, by waiting a few months to release the commercial, enterprise and server chips they are able to fix any problem that might have risen before the release of these markets where reliability is important

ya, this year is a BIG year in releases for AMD.

 

They still have Ryzen Mobile, Ryzen Pro Mobile, R3, ThreadRipper, RX Vega, Vega Pro, Ryzen APU (desktop) to release. 


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