Rx 5700 or RTX 2060 super

[ALEKSANDAR87990]

Hello guys.I wanna buy new gpu.I can't decide betwen rx 5700 red devil and rtx 2060 super Igame colorful ultra v8.Which will be better buy.Rx costs me 390e and rtx 380e.

[5x5]

The 5700 is a bit faster and has more VRAM. The Red Devil is also a top tier cooler

[ALEKSANDAR87990]

3 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

The 5700 is a bit faster and has more VRAM. The Red Devil is also a top tier cooler

Dont they have same amount of vrm 8gb?

 

[F.E.A.R.]

The RX 5700 gives you the same performance as the RTX 2060 Super, but I'm surprised that the RX 5700 costs 10€ more than the RTX 2060 Super, usually it's the other way around. Also the Red Devil is the best RX 5700 model PowerColor Red Devil Radeon™ RX 5700 8GB GDDR6.

[F.E.A.R.]

Just now, ALEKSANDAR87990 said:

Dont they have same amount of vrm 8gb?

 

Yes both have 8GB of VRAM.

[5x5]

2 minutes ago, ALEKSANDAR87990 said:

Dont they have same amount of vrm 8gb?

 

Yeah, misremembered vram

[ALEKSANDAR87990]

But is the Igame colorful good brand? 

[DailyProcrastinator]

12 minutes ago, ALEKSANDAR87990 said:

Hello guys.I wanna buy new gpu.I can't decide betwen rx 5700 red devil and rtx 2060 super Igame colorful ultra v8.Which will be better buy.Rx costs me 390e and rtx 380e.

Where are you located? The RX 5700XT can often be found for less than the 2060S. 

[Boomwebsearch]

If you don't need the ray-tracing support, get the RX 5700XT or even RX 590 if you are working with a limited budget, they offer much better value (price to performance) than current generation Nvidia RTX graphics cards.

 

Would recommend getting the 8GB of video memory version at least either way; links to good price to performance graphics cards:

 

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Radeon-Rx-590-RX-590P8DLD6/dp/B07TK37HPW?ref_=s9_apbd_simh_hd_bw_b1C5u&pf_rd_r=3ZTW661HH251ZTJ2VCWP&pf_rd_p=9f76675e-ed2f-5abf-a244-94c505073fb3&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-10&pf_rd_t=BROWSE&pf_rd_i=284822

 

https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Triple-Dissipation-Graphics-RX-57XT83LD8/dp/B087J3KM2X/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=5700+xt&qid=1589313572&s=electronics&sr=1-19

[ALEKSANDAR87990]

48 minutes ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

Where are you located? The RX 5700XT can often be found for less than the 2060S. 

Im from Serbia.My psu is just 550w antec vpf 80+ bronze

[ALEKSANDAR87990]

42 minutes ago, Boomwebsearch said:

If you don't need the ray-tracing support, get the RX 5700XT or even RX 590 if you are working with a limited budget, they offer much better value (price to performance) than current generation Nvidia RTX graphics cards.

 

Would recommend getting the 8GB of video memory version at least either way; links to good price to performance graphics cards:

 

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Radeon-Rx-590-RX-590P8DLD6/dp/B07TK37HPW?ref_=s9_apbd_simh_hd_bw_b1C5u&pf_rd_r=3ZTW661HH251ZTJ2VCWP&pf_rd_p=9f76675e-ed2f-5abf-a244-94c505073fb3&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-10&pf_rd_t=BROWSE&pf_rd_i=284822

 

https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Triple-Dissipation-Graphics-RX-57XT83LD8/dp/B087J3KM2X/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=5700+xt&qid=1589313572&s=electronics&sr=1-19

Im just want for gaming but isn't rx 590 much slower than both? 

[5x5]

15 minutes ago, ALEKSANDAR87990 said:

Im just want for gaming but isn't rx 590 much slower than both? 

Yes, don't waste money on that

[Boomwebsearch]

2 minutes ago, ALEKSANDAR87990 said:

Im just want for gaming but isn't rx 590 much slower than both? 

 

A Radeon RX 590 is often found at around $30 cheaper than something in a comparable price range such as the 5500 XT while offering better performance and overclocks much better for upto 20% faster performance. Although, you can't be fair in comparing it to a RTX 2060S or 5700 XT since is is almost double the price point. It is a good price to performance graphics card, although yes, a 5700 XT or RTX 2060 Super would have greater performance.

 

9 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Yes, don't waste money on that

I wouldn't call the RX 590 a waste of money, many system builders can't afford more expensive cards and may not have the option of buying used/refurbished hardware. For a new budget-friendly graphics card, a RX 590 would be a good deal at $180 or even possibly less.

 

What games are you planning to run and at what frame rate with wanted settings?

[KaitouX]

37 minutes ago, Boomwebsearch said:

A Radeon RX 590 is often found at around $30 cheaper than something in a comparable price range such as the 5500 XT while offering better performance and overclocks much better for upto 20% faster performance. Although, you can't be fair in comparing it to a RTX 2060S or 5700 XT since is is almost double the price point. It is a good price to performance graphics card, although yes, a 5700 XT or RTX 2060 Super would have greater performance.

 

I wouldn't call the RX 590 a waste of money, many system builders can't afford more expensive cards and may not have the option of buying used/refurbished hardware. For a new budget-friendly graphics card, a RX 590 would be a good deal at $180 or even possibly less.

The 590 is barely faster than the 1650S while costing more (in most countries) and using a lot more energy, and for the price of the RX590 the 1660/1660S are usually better. The 5500XT is just bad when compared to the Nvidia options.

 

On topic: It's helpful if you could add where people can look at pricing, there might be other options that are a better deal, but basing on the "390€ RX5700 Red Devil or 380€ RTX2060S IGame Ultra" I would say that the 2060S is better as it is faster and cheaper, even though the cooler is likely worse, in most countries the 5700XT would be cheaper than the 2060S, but if Serbia it isn't then the 2060S seems the better option.

 

Also what happened to the 2060 in your signature? If this is supposed to be a upgrade than don't do it, it isn't worth it.

[ALEKSANDAR87990]

28 minutes ago, KaitouX said:

The 590 is barely faster than the 1650S while costing more (in most countries) and using a lot more energy, and for the price of the RX590 the 1660/1660S are usually better. The 5500XT is just bad when compared to the Nvidia options.

 

On topic: It's helpful if you could add where people can look at pricing, there might be other options that are a better deal, but basing on the "390€ RX5700 Red Devil or 380€ RTX2060S IGame Ultra" I would say that the 2060S is better as it is faster and cheaper, even though the cooler is likely worse, in most countries the 5700XT would be cheaper than the 2060S, but if Serbia it isn't then the 2060S seems the better option.

 

Also what happened to the 2060 in your signature? If this is supposed to be a upgrade than don't do it, it isn't worth it.

It has the defect and thats why i wanna change it.

[Boomwebsearch]

3 minutes ago, KaitouX said:

The 590 is barely faster than the 1650S while costing more (in most countries) and using a lot more energy, and for the price of the RX590 the 1660/1660S are usually better. The 5500XT is just bad when compared to the Nvidia options.

 

You aren't going to see any significant increases in your electric bill with a RX 590 rather than a 1650 Super, if you want better energy efficiency, get a higher efficiency power supply. You shouldn't be picking and choosing parts based on how much power they take, a slightly higher wattage PSU even if needed won't cost much more and at the end you will get better performance for the money. Only considerable advantage to go with new Nvidia current-gen RTX graphics cards would be ray-tracing capability (unless you find them cheaper than comparable AMD alternatives). A 1650 super (4GB video memory variant) would cost $30 to $40 more that an RX 590, in this case there is no real reason to get the GTX 1650 super over the RX 590 (neither support ray-tracing and the RX 590 gives better price to performance). Although, it depends on the country that you are shopping from, and if you find the RTX 1650S considerably cheaper than the RX 590 then don't pay more for the 590, get the best price to performance parts which are available to you.

[KaitouX]

1 hour ago, ALEKSANDAR87990 said:

It has the defect and thats why i wanna change it.

RMA? it should still be within warranty. Or are you returning it for the refund?

 

1 hour ago, Boomwebsearch said:

You aren't going to see any significant increases in your electric bill with a RX 590 rather than a 1650 Super, if you want better energy efficiency, get a higher efficiency power supply. You shouldn't be picking and choosing parts based on how much power they take, a slightly higher wattage PSU even if needed won't cost much more and at the end you will get better performance for the money. Only considerable advantage to go with new Nvidia current-gen RTX graphics cards would be ray-tracing capability (unless you find them cheaper than comparable AMD alternatives). A 1650 super (4GB video memory variant) would cost $30 to $40 more that an RX 590, in this case there is no real reason to get the GTX 1650 super over the RX 590 (neither support ray-tracing and the RX 590 gives better price to performance). Although, it depends on the country that you are shopping from, and if you find the RTX 1650S considerably cheaper than the RX 590 then don't pay more for the 590, get the best price to performance parts which are available to you.

According to PCPP the cheapest 590 currently costs $230 likely due to low stock at the moment(the one you linked is only getting in stock on the 29 May, so 2 weeks of wait), so that is out of question just by that, but even at $180 the 1650S is a better option at the usual $160 it costs as the FPS/$ of the 1650S is better(the 590 is 5~10% faster but 12%+ more expensive on average). When comparing GPUs with similar price and performance, the power consumption difference between 100W and 250W is quite a good reason to go with the more efficient one and a more efficient PSU won't make nowhere near as much difference as that 150W between those GPUs, plus the issues with the extra heat getting dumped in your room, likely higher noise and other issues related to the power consumption. If you want more performance than the 1650S, the 1660 got similar FPS/$ to the 590 while also using less power. You're basing yourself in weird prices like in "A 1650 super (4GB video memory variant) would cost $30 to $40 more that an RX 590" when the 1650S is cheaper than the 590, and you are for some reason recommending the 590 for someone looking to buy a €400 GPU without even knowing how much the 590 costs where OP is, so you didn't even know if it would be a good deal or not.

[Boomwebsearch]

8 minutes ago, KaitouX said:

According to PCPP the cheapest 590 currently costs $230 likely due to low stock at the moment(the one you linked is only getting in stock on the 29 May, so 2 weeks of wait), so that is out of question just by that, but even at $180 the 1650S is a better option at the usual $160 it costs as the FPS/$ of the 1650S is better(the 590 is 5~10% faster but 12%+ more expensive on average).

 

You could pre-order the linked RX 590 to get delivery when in-stock at $179.99, the 1650S has only 4GB of video memory (nothing higher), a 1660S can only have upto 6GB of video memory. I would recommend having at least 8GB of video memory on your graphics card which will allow for games to be run at higher quality.

 

19 minutes ago, KaitouX said:

When comparing GPUs with similar price and performance, the power consumption difference between 100W and 250W is quite a good reason to go with the more efficient one and a more efficient PSU won't make nowhere near as much difference as that 150W between those GPUs, plus the issues with the extra heat getting dumped in your room, likely higher noise and other issues related to the power consumption. If you want more performance than the 1650S, the 1660 got similar FPS/$ to the 590 while also using less power.

 

As long as you are getting a graphics card with a decent cooler, you should not run into any component overheating issues. Your room will likely not get noticeably warmer from a higher TDP graphics card, especially with air conditioning, and if you are saying that there is additional cost from extra use of the air conditioner, it will help save on heating expenses during cold days (it's not really a disadvantage unless you are running the system with limited air-flow).

 

26 minutes ago, KaitouX said:

You're basing yourself in weird prices like in "A 1650 super (4GB video memory variant) would cost $30 to $40 more that an RX 590" when the 1650S is cheaper than the 590

 

This completely depends on where you are shopping from, this was just an example of prices where I am. And, as I have mentioned in my previous post, you should buy the parts that offer the most value out of those that are available to you.

 

30 minutes ago, KaitouX said:

and you are for some reason recommending the 590 for someone looking to buy a €400 GPU without even knowing how much the 590 costs where OP is, so you didn't even know if it would be a good deal or not.

 

The 5700XT that I have linked within this thread would be a better choice if your budget allows, I write posts with consideration for future readers, therefore I was saying that if your budget is more limited and won't allow the 5700 XT, there are other good price to performance options available. 

 

There's not really any point in continuing this discussion without knowing where the OP is shopping from, I was trying to give a more general response with the information provided, although for a more specific answer,  @ALEKSANDAR87990 please include where you are shopping from and what games you are planning to run at which settings?

 

 

Hope that this was able to clear up the confusion,

 

@Boomwebsearch

[TheDankKoosh]

@BoomwebsearchThe RX 590 is infinitely worse than a 1660s in the same price range and should never be considered as it is just a higher clocked, higher power consumption RX 580, which go for $120 used.

4 hours ago, ALEKSANDAR87990 said:

Hello guys.I wanna buy new gpu.I can't decide betwen rx 5700 red devil and rtx 2060 super Igame colorful ultra v8.Which will be better buy.Rx costs me 390e and rtx 380e.

The 5700 is a bit faster but has worse drivers and features compared to the 2060 super, honestly the 2060 super is probably a bit of a better buy and can be overclocked fairly well. There might be better models available for you around the same price though, use pcpartpicker to find out https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/

[Boomwebsearch]

26 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

@BoomwebsearchThe RX 590 is infinitely worse than a 1660s in the same price range and should never be considered as it is just a higher clocked, higher power consumption RX 580, which go for $120 used.

 

 

A used/refurbished graphics card in good condition for a fair price could give you better price to performance if they are available in your area. RX 580s and RX 590s are very similar in price, in some cases the RX 580s cost more.

 

29 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

The 5700 is a bit faster but has worse drivers and features compared to the 2060 super, honestly the 2060 super is probably a bit of a better buy

 

The new Navi drivers are quite good actually and resolve many of the issues that came with previous drivers, only reason I would go with the RTX 2060 Super over the 5700 XT is ray-tracing capabilities. Otherwise, the 5700XT in most cases will offer better price to performance than a RTX 2060 Super. 

[KaitouX]

The 5700 isn't faster than the 2060 Super, it's pretty close but it isn't faster.

As far as I've been able to find, in Serbia the best value was the 5700 Evoke GP for 375 €, the 2060 Super is 420 € and the 5700XT 465 €, so for these prices I would say that the 5700 is the best option, but when including the prices in the first post the 2060 Super would be the best option. Not sure where you got those prices, as they seem a lot better then the ones I've found.

[TheDankKoosh]

28 minutes ago, Boomwebsearch said:

 

 

A used/refurbished graphics card in good condition for a fair price could give you better price to performance if they are available in your area. RX 580s and RX 590s are very similar in price, in some cases the RX 580s cost more.

 

 

The new Navi drivers are quite good actually and resolve many of the issues that came with previous drivers, only reason I would go with the RTX 2060 Super over the 5700 XT is ray-tracing capabilities. Otherwise, the 5700XT in most cases will offer better price to performance than a RTX 2060 Super. 

Used RX 580's are readily available in many countries through auction sites like ebay while RX 590's don't exist within the used market

 

Notice how I didn't say XT and merely said 5700 since OP mentioned them being around the same price

[Boomwebsearch]

10 minutes ago, KaitouX said:

As far as I've been able to find, in Serbia the best value was the 5700 Evoke GP for 375 €, the 2060 Super is 420 € and the 5700XT 465 €, so for these prices I would say that the 5700 is the best option, but when including the prices in the first post the 2060 Super would be the best option. Not sure where you got those prices, as they seem a lot better then the ones I've found.

4 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

Notice how I didn't say XT and merely said 5700 since OP mentioned them being around the same price

 

The RX 5700 XT will give you 20 percent better performance than the RX 5700, from a price to performance perspective, that would translate to meaning that the RX 5700 XT should cost upto 78.75 € more for the higher performance that it delivers. If the 5700 XT was of the same price to performance as the RX 5700 then it would cost 453.75 €. In the real world, manufacturers are going to put higher prices as you get farther away from mid-range and towards the top, and most users can't use multiple graphics cards on a budget (when we are taking current gen hardware). Try to look for the cheapest manufacturer of the card with an at least somewhat decent cooler, the XFX cards are usually good for this. 

[KaitouX]

13 minutes ago, Boomwebsearch said:

The RX 5700 XT will give you 20 percent better performance than the RX 5700,

Where you got that 20%? As far as I see it is 10~15% on average(TechSpot, Techpowerup, ComputerBase, etc) with most closer to 10%.

[Boomwebsearch]

20 minutes ago, KaitouX said:

Where you got that 20%? As far as I see it is 10~15% on average(TechSpot, Techpowerup, ComputerBase, etc) with most closer to 10%.

 

I have uploaded the page where there is a 19-21 percent better performance (effective/average) and showing that the 5700XT would be 13 percent faster than the RX 5700 when compared overclocked to overclocked. Sorry for the freehand marks, I don't have a touchscreen computer and the built-in annotation tool for screen captures is limited in Windows.