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[bcredeur97]

7 minutes ago, chaozbandit said:

@bcredeur97

 

Too much camber m8

[Not_Sean]

On 12/1/2017 at 9:57 PM, iDeFecZx said:

Idk if I should get coilovers or springs

Mind says coilovers, wallet say springs

 

On 12/2/2017 at 2:05 AM, TVwazhere said:

Heart says save up for coilovers. Thats what I'm gonna do personally. 

 

On 12/2/2017 at 3:29 AM, RevoltTrain said:

I'd do coilovers over just Springs on stock struts. Quality lowering Springs and lowering struts price wise typically are knocking on the door of a set of bc coilovers 

Honestly, Unless you guys are going to the Track AND know how to properly set up your car don't bother with Coil Overs. Everyone goes for them cause you can slam the car nice and look and if that's what you want to go for it, but if you actually want to improve your ride get a matched pair of springs and shocks, They already perfectly dialed in for your car's weight and drops the hight to the perfect level to improve handling, Somehow todays car guys seem to think coil overs are the best, and they adjustable so that means I can set up car up so perfectly, NO you cannot, it takes some serious know how to get that shit dialed in, I drove for a factory team in an endurance series and thats were I learnt this stuff and even I wouldn't bother with coilies on my own car (If you care about performance)

9 hours ago, Monkey Dust said:

The 911 is a smaller, lighter car, and in the case of the GT3 still naturally aspirated and track focused. The GT3 is a very different car to the Vantage.

 

Also in defence of modern sports and super cars going auto & DSG, on a tight twisty road or track being able to change gear with paddles behind the wheel makes them more fun. You can squeeze in gear changes between corners that you couldn't with a manual, keeping the engine in it's power band. They are very different to the slushboxes of old where you just put it in D and forgot about it, though they will work like that if you want.

 

It's not a question of which transmission is better, it a question of which one suits which car.    

Dude, you are so so right having driven the manual and STronic Audi R8 I can easily tell you the automatic was way nicer! granted I haven't been on the track with them I did have the RS5 on the track and the same thing the auto box was sublime. I find it's not just which one suits the car but that there is a level of power and once you go past it the manual actually becomes the issue.

[iDeFecZx]

12 minutes ago, Not_Sean said:

 

 

Honestly, Unless you guys are going to the Track AND know how to properly set up your car don't bother with Coil Overs. Everyone goes for them cause you can slam the car nice and look and if that's what you want to go for it, but if you actually want to improve your ride get a matched pair of springs and shocks, They already perfectly dialed in for your car's weight and drops the hight to the perfect level to improve handling, Somehow todays car guys seem to think coil overs are the best, and they adjustable so that means I can set up car up so perfectly, NO you cannot, it takes some serious know how to get that shit dialed in, I drove for a factory team in an endurance series and thats were I learnt this stuff and even I wouldn't bother with coilies on my own car (If you care about performance)

 

A decent set of shocks and springs will set me back about £500 for my car whereas I can get a decent set of coilovers for £230 plus im not set on how low I want it yet so having the choice of setting up the height myself is a much better option

I really dont want to spend much more on the car and im not bothered about it being some perfect track monster since its not likely to see a track

[Not_Sean]

2 minutes ago, iDeFecZx said:

A decent set of shocks and springs will set me back about £500 for my car whereas I can get a decent set of coilovers for £230 plus im not set on how low I want it yet so having the choice of setting up the height myself is a much better option

I really dont want to spend much more on the car and im not bothered about it being some perfect track monster since its not likely to see a track

if its not going on the track and you jsut want it low then you'll be fine with just changing springs. look at the Eibach kits I've had great experiences with them and it'll drop it enough to look awesome but still livable on speed bumps. plus prob way cheaper.

[iDeFecZx]

56 minutes ago, Not_Sean said:

if its not going on the track and you jsut want it low then you'll be fine with just changing springs. look at the Eibach kits I've had great experiences with them and it'll drop it enough to look awesome but still livable on speed bumps. plus prob way cheaper.

Lowest I can go with just springs is a 50mm drop and im pretty sure im looking for between 60-80mm drop

Want it to sit just with the arch just above the wheel a bit like this

Stock height for reference

[Not_Sean]

4 minutes ago, iDeFecZx said:

Lowest I can go with just springs is a 50mm drop and im pretty sure im looking for between 60-80mm drop

Want it to sit just with the arch just above the wheel a bit like this

Stock height for reference

you going to have to roll your arches if you want an 80mm drop, not to mention how out your camber will have to be, Are you trying to Stance the car?

 

honestly, don't knock a 50mm drop. that's HUGE for suspension. also, those companies would have found it to be the lowest that makes the car livable, My first ST did the Eibach drop and it was only 30mm and when I parked next to a stock one it looked like a 4x4 compared.

up to you, just see putting coil overs on a non-track car just so it sits nice and low is like doing a custom loop on a Pentium G4560. but hey each to their own. 

[iDeFecZx]

4 minutes ago, Not_Sean said:

you going to have to roll your arches if you want an 80mm drop, not to mention how out your camber will have to be, Are you trying to Stance the car?

 

honestly, don't knock a 50mm drop. that's HUGE for suspension. also, those companies would have found it to be the lowest that makes the car livable, My first ST did the Eibach drop and it was only 30mm and when I parked next to a stock one it looked like a 4x4 compared.

up to you, just see putting coil overs on a non-track car just so it sits nice and low is like doing a custom loop on a Pentium G4560. but hey each to their own. 

80mm drop on this isnt an unheard of thing. Mate of mine has one thats got atleast 110mm drop on coilovers and drives fine, albeit a bit slow over any kind of bump.

Cant remember exactly how low this one was but its about the height I want mine (Black/Silver one obvs)

[byalexandr]

On 12/1/2017 at 6:59 AM, RevoltTrain said:

I want one quite badly as long as its a dual headlight hatch

Pffft, free > spending money 

Not pop ups though, would be cool if it had those too.

[FlatearthBOI]

3 hours ago, vinyldash303 said:

And just enough hard top

Not enough exposed carbon

[JoaoPRSousa]

On 12/2/2017 at 10:38 PM, chaozbandit said:

 

 

[RevoltTrain]

4 hours ago, Not_Sean said:

 

 

Honestly, Unless you guys are going to the Track AND know how to properly set up your car don't bother with Coil Overs. Everyone goes for them cause you can slam the car nice and look and if that's what you want to go for it, but if you actually want to improve your ride get a matched pair of springs and shocks, They already perfectly dialed in for your car's weight and drops the hight to the perfect level to improve handling, Somehow todays car guys seem to think coil overs are the best, and they adjustable so that means I can set up car up so perfectly, NO you cannot, it takes some serious know how to get that shit dialed in, I drove for a factory team in an endurance series and thats were I learnt this stuff and even I wouldn't bother with coilies on my own car (If you care about performance)

Dude, you are so so right having driven the manual and STronic Audi R8 I can easily tell you the automatic was way nicer! granted I haven't been on the track with them I did have the RS5 on the track and the same thing the auto box was sublime. I find it's not just which one suits the car but that there is a level of power and once you go past it the manual actually becomes the issue.

My car is a year round car and we can get multiple feet of snow. The ability to change ride height as need is the only way any if my cars will ever be lowered 

[terrytek]

14 hours ago, 711jrp said:

This ^^^^^ just because you want some luxury dosen't mean you should put up with a poor driving experience. This is why I still have my e39 M5.

no way. YOU HAVE AN E39 M5??????

8 hours ago, Not_Sean said:

 

 

Honestly, Unless you guys are going to the Track AND know how to properly set up your car don't bother with Coil Overs. Everyone goes for them cause you can slam the car nice and look and if that's what you want to go for it, but if you actually want to improve your ride get a matched pair of springs and shocks, They already perfectly dialed in for your car's weight and drops the hight to the perfect level to improve handling, Somehow todays car guys seem to think coil overs are the best, and they adjustable so that means I can set up car up so perfectly, NO you cannot, it takes some serious know how to get that shit dialed in, I drove for a factory team in an endurance series and thats were I learnt this stuff and even I wouldn't bother with coilies on my own car (If you care about performance)

Dude, you are so so right having driven the manual and STronic Audi R8 I can easily tell you the automatic was way nicer! granted I haven't been on the track with them I did have the RS5 on the track and the same thing the auto box was sublime. I find it's not just which one suits the car but that there is a level of power and once you go past it the manual actually becomes the issue.

But.....gated shifter. It's like the last modern car with a gated shifter.

[Not_Sean]

6 minutes ago, terrytek said:

But.....gated shifter. It's like the last modern car with a gated shifter.

 

hahaha yeah, that is true, Gated shifters are pretty awesome, but same time for daily driving a bitch. They do at least look good though  

[chaozbandit]

24 minutes ago, terrytek said:

no way. YOU HAVE AN E39 M5??????

But.....gated shifter. It's like the last modern car with a gated shifter.

[terrytek]

Just now, chaozbandit said:

Technically they're almost the same. Share same engine, same layout, pretty much an R8 skinned as a Lambo.

[bcredeur97]

Manual = more fun

Dual clutch = better/faster

 

 

sometimes fun just beats fast... sometimes fast beats fun. Just depends on what you want to do!

[bcredeur97]

1 hour ago, terrytek said:

Technically they're almost the same. Share same engine, same layout, pretty much an R8 skinned as a Lambo.

im noticing the screen has audi's "MMI" interface on it like my dad's car.

[RevoltTrain]

9 hours ago, iDeFecZx said:

Lowest I can go with just springs is a 50mm drop and im pretty sure im looking for between 60-80mm drop

Want it to sit just with the arch just above the wheel a bit like this

Stock height for reference

Need some new wheels too

[iDeFecZx]

4 hours ago, RevoltTrain said:

Need some new wheels too

I was gonna get some 17s but no point now

[RevoltTrain]

59 minutes ago, iDeFecZx said:

I was gonna get some 17s but no point now

Why not?

[PandaCopyRight]

46 minutes ago, RevoltTrain said:

Why not?

Cause why buy nicer wheels when he going to sell the car anyways.... 

[711jrp]

9 hours ago, terrytek said:

no way. YOU HAVE AN E39 M5??????

 

You got to work on your memory skills, we been friends on M5 forum for a couple of years now.....lol

[iDeFecZx]

1 hour ago, RevoltTrain said:

Why not?

Its going up for sale in about 9-10 months time

[bcredeur97]

today on my way to work, in the oncoming lane there was a dump truck. when i passed by him, i could watch a rock fly off his truck, careen through the air and land smack in the middle of my view of the windshield.

 

luckily not much happened... i couldnt tell if it cracked it or not... maybe just a chip.

[techswede]

1 hour ago, bcredeur97 said:

today on my way to work, in the oncoming lane there was a dump truck. when i passed by him, i could watch a rock fly off his truck, careen through the air and land smack in the middle of my view of the windshield.

 

luckily not much happened... i couldnt tell if it cracked it or not... maybe just a chip.

Hopefully its just a chip. That sucks man