rumor has it nVidia discontinued production for GTX970, 980 and 980Ti GPUs - to be replaced with Pascal chips this June

[zMeul]

source: http://www.hwbattle.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=news&wr_id=18732

 

take this with a teaspoon of salt, but .. hmm .. I could see it happening

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Currently, all NVIDIA AIB partners of the GeForce GTX 970/980 / 980Ti series production has been discontinued,  no longer supply the chipset from NVIDIA. 

 

The initial product launch are all the reference product and the mainstream (GTX 1070) Class AIB partners of the cooler only designs products that are released about two weeks late
Adopted and will be released immediately.

• GTX 980Ti will be replaced by a Pascal GP 104-400 GPU and will be available on both reference and custom board designs
• GTX 980 will be replaced by GP 104-200 will be available on both reference and custom board
• GTX 970 will be replaced by GP 104-150 and will be available only is on a custom board, nVidia appears that they won't release a reference card

both the 980Ti and 980 replacements would be available early June, while GTX970 replacement will be available ~2 weeks later

 

if this is true, that means those "leaked" GTX980 and GTX970 shroud pics were fake?!

it could also mean that some AIB partner will prepare their own custom designed shrouds for a blower style cooling solution

 

 

[iamdarkyoshi]

Just now, zMeul said:

 

Currently, all NVIDIA AIB partners of the GeForce GTX 970/980 / 980Ti series production has been discontinued,  no longer supply the chipset from NVIDIA. 

 

The initial product launch are all the reference product and the mainstream (GTX 1070) Class AIB partners of the cooler only designs products that are released about two weeks late
Adopted and will be released immediately.

That is literally the worst chinglish I have read in quite a while.

[zMeul]

11 minutes ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

That is literally the worst chinglish I have read in quite a while.

it's a google translate from a korean source .. what did you expect?! perhaps I should've posted the original text 

 

have at it:

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현재 모든 NVIDIA AIB 파트너사들의 지포스 GTX 970/ 980 / 980Ti 시리즈 생산은 중단 되었으며, NVIDIA에서 더 이상 해당 칩셋의 공급을 하지 않습니다.

 

초기 출시 제품들은 모두 레퍼런스 제품이며 보름 정도 뒤늦게 출시되는 메인스트림급(GTX 1070) 급의 제품만 AIB 파트너사들의 쿨러 디자인을
채택하고 바로 출시 됩니다.

 

Edited April 15, 2016 by zMeul

[iamdarkyoshi]

Just now, zMeul said:

it's a google translate from a chinese source .. what did you expect?! perhaps I should've posted the original text 

Yup. Chinglish

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

5 minutes ago, zMeul said:

it's a google translate from a chinese source .. what did you expect?! perhaps I should've posted the original text 

 

have at it:

 

 

That's not chinese. That's korean. 

[duncanbullet]

1 minute ago, Pohernori said:

 

That's not chinese. That's korean. 

its obviously German.... 

[Morgan MLGman]

Just now, Pohernori said:

 

That's not chinese. That's korean. 

REKT

[SLAYR]

This is to be expected that nvidia would stop making the 970, 980 and 980ti because they are being replaced, but these will still be sold a few years from now because the manufacturers have large supplies of the chips already, and it is just that they are going to stop production of those in order to make the new cards.

 

This isn't really news as much as an observation of how the manufacturers operate.

[DevilishBooster]

2 minutes ago, SLAYR said:

This is to be expected that nvidia would stop making the 970, 980 and 980ti because they are being replaced, but these will still be sold a few years from now because the manufacturers have large supplies of the chips already, and it is just that they are going to stop production of those in order to make the new cards.

 

This isn't really news as much as an observation of how the manufacturers operate.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that figured that out....

[zMeul]

6 minutes ago, SLAYR said:

This is to be expected that nvidia would stop making the 970, 980 and 980ti because they are being replaced, but these will still be sold a few years from now because the manufacturers have large supplies of the chips already, and it is just that they are going to stop production of those in order to make the new cards.

 

This isn't really news as much as an observation of how the manufacturers operate.

this isn't as much as current lineup being discontinued but as indication Pascal is coming

 

also, an observation: Titan X replacement isn't in - could be that nVidia is planning to equip the Pascal GPU with HBM2 ?!

 

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AMD is planning to release their lower tier offerings 1st, while nVidia seems not to - GTX950, 960 would stay on the market for quite a while

[klh2000]

9 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

 

That's not chinese. That's korean. 

Kringlish! 

[dalekphalm]

I'll see it when I believe it. All other rumours are pointing to the "980 Ti" replacement coming out potentially not until Q1 2017 even. They might stop manufacturing the chips themselves now, if they have a large enough stockpile to meet expected demand, but that literally means nothing about when Pascal is coming out.

 

Possible? Sure. But I remain highly skeptical.

[Moonzy]

28 minutes ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

Yup. Chinglish

kor-lish*

 

别侮辱华人`-`

[Daegun]

17 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

I'll see it when I believe it. All other rumours are pointing to the "980 Ti" replacement coming out potentially not until Q1 2017 even. They might stop manufacturing the chips themselves now, if they have a large enough stockpile to meet expected demand, but that literally means nothing about when Pascal is coming out.

 

Possible? Sure. But I remain highly skeptical.

It's not something to be that doubtful of, they did it with the 700 to 900 series transition. Stopped production of all 700 series cards in September, paper launch of 970/980, then the actual launch a couple months later. It would be right in line with that.

[dalekphalm]

2 minutes ago, Daegun said:

It's not something to be that doubtful of, they did it with the 700 to 900 series transition. Stopped production of all 700 series cards in September, paper launch of 970/980, then the actual launch a couple months later. It would be right in line with that.

Big difference though - they were just launching a new revised architecture on the same node and the same memory technology.

 

Now they're launching on a brand new node, with new memory (Both GDDR5X and HBM2.0). And all indications point that HBM2.0 is in very very low supplies. All indications so far point that NVIDIA is reserving as much of it's HBM2.0 supply as it can for HPC/Compute, since that is a very profit friendly market for them.

 

So unless they launch the "1080 Ti" with GDDR5 or 5X, I doubt we'll be seeing it anytime soon.

[Fetzie]

39 minutes ago, zMeul said:

this isn't as much as current lineup being discontinued but as indication Pascal is coming

 

also, an observation: Titan X replacement isn't in - could be that nVidia is planning to equip the Pascal GPU with HBM2 ?!

 

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AMD is planning to release their lower tier offerings 1st, while nVidia seems not to - GTX950, 960 would stay on the market for quite a while

HBM2  won't magically appear for Nvidia half a year  before amd gets it on a card. Mostly because of the need to manufacture chips, which isn't happening until q3.

[VagabondWraith]

I like this news, but the "true" successor to the 980 Ti won't launch til next year. The card "replacing" the 980 Ti now is a medium sized die; much like the 980 beating the 780 Ti, this fully enabled GP104 chip would roughly be equal to or surpass the 980 Ti.

[Master Disaster]

44 minutes ago, klh2000 said:

Kringlish! 

Kim Jong Unglish

[Daegun]

7 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

Big difference though - they were just launching a new revised architecture on the same node and the same memory technology.

 

Now they're launching on a brand new node, with new memory (Both GDDR5X and HBM2.0). And all indications point that HBM2.0 is in very very low supplies. All indications so far point that NVIDIA is reserving as much of it's HBM2.0 supply as it can for HPC/Compute, since that is a very profit friendly market for them.

 

So unless they launch the "1080 Ti" with GDDR5 or 5X, I doubt we'll be seeing it anytime soon.

They won't be launching the big dogs any time soon, this is just the lower tier cards. No one plans on seeing Vega/Big Pascal until around the end of this year at the earliest. The cards thought to launch in June-July are small Pascal and Polaris with small die sizes. And while yes, this is a different node, everything points to regular GDDR5. GDDR5X production doesn't ramp up until June, so it wouldn't make it in time and HBM 2 doesn't have the yields for both companies either and would only be put on their stronger cards.

[Master Disaster]

1 minute ago, Daegun said:

They won't be launching the big dogs any time soon, this is just the lower tier cards. No one plans on seeing Vega/Big Pascal until around the end of this year at the earliest. The cards thought to launch in June-July are small Pascal and Polaris with small die sizes. And while yes, this is a different node, everything points to regular GDDR5. GDDR5X production doesn't ramp up until June, so it wouldn't make it in time and HBM 2 doesn't have the yields for both companies either and would only be put on their stronger cards.

Yup, all the rumourmill stuff is pointing to regular old GDDR5, at least for the first revision. Maybe they'll do a Rev 2.0 with GDDRX in the future?

[zMeul]

1 hour ago, Fetzie said:

HBM2  won't magically appear for Nvidia half a year  before amd gets it on a card. Mostly because of the need to manufacture chips, which isn't happening until q3.

what does AMD has to do with HBM2 ?! absolutely nothing

[Fetzie]

Just now, zMeul said:

what does AMD has to do with HBM2 ?! absolutely nothing

There is no HBM for either company before Q3. Therefore the summer releases for both come will have GDDR5 or GDDR5X.

[zMeul]

10 minutes ago, Fetzie said:

There is no HBM for either company before Q3. Therefore the summer releases for both come will have GDDR5 or GDDR5X.

you completely missed the point of what I was saying . but, whatevs 

[MEC-777]

Didn't we already know this? It's all over tech sites lately that Nvidia and AMD will be releasing brand new cards in and around Computex 2016. Obviously both companies with be ramping down and stopping production on current products to make way for the new ones. This whole thread is kind of pointless. Sorry.  I don't mean any disrespect. 

[dalekphalm]

36 minutes ago, zMeul said:

you completely missed the point of what I was saying . but, whatevs 

He didn't miss the point, you just misunderstood his original point. He was simply pointing out that we can expect both AMD and NVIDIA get get ahold of HBM2.0 in high volume (Enough to support consumer GPU's) at around the same time - which is - so far - slated for around Q32016.

 

So that made him (and others) skeptical about the exact details of this "leak". Supply of HBM2.0 is limited in general, not just to AMD or NVIDIA specifically, but both of them.