US nuclear fears block Intel China supercomputer update

[TwistedDictator]

"The US government has refused to let Intel help China update the world's biggest supercomputer.

Intel applied for a licence to export tens of thousands of chips to update the Tianhe-2 computer.

The Department of Commerce refused, saying it was concerned about nuclear research being done with the machine. "

 

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"Ah yes, the land of the free and of opportunity."

 

"I always find it strange when the US says that other countries aren't allowed to persue nuclear technology. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the US the only nation in the world who has actually used a nuclear weapon on another country? What gives them the right to make that decision... ?"

 

Forget the nukes. Intel shouldn't help America because of all their internet cyber attacks ... or their human rights violations ... or their horrible pollution record ... or (well, you get the picture).

[xnoobftw]

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Forget the nukes. Intel shouldn't help America because of all their internet cyber attacks ... or their human rights violations ... or their horrible pollution record ... or (well, you get the picture).

#merica

[Guest]

You mean like the nuclear research we do....

[Pandora]

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Forget the nukes. Intel shouldn't help America because of all their internet cyber attacks ... or their human rights violations ... or their horrible pollution record ... or (well, you get the picture).

why do you need a super computer anyway to make a nuke. we make our first few without that.

[Trik'Stari]

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"Ah yes, the land of the free and of opportunity."

 

"I always find it strange when the US says that other countries aren't allowed to persue nuclear technology. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the US the only nation in the world who has actually used a nuclear weapon on another country? What gives them the right to make that decision... ?"

 

Forget the nukes. Intel shouldn't help America because of all their internet cyber attacks ... or their human rights violations ... or their horrible pollution record ... or (well, you get the picture).

Meanwhile, we're basically going to allow Iran to get them. A nation that has outright stated that their goal is to annihilate another nation, and commit total genocide.

 

And honestly, what does us having used an atomic device on another nation actually have to do with anything? Yes, we've done it, yes it was terrible, despite the fact that it ended the war early, and prevented millions of deaths that would have resulted from an attempted invasion of the Japanese home islands. It was still terrible, but try having some perspective rather than just saying "you used it, dat means you can't tell anyone what to do!"

 

I distrust China, they're not really a good country, neither are we, but still. Although I agree....what does a super computer have to do with nuclear weapons?

 

Anyways, I'm out. I don't wish to further participate in another "h8 on murica" childish discussion with people who have little to no historical context.

[Guest]

why do you need a super computer anyway to make a nuke. we make our first few without that.

Key word "reaserch"...

[wpirobotbuilder]

 

"I always find it strange when the US says that other countries aren't allowed to persue nuclear technology. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the US the only nation in the world who has actually used a nuclear weapon on another country? What gives them the right to make that decision... ?"

 

Forget the nukes. Intel shouldn't help America because of all their internet cyber attacks ... or their human rights violations ... or their horrible pollution record ... or (well, you get the picture).

I think you mean "Intel shouldn't help China".

 

Also, we dropped the first bomb and set off a 50-year-long arms race that was genuinely terrifying to people. The vast majority of the world is behind nuclear non-proliferation.

[GUzmani]

I hate america only because they think that war should ended that way.

[The Benjamins]

You mean like the nuclear research we do....

 

Nuclear reaction simulations. they can run test on all sorts of better designs with out having to test them in real life. and to play crysis.

[Sauron]

Yeah, and in the meanwhile the US has the largest stash of nuclear weaponry in the world, enough to pulverize the planet multiple times over. With Russia being in second place and still having enough to reduce everything to little dust bits. And on top of that, they already HAVE the world's fastest supercomputer. If they wanted to do nuclear research on it they already could, easily. Hell, project Manhattan happened WITHOUT computers, imagine what they could have done with a millionth of this thing's performance. Gtfo department of commerce.

 

Forget the nukes. Intel shouldn't help America because of all their internet cyber attacks ... or their human rights violations ... or their horrible pollution record ... or (well, you get the picture).

 

I think you meant China? If so, it won't get better by itself... as long as the "help" doesn't go towards making it worse it can only be welcome, right?

[azurezeed]

well is the US this isn't surprising at all

[Real_PhillBert]

I hate america only because they think that war should ended that way.

Even though pretty much every estimate puts an invasion of Japan as much much more costly to human life...

[SatansHollow]

Team murica...

[imthewalrus]

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/344736-us-government-restricting-supercomputer-chip-exports-to-china/#entry4703337

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[Arty]

i mean are bombs aren't even the biggest....

*cough* Russia *cough*

[typographie]

"I always find it strange when the US says that other countries aren't allowed to persue nuclear technology. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the US the only nation in the world who has actually used a nuclear weapon on another country? What gives them the right to make that decision... ?"

 

China advancing their nuclear capabilities could worry South Korea, Japan, and Australia enough for them to pursue their own nuclear deterrent, and no one wants an arms race in east Asia. While India already has their own nuclear weapons, it could also upset the balance of power there as well.

 

Nuclear proliferation isn't really the place to worry about how "unfair" the U.S. government is, in my opinion.

[dalekphalm]

Personally I think that America and Japan are really the only two nations that really have a true understanding of the power of nuclear weapons. They both have a unique perspective that no other nation has. One having seen the horror of deploying such a weapon, and one having seen the horror of being on the receiving end of such a weapon.

Also everyone talking about how America is the only country to drop the bomb... There is literally no question that an invasion of Japan would have cost untold multiple more lives on both sides compared to those lost in Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

Was it terrible and horrifying? Yes. But it still saved lives compared to an invasion. Also, the rules of engagement in WW2 were much different compared to now. Bombing of civilian centers and industrial areas were common practice. Both allied and axis forces would regularly carpet bomb cities during the war back then.

Personally, I'm glad that the Americans avoid as much collateral damage as they do in modern times. Could this still be improved? Yes, of course. But it is still an improvement from that era none the less.

[Mister Snow]

Maybe anti hacking war next to not allowing them resources for nuclear war simulations and defense. At the end of the day they will only make China more focused on their own chip production, harm Intel and in time drive away investments and big corporations that are not in the war and oil business.

[TwistedDictator]

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/344736-us-government-restricting-supercomputer-chip-exports-to-china/#entry4703337

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This is talking about the US govement recstring companys. Mine is talking about Intel and the reason why the blocked intel from selling to china.

[FakezZ]

why do you need a super computer anyway to make a nuke. we make our first few without that.

It probably helps with the nuclear simulations and stuff. Also, it doesn't have to be related to nukes. Maybe it is just a "fuck you" message to China. Like the embargo the EU imposed to Russia because of the incidents in Ukraine.