X570 Aorus Master,Pro,Ultra,Elite difference?

[frozensun]

Hey friends.

Can someone please explain me what is the difference between such boards except price.

I suppose in VRM Phase count.

Which board would I need for 3700X or in the future plan to upgrade to 3900X?

[Eighjan]

Aside from component quality, I can offer this:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/YTWBD3,fHxbt6,nHxbt6/

[Stahlmann]

The main difference is the VRM design. Mind that not only phase count matters tough. Any of these will easily handle the 3700x and 3900x so pick the one least espensive that has all the features you need.

[eeeee1]

anything x570 is compatible with 3rd gen ryzen

 

[Mateyyy]

The Elite is (or at least was before B550 and the X570 Tomahawk) really competitive in its price range, I don't get the point of the Pro, the Ultra's not a great deal when you can get an X570 Unify for similar or less money, and the Master is really good but you probably don't need that high-end of a motherboard.

What's your budget for the motherboard?

[Eighjan]

On paper it looks like RAM compatibility & slot count are the main diff's.

[frozensun]

 

Around 300 euros...Master don't sell here so it's out of equasion.

Ultra looks very cool.

Visual ispection of Elite,this MB looks very poor with components.

Problem is I never had any board except Asus,and dunno,a friend message me few days ago telling me that his X470 from Gigabyte died,and I noticed here a lot of problems with their boards for AMD.

I went to raisonjon list and specs of all these boards and I'm just looking at VRm design and seems to me correct me if I am wrong they all share same VRM components.

Personally I'd go for Crosshair Hero VIII but wouldn't give here 500 euros for that board...

So is Gigabyte good with X570,mates?

[frozensun]

Just now, frozensun said:

 

Around 300 euros...Master don't sell here so it's out of equasion.

Ultra looks very cool.

Visual ispection of Elite,this MB looks very poor with components.

Problem is I never had any board except Asus,and dunno,a friend message me few days ago telling me that his X470 from Gigabyte died,and I noticed here a lot of problems with their boards for AMD.

I went to raisonjon list and specs of all these boards and I'm just looking at VRm design and seems to me correct me if I am wrong they all share same VRM components.

Personally I'd go for Crosshair Hero VIII but wouldn't give here 500 euros for that board...

WI-FI is a plus but not required...

And I'm a big fan of RGB effects on boards but all these boards have very poor RGB effects that come with it.

So is Gigabyte good with X570,mates?

 

[frozensun]

Just now, Mateyyy said:

The Elite is (or at least was before B550 and the X570 Tomahawk) really competitive in its price range, I don't get the point of the Pro, the Ultra's not a great deal when you can get an X570 Unify for similar or less money, and the Master is really good but you probably don't need that high-end of a motherboard.

What's your budget for the motherboard?

can you explain me why Unify is better board ?

[Jurrunio]

All of them would handle a 3900x, let alone a 3700x.

 

Elite, Pro and Ultra are based on the same PCB and share the same VRM, just different matter of populating it. Elite has flat heatsinks, Pro gets more grooves on it and Type C at the back, Ultra gets a 3rd M.2 slot. They are really not that different, so the Ultra's ultra pricing makes it stand out as one of the worse options from Gigabyte's lineup.

 

2 minutes ago, frozensun said:

So is Gigabyte good with X570,mates?

Good but not the best from any angle. TUF and some premium B550 boards are stronger for lower budgets, Tomahawk is better on the high end (for the Elite/Pro/Ultra).

[Wingfan]

I have the Elite with a 2600, and its fine>
Components are good 

 

[frozensun]

Thank you Jurrunio.

I forgot to mention that it must have POST LEDs for troubleshooting and BIOS FB button.

Start and reset switches are optional to me.

Woow I'm just looking at MEG Unify which is around 320 euros,looks very cool but particulary I'm not a fan of MSI at all except love their graphics card.

I'd personally go for Phantom Gaming X and I remember time when AsRock was great and cheap,but sadly now Asrock overpriced even Gigabyte so Phantom Gaming X is her over 350 euros...

[frozensun]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

All of them would handle a 3900x, let alone a 3700x.

 

Elite, Pro and Ultra are based on the same PCB and share the same VRM, just different matter of populating it. Elite has flat heatsinks, Pro gets more grooves on it and Type C at the back, Ultra gets a 3rd M.2 slot. They are really not that different, so the Ultra's ultra pricing makes it stand out as one of the worse options from Gigabyte's lineup.

 

Good but not the best from any angle. TUF and some premium B550 boards are stronger for lower budgets, Tomahawk is better on the high end (for the Elite/Pro/Ultra).

I don't get you mate,stop advertising B550 which I don't want B for Bullshit,midrange B550 is same cost as cheaper X570 and I'd always chose X570 because it's chipset who gives more for same buck even if I maybe won't use those options in future.

Thank you for your response and guys who explained me here,but I was very clear with name of the topic.

[Haro]

4 minutes ago, frozensun said:

I'm not a fan of MSI at all except love their graphics card.

Why's that ? 

The unify is one of the better x570 boards 

Don't look at the brand 

Look at the actual product

[Mateyyy]

12 minutes ago, frozensun said:

can you explain me why Unify is better board ?

The Unify is the X570 ACE minus all the RGB - stronger power delivery, 2.5Gb LAN, better BIOS (arguably), POST code instead of hard to read tightly packed debug LEDs (which is quite awful considering the Ultra is a $300 board) and onboard power and reset buttons (though these could be considered kind of niche).

 

Off the top of my head, what the Ultra does have over the Unify is dual BIOS (though the Unify has BIOS flashback so the likelihood of you actually requiring a second BIOS because you bricked the first or whatever are really slim), and a couple more rear USB ports (though the Unify already has more than enough imo).

[frozensun]

Just now, Wingfan said:

I have the Elite with a 2600, and its fine>
Components are good 

 

Can anyone tell me why do these boards look so poor,look at Elite,I see naked PCB in more then 3 places all over board.

You should take a look at my Rampage V,there is no single part of the board which is not covered with electronics

[Jurrunio]

5 minutes ago, frozensun said:

Thank you Jurrunio.

I forgot to mention that it must have POST LEDs for troubleshooting and BIOS FB button.

Start and reset switches are optional to me.

Woow I'm just looking at MEG Unify which is around 320 euros,looks very cool but particulary I'm not a fan of MSI at all except love their graphics card.

I'd personally go for Phantom Gaming X and I remember time when AsRock was great and cheap,but sadly now Asrock overpriced even Gigabyte so Phantom Gaming X is her over 350 euros...

MSI X570 is fine on the high end and Tomahawk

 

PG X is expensive but it's mostly Taichi with makeup.

[frozensun]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Why's that ? 

The unify is one of the better x570 boards 

Don't look at the brand 

Look at the actual product

Dunno,didn't watch and see all those crazy youtubers ever build with MSI boards...I'm not sure why...

Whats so special with Unify compared to those Gigabyte I mentioned?

I can see the PCB looks okay,I must look at VRM design at raisonjohn sheet.

I like post LEDs.

[frozensun]

I don't see POST LEDs in Elite so Elite is out of equasion too.

Not having POST LEDs at board sucks so bad,it's not very helpful when you have issues but it might help sometimes...

I will take a look at Unify later and maybe choose that one,who knows.

I must look at POST LEDs which of these boards have and FB button.

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, frozensun said:

Whats so special with Unify compared to those Gigabyte I mentioned?

It's really good considering it's price 

 

3 minutes ago, frozensun said:

can see the PCB looks okay

How can you visually see that ?

 

3 minutes ago, frozensun said:

must look at VRM design at raisonjohn sheet.

It's good

[frozensun]

OH I forgot to mention one very important thing,compatibility with my RAM which is Corsair Vengeance PRO RGB 3200 MHz 2x8GB

[Eighjan]

2 minutes ago, frozensun said:

OH I forgot to mention one very important thing,compatibility with my RAM which is Corsair Vengeance PRO RGB 3200 MHz 2x8GB

That's what the QVL lists - on the manufacturer's web pages - help with... but are not always gospel about.

Remember to factor in the CL timings, when checking the lists...

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, frozensun said:

I don't get you mate,stop advertising B550 which I don't want B for Bullshit,midrange B550 is same cost as cheaper X570 and I'd always chose X570 because it's chipset who gives more for same buck even if I maybe won't use those options in future.

Thank you for your response and guys who explained me here,but I was very clear with name of the topic.

B550 may have a B in the front but it's a mix of low end to high end. It's not like B450 where the best one can only compete with the low end of X chipset. X570 on paper has more features, but the board vendor can always cut away some to seperate cheaper ones from more expensive ones which is exactly what happened to say, the TUF or Aorus Elite on X570.

 

It's fine if you want X570 for whatever reason, maybe you just like the name, but it's my responsibility to judge them objectively

 

3 minutes ago, frozensun said:

I don't see POST LEDs in Elite so Elite is out of equasion too.

Not having POST LEDs at board sucks so bad,it's not very helpful when you have issues but it might help sometimes...

I will take a look at Unify later and maybe choose that one,who knows.

I must look at POST LEDs which of these boards have and FB button.

Post code is an expensive feature these days, barely anything below $300 carries one (even B550 with post code are essentially X570 high end boards with a different chipset).

 

4 minutes ago, frozensun said:

OH I forgot to mention one very important thing,compatibility with my RAM which is Corsair Vengeance PRO RGB 3200 MHz 2x8GB

All of them work with it, tho I think MSI software has the deepest integration with Corsair products.

[mariushm]

Elite is cheap and has very good VRM and good heatsinks that keep the VRM cool even with high power consumption cpus. 

At that price, a PLUS is that it has usb type c header (10 gbps) for the front panel of the case ... few boards at that price point have it.

 

The other Gigabyte boards add a THIRD pci-e slot so you can have 2 pci-e x8 (the Elite has x16 + x4 from chipset) and enable SLI for which you pay nVidia license costs ... that's what adds to the x570 Pro price. You also pay more for the Pro for that extra m.2 heatsink ... you're complaining about the motherboard of Elite being bare but you forget that's where the costs are cut and that's why the board is cheaper.

Yeah... you also get ALC 1220 for sound, instead of ALC1200 - but ALC1200 is good enough.

 

The Master adds a 2.5 gbps network card and a 3rd m.2 connector. 

 

--- You're complaining about B550 and calling it names ... but really the only difference between the x570 Elite and a similar B550 motherboard would be that the 2nd M.2 connector and the pci-e x4 and x1 slots are pci-e 4.0  - on B550 boards, those slots would be pci-e 3.0

ABSOLUTELY no other difference whatsoever ... decent B550 boards will have 2.5 gbps network (the elite has good intel 1gbps) , will have alc1200 or alc1220 for sound, similar VRM..

 

For example GIGABYTE B550 AORUS PRO  has 2.5g lan, has alc1220 (so better than x570 elite), has 3 pci-e x16 slots , has two m.2 heatsinks .. but probably loses the usb 10g header for the front panel... and it's cheaper .. so it's a better value.

[frozensun]

And as for BIOS and settings guys,which is the most user friendly?

I've watched a lot of Carrey Holzman videos and he likes the most Gigabyte BIOS after Asus..I must tell I like it too,and Asrocks looks so poor because I have Asrock 990 FX old board.