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RTX picking up steam - Cyberpunk 2077 & Watch Dogs: Legion join the growing list of RTX titles

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5 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

LMAO, what ignorance? I literally just said exactly what you said. Just in more details.

No you didn't.

 

"Downside is, if devs use RTX, it's locked to NVIDIA cards. If devs use DXR, anyone can do ray tracing for it in the future, be it AMD or Intel. "

 

The only "RTX only" thing is DLSS, RT can be done by anyone. AMD just has yet to enable it through their drivers.

 

The only reason you see RTX plastered all over these games is because of the Nvidia partnerships, and because RTX cards are the only ones that can do hardware accelerated RT right now.

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Now we just need good performance from RT card that isn't $1000+ and we're in business!

I'm pretty sure my purpose in life is to serve as a warning for others.

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4 hours ago, RejZoR said:

As for the price, it's a RTX 2070 competitor.

Like many argue... it is a GTX 1080 competitor a couple of years late to the party... it has ZERO DXR capacity so yeah...

 

Call Ray Tracing a gimmick all you want it's still a differential alright.

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I saw the title of this thread and it made me laugh... I came in actually expecting a load of fanboi gushing and looked for the 'WOW... a 100% increase in the number of RTX titles coming out'

 

Whilst all of my expectations weren't completely met... I wasn't disappointed... It did make me laugh.

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all these threads about nvidia and AMD seem to go down the same path:

 

Claim:  NVIDIA are overcharging consumers and ripping us off.

 

AMD release a card with the same price per performance/featureset

 

Claim: AMD is not a charity, they are entitled to make make profit on their work.

 

Really guys, one rule for NVIDIA and another for AMD?

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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1 minute ago, mr moose said:

Claim: AMD is not a charity, they are entitled to make make profit on their work.

Gotta agree with you here, The RX 5700 XT is so far still looking to be a worse product than the Vega64 and say AMD is in the right because the RX 5700 XT will be more profitable is a ludicrous statement consumer wise.

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8 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

Why? might as well grab a Sapphire Vega64 Nitro+ now for the same performance but superior compute capacity and faster HBM2 memory all on a much better and silent aftermarket cooler instead of another blower cooler garbo.

 

It is the same price for the same performance but still a lesser product with only a few gimmick features to justify any hype, Navi is nothing but disappointment since AMD decided to delay "Big Navi" to avoid the Radeon 7 going EOL prematurely.

cause that card was too loud for my tastes, costs more, and as i said will wait for AIB, i never buy reference

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On 6/14/2019 at 12:03 AM, Princess Luna said:

Gotta agree with you here, The RX 5700 XT is so far still looking to be a worse product than the Vega64 and say AMD is in the right because the RX 5700 XT will be more profitable is a ludicrous statement consumer wise.

Lol, RX5700 XT is faster than Vega 64. Last time I checked, Vega 64 was GTX 1080 level. RX5700 XT trading blows with RTX 2070, that's faster. Not to mention it has a more modern architecture and lower power consumption. Sure, it doesn't have HBM2 and raw compute power, but that's not needed for gaming. And given it's new architecture, we can expect performance bumps over time.

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On 6/13/2019 at 2:43 PM, RejZoR said:

Just like PhysX, right?

As far as I know there's no DirectX component that handles physics. PhysX is a completely different beast to RTX. Hell, in a lot of ways its the exact opposite: PhysX (after Nvidia bought it) became purely a proprietary piece of software that only ran on Nvidia cards. RTX is just a fancy way of saying "the drivers that allow DXR to interact with RT/tensor cores".

 

I'm sure that there are some other more Gameworka style features layered on top, but at the end of the day a dev saying that they will support RTX is like saying a dev will use CUDA cores. It's just using branding to say " yeah, were going to support the hardware in our game". It's still going to operate through DXR (at least in DX titles) so presumably as soon as AMD/Intel have ray tracing capable hardware on the market it should be trivial to port support over.

 

Tl;Dr: it isn't RTX instead of DXR, its Hardware->RTX->DXR->Game Engine. Anything beyond that is mostly just marketing.

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