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1 minute ago, ravenshrike said:

Because for a given purchaser package mishandling is less likely since there's not as many packages. 

That has more to do with package design than it does anything else. Plus by that logic if one if them is mishandled in the package deal then all of them are mishandled and the likelihood of one if them being DOA is high because it's like all 3 being mishandled. Bottom line is that it would be dumb to be trying to justify buying this based on it being doa. If you are that worried about DOA then just go to a physical store that way you can simply return it if it doesn't work.

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MSI and Ryzen are a shit mix to begin with so no thanks

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4 hours ago, Misanthrope said:

Yeah, I remember how their last attempt at bundles went with the Vega launch: don't bother.

Right now Vega seems to be a lot worse than Polaris though, in terms of undersupply and overpricing... Prices/availability of rx 580 are still above MSRP but have improved. Gamers are buying them.

 

With Vega from launch day onwards AMD has completely failed to get them into the hands of gamers.

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3 hours ago, asus killer said:

depending on the cryptocurrency value, if it's a too good to be true miners will by it and sell the cpu and mobo. If prices come down it doesn't seem to great a deal. Gamers have a loose loose situation here.

A bit unrelated but If Nvidia and AMD really want to make sure they get some proper GPU allocation out to gamers they should tie up with EA-Origin or Valve-steam or uplay-ubisoft or Blizzard-battlenet.

If you have an active account with at least x hours gameplay you get a special discount code for major online retailers redeemable for a maximum of one GPU purchase per year.

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4 hours ago, Humbug said:

Right now Vega seems to be a lot worse than Polaris though, in terms of undersupply and overpricing... Prices/availability of rx 580 are still above MSRP but have improved. Gamers are buying them.

 

With Vega from launch day onwards AMD has completely failed to get them into the hands of gamers.

Not completely, I have a VEGA 64 and I'm a gamer!  

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1 hour ago, Humbug said:

A bit unrelated but If Nvidia and AMD really want to make sure they get some proper GPU allocation out to gamers they should tie up with EA-Origin or Valve-steam or uplay-ubisoft or Blizzard-battlenet.

If you have an active account with at least x hours gameplay you get a special discount code for major online retailers redeemable for a maximum of one GPU purchase per year.

I was thinking abut that last night, They should partner with steam, and create a special code, where you get 150USD in your steam wallet, but they only work if the card the code came with is installed in the system. and they charge you like 140 or 135 more than MSRP. Now that would entice many PC gamers. 

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I mean cool though. They're getting rid of 1. gen stock so makes sense to make like a bundle like so. 

I do wonder now, how come AMD doesn't have 'Combat Crates' in general, at least for a limited time and bundle each new gen of products. Could work really well. Cause they do produce both CPU and GPU so. They could bundle them by appropriate tiers along with RAM and mobo. 

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33 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Why would they bundle 1xxx series ryzen chips when the new ones just launched?

Maybe they still have to clear out a bit of 1st gen stock which they do not want to get stuck. Now that the 2nd gen is out and well priced people don't want to buy 1st gen.

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11 minutes ago, Humbug said:

Maybe they still have to clear out a bit of 1st gen stock which they do not want to get stuck. Now that the 2nd gen is out and well priced people don't want to buy 1st gen.

AMD should just stick em all on eBay for 10-15% lower than the new parts! 

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35 minutes ago, Ben Quigley said:

AMD should just stick em all on eBay for 10-15% lower than the new parts! 

Or give out a offer during the bad gou pricing and still get some margins while getting free marketing, marketshare and get rid of the older cpus

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4 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Or give out a offer during the bad gou pricing and still get some margins while getting free marketing, marketshare and get rid of the older cpus

hmm.... Buy a 900USD Vega 64 and get a free ryzen 1000 series?

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9 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

That has more to do with package design than it does anything else. Plus by that logic if one if them is mishandled in the package deal then all of them are mishandled and the likelihood of one if them being DOA is high because it's like all 3 being mishandled. Bottom line is that it would be dumb to be trying to justify buying this based on it being doa. If you are that worried about DOA then just go to a physical store that way you can simply return it if it doesn't work.

The number of packages does not make a difference in the number of failures.

If the package has a 1/10 chance of being mishandled to the extend the object inside is DOA and you take 3 trips you have a 3/10 chance of having 1 broken item while if you take 1 trip with 3 items you have a 1/10 chance of the entire package being dead resulting in a 3/10 chance that an item is killed for a large number of items sent.

 

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2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Not a bad deal if it is a threadripper....... Its not like i can get a Vega 64 for 900$ anyway......

well it wouldn't be a TR would it.... I got my Vega 64 for around £400 at the time 1080s were like 450+ so I'm happy with my purchase. 

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5 minutes ago, Ben Quigley said:

well it wouldn't be a TR would it.... I got my Vega 64 for around £400 at the time 1080s were like 450+ so I'm happy with my purchase. 

I did a misstake and didnt buy the vega 64 when i could. Though its not like i needed a upgrade anyway. 

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2 hours ago, Humbug said:

A bit unrelated but If Nvidia and AMD really want to make sure they get some proper GPU allocation out to gamers they should tie up with EA-Origin or Valve-steam or uplay-ubisoft or Blizzard-battlenet.

If you have an active account with at least x hours gameplay you get a special discount code for major online retailers redeemable for a maximum of one GPU purchase per year.

this makes a lot of sense. Too bad they can't read this.

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Just now, GoldenLag said:

I did a misstake and didnt buy the vega 64 when i could. Though its not like i needed a upgrade anyway. 

How much do they go for where you're at? and I went from a 980ti to a Vega 64. So a big enough upgrade. 

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6 minutes ago, Ben Quigley said:

How much do they go for where you're at? and I went from a 980ti to a Vega 64. So a big enough upgrade. 

They go for 1000$ or roughly 850£. They go for used slightly less. Maybe around 600£ per in a mining bundle. Though you generaly cant find them

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Just now, GoldenLag said:

They go for 1000$ or roughly 850£. They go for used slightly less. Maybe around 600£ per in a mining bundle. Though you generaly cant find them

Damn.... 

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4 minutes ago, Ben Quigley said:

Damn.... 

We have the cheapest electricity (more or less) in Europe and mining is rather profitable here. Roi time is pretty good here due to low electrical costs. The only issue is the unit costs. Also vega 56 is more or less the exact same price. A tiny tiny bit less

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40 minutes ago, ScratchCat said:

The number of packages does not make a difference in the number of failures.

Thus why I said it would be better for a given individual. If any of the package is DOA from mishandling you return the entire thing and wait for another. Meanwhile it cuts your chance of receiving a DOA from mishandling item in half(CPUs being very unlikely to have issued from mishandling)

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