AngryBeaver

Except it isn't counterfeit? They aren't trying to make a copy of the Dollar, Euro, or any other currency.

Crypto also has a value which is created by the resources required to generate (mine) it. Using it as a form of payment is no different than any other type of barter and the government trying to control barter becomes a pretty iffy area. I mean if crypto being digitally mined means it has no value... then maybe gold, oil, and other precious resources shouldn't be tradable for money as they are just physical extensions of this. Barter is barter... there shouldn't be exceptions to this.

No. The difference is USD and other currency is backed by a country/bank. With bitcoin there is no physical backing in the same way... the Currency gets it's value from the resources required to mine it and the value people place on it. As long as people use it as a currency it will still be a viable source. So while etherium for example doesn't have a country backing it... that doesn't mean I can't exchange it for a currency that does.. and as long as others see it that way it will continue to have a value.

I mean currency was originally a physical representation of how much gold a country had. Which is why some currency is worth more than others, but that pool has been so diluted and gold is no longer the much coveted resource it once was. 

All of the bios on that page are alpha bios 7C91vA5  = Alpha 5

This is for example another motherboard. The v## are official bios the ones with a letter then number are generally alpha/beta drivers (unless something has recently changed)



Also I would go with the A4 bios and see what happens.

 

Password vaults are the only way forward. Just make sure you have a good vault password lol.

He was just giving the 3090 as a form of measurement. For etherium for example any card under about 5gb of vram (probably 6 in a day when difficulty increases) will be unable to mine it. So then you have the fact that eth mining is more memory speed dependent. So for example a 2070s would only get about 37mh/s where my 3080 can pull 100-105 mh/s. Then you have to look at how much power is consumed for that hash rate. For a 2070s I would guess it is in the ballpark of 150watts, vs my 3080 using 207w.

Anyways the point is that of the gpus you gave as examples some of them cannot even mine Etherium. The others will do so, but the cost effectiveness would be much lower as well as the actual hash rates. Then you will just give people a taste of mining which will just lead to more miners lol. When I can pay for a 3080 in about 2 months worth of mining it becomes very tempting to just keep adding cards.

i think you're mistaking what MSRP is
Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price
it is but a guide to tell retailers how much to sell this GPU for, not a price set in stone
 
the actual value, or worth, is determined by the market, or supply and demand.
 
if you're listing your collectible car for $5000, three guys came and auctioned the price to $10000, you aren't going to sell the car at $5000 now would you?
maybe you would, idk

MSRP = Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price. That means the price where the manufacturer covers all of their production costs, plus enough markup for them, the retailers, and any wholesalers/middle men in between to make a profit, without going so high they think nobody will buy it based on current market conditions. That's it. MSRP is "At this price, our informed guess is people will buy it and we won't lose money." MSRP isn't something set by any authority, it isn't carved on a stone tablet Moses brings down from a mountain. Market forces determine how much a product is worth dynamically. 

He was just giving the 3090 as a form of measurement. For etherium for example any card under about 5gb of vram (probably 6 in a day when difficulty increases) will be unable to mine it. So then you have the fact that eth mining is more memory speed dependent. So for example a 2070s would only get about 37mh/s where my 3080 can pull 100-105 mh/s. Then you have to look at how much power is consumed for that hash rate. For a 2070s I would guess it is in the ballpark of 150watts, vs my 3080 using 207w.

Anyways the point is that of the gpus you gave as examples some of them cannot even mine Etherium. The others will do so, but the cost effectiveness would be much lower as well as the actual hash rates. Then you will just give people a taste of mining which will just lead to more miners lol. When I can pay for a 3080 in about 2 months worth of mining it becomes very tempting to just keep adding cards.

That isn't true either. People are getting cards all the time. You just have to be vigilant if you want one. I will be going back to microcenter in about 10 days to get another 3080 (30 day cooldown on buying them) Meaning that in that 30 day cooldown window if I was mining I could have paid for about half of my next card. I might try the newegg lottery system too to see if I can get some from multiple sources.
 
People always want to blame the miners, but honestly it comes down to supply/demand and the ways retailer are protecting customers from people buying cards up in bulk. Hard for miners to clear out inventory when retailers have a good system in place to prevent it. The people mining with these cards have just as much right to own one as anyone else. 

Exactly. My 3080 if used 24/7 to mine pays for itself in 2 months... then it is all profit. That is also at current rates which are likely to continue climbing with occasional crashes thrown in.

I have an aging set of the Logitech z906 speakers, and I also had a pair of the Klipsh Promedia. They both sound just fine, but truthfully I feel headphones are just better for most pc applications these days. Dolby atmos works flawlessly on most headsets and produces a much better 3d effect than anything other than an actual atmos speaker setup. They muffle all the other noise so you aren't losing emersion to random sounds.

So for me I think any of the three solutions you listed can sound good given it has a power sub in the mix. That is not as needed for good bookshelf or floor standing speakers, but it still does a lot to improve sound. I just think that when it comes to games, music, even movies being watched from a pc... that the headphones are extremely hard to beat.

I haven't found a way to disassemble the res enough to clean it. Mine has the same line, but mine is mostly from plasterizer from new soft tubing. It is damn near impossible to clean lol.

So rpm imo isn't the best gadget, but instead lpm or gpm. There is a point with flow rate that you start hitting diminishing returns. I have forgotten the magic number for it atm, but that should be the aim instead of a % of pump speed.
 
There are a lot of factors that go into flow rate so rpm wouldn't be a good one size fits all setting.

I'll post mine in a bit, need to heat up my loop anyways since I am running system reboot through it.
 
Anyways off the top of my head game temps are mid 50-60c and my mining temps with a hefty memory overclock are in the 78-86c 

I would get it out before using the laptop again. The screw is metal and that means there is a high possibility it can create a short killing your motherboard and other connected devices.

The loop flow rate will always be = to most constrained point unless you run a splitter, but that will mean water tends to take the easier path.
 
Also while your AIO test does basically match up with the video I posted... there is a big difference in aio flow rate which maxes out at around .2-.3 gpm and a custom loop where gpm can be over 2+.
 
 

I'll drop this here. De8auer did a good video on it. Jay has another one on it and I think Linus even did one. All of the results are pretty much the same.
 
 

The increase is about 25%. The second card i purchased had the new tariff prices applied and it was almost $200 more. This was from a microcenter too so I know it is 100% the tariff cost being transferred to the consumer.

The 3080 does have a memory temp sensor due to it being common on gddr6x.
 
Now that said my 3080 can run at +1500 memory without errors when on water... my temps still hit 88c-90c. If I run my memory at +1000 then those temps are 80-84c. Which makes me a little nervous, but apparently anything under 95c is pretty safe. Now cards that are on air constantly throttle due to 110c or higher temps. 
 
Now I just need a water cooled backplate to help memory temps further.
 
Oh and since we are talking settings and hash rates. My 3080 runs at 68% plimit, -250 core, and since the difference isn't worth thr risk +1000 on memory for about 105 average MHs. At 1500 it will land around 110, but I would prefer seeing memory at 80-82c

They all basically say they don't have it, but normally do have a small amount that leeches into the water. Looking at pics I would def replace the tubing and them run something like primochill system reboot for the full 48hrs to flush the sysytem.

My r23mc is right at 23000
My r23 sc is around 1630.
 
My temps were hitting mid 70s on mc and 45-50 ST, but when swapping out video cards I noticed the tension bolts on my cpu block weren't bottomed out... so not sure if the new springs after a few days had more play or if I just didn't do it the first time, but since my temps are 3-5 c cooler so I barely hit 70s under MC.
 
Now my chip after undervolting and PBO adjustments is hitting 5100+ single core and 4.7-4.8ghz MC.

For the price of the loop you would be much better served to just get a much better gpu with a beefy cooler. So you could get a 3080 or 3070 with a high end air cooler and STILL come out cheaper than the 2060 with water cooling.
 
Custom water makes the most sense when you are already close to max on components that the money of the loop wouldn't = much more performance elsewhere 

For the price of the loop you would be much better served to just get a much better gpu with a beefy cooler. So you could get a 3080 or 3070 with a high end air cooler and STILL come out cheaper than the 2060 with water cooling.
 
Custom water makes the most sense when you are already close to max on components that the money of the loop wouldn't = much more performance elsewhere 

I feel like you drastically over estimate the temp of air after the rad... which is generally only 1-2c warmer (not much) so as long as you have adequate exhaust your gpu temps will remain largely the same. 

Do you use gsync or freesync? Did you forget to turn them off?

Also background tasks can really hurt score by a few %