canadians on massdrop

[dizmo]

35 minutes ago, Zeketo said:

the second one is good if it can sneak out of the customs which it probably wont. 420 after tax is actually a great deal, but won't happen. It's that time of the year that you wish black friday comes earlier or later. 240hz 1ms monitor was $399 /144hz  $329 on black friday and how did I miss those

How do you figure it's a good deal when @AshleyAshes pretty clearly pointed out that it's not?

[dalekphalm]

2 hours ago, Zeketo said:

Do you pay tax if you are a canadian buyer on massdrop.

I went through everything on paypal and it didn't seem to add tax to the cost only $50 usd shipping fees

PS: I live in Ontario and the tax is crazy

Yes, you pay taxes upon delivery generally.

[Zeketo]

14 minutes ago, dizmo said:

How do you figure it's a good deal when @AshleyAshes pretty clearly pointed out that it's not?

if it doesnt charge tax or import fees, it's a good deal bruh

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, Zeketo said:

if it doesnt charge tax or import fees, it's a good deal bruh

So it's worth having the possibility of saving $50, or risk paying up to $125?

[Canada EH]

2 minutes ago, Zeketo said:

if it doesnt charge tax or import fees, it's a good deal bruh

You will be charged import fees

[Zeketo]

Just now, dizmo said:

So it's worth having the possibility of saving $50, or risk paying up to $125?

I am saying if it doesn't charge tax, it's great. Just like what others say, it's too big to avoid customs

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, Zeketo said:

I am saying if it doesn't charge tax, it's great. Just like what others say, it's too big to avoid customs

It's really not.

[Canada EH]

Why dont you buy locally?

6 minutes ago, Zeketo said:

if

 

[dalekphalm]

1 hour ago, AshleyAshes said:

The OP doesn't seem to understand that you're joking.

 

But anyway;

https://www.revenuquebec.ca/en/citizens/your-situation/new-residents/the-quebec-taxation-system/income-tax-rates/

Quebec has some of the highest provincial income tax rates in the province.

 

First $42K

Ontario: 5.05%

Quebec: 15%

 

Next $42K:

Ontario: 9.15%

Quebec: 20%

 

Next $64K:

Ontario: 11.16%

Quebec: 24% (Up to $104K) - 25.75% (over $104K)

 

Ontario keeps going for a bit, but tops out at 13.16%.

 

Actually, I think Quebec has the highest provincial income tax rate. And of course, you need to add on Federal Tax rate too.

 

While I don't think Canada is overly taxed in general (definitely not like most people make it out to be), Quebec does get up there.

29 minutes ago, Zeketo said:

if it doesnt charge tax or import fees, it's a good deal bruh

Dude, they're gonna charge the income tax/import fees on it. You're basically gambling, and the deck is stacked against you.

 

I paid income tax/import fees on my Sennheiser HD 6xx's - but they were so cheap (and the HD 650 so expensive) that I came out ahead by over $200, but the deals you're looking at? Just buy the damn thing off Amazon or Memory Express.

[Canada EH]

Ouch

 

Province	Type	Prov. rate (%)	Total Tax Rate (%)	Notes
Alberta	GST	0	5	There is a 4% tax on lodging and 4% tax on hotel room fees.
British Columbia	GST + PST	7	12	Main article: Sales taxes in British Columbia Reverted to a separate GST/PST on April 1, 2013, with a PST of 7%, after their adoption of a HST in 2010 was rejected in a referendum.[1]
Manitoba	GST + RST	8	13[2]	There is a 5% tax on lodging and 5% tax on hotel room fees.
New Brunswick	HST	10	15	The HST was increased two points to 10% with an overall tax of 15% on 1 July 2016.[3]
Newfoundland and Labrador	HST	10	15	The HST was increased two points to 10% with an overall tax of 15% on 1 July 2016.[4]
Northwest Territories	GST	0	5
Nova Scotia	HST	10	15[5]	Rates were meant to be reduced to 14 and 13% on July 1, 2014 and July 1, 2015 respectively. However, the government has stated that the province cannot afford reductions.[6]
Nunavut	GST	0	5
Ontario	HST	8	13
Prince Edward Island	HST	10	15[7]	The HST was increased one point to 15% on 1 October 2016.[1]
Quebec	GST + QST	9.975[8]	14.975[9]	Books are taxed at 5.0% (considered essential goods for QST but not for GST). There is an additional tax on tourist lodgings such as hotels which varies by region, ranging from $2 per night to 3.5%.[10][11]
Saskatchewan	GST + PST	6	11[12]	The 6% rate is effective for goods and services effective March 23, 2017.[13] Effective April 1, 2017, New Homes, restaurant meals and other prepared food and beverages are subject to PST.[14] There is a separate 10% liquor consumption tax. PST is not applicable for any exempt business in Lloydminster.
Yukon	GST	0	5

[Hiitchy]

2 hours ago, Canada EH said:

5% GST here with 0% PST

Spoiler

 

[dizmo]

32 minutes ago, Hiitchy said:

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Don't be. Ontario is going to have a 4 billion dollar deficit, but Alberta is on track for a 10.5 billion dollar deficit.

That money's gotta come from somewhere. Hello, PST.

[Infinity8]

I have never ordered anything off MassDrop. However, I live pretty close to the US/Canadian border so I just ship it over and pick it up. If you're polite and the value doesn't exceed $200-$300, the border agent won't send me inside to pay duty.

[kokakolia]

On 2/26/2018 at 6:06 PM, AshleyAshes said:

1) Seriously?  You think 13% sales tax is 'crazy'?

2) While an American shipper has no responsibilty or even means to charge Canadian sales tax, your order may still be charged Duty as it passes through customs.

If the American shipper is serious, they have to charge tax. You don't want to be charged Duty. You'll (probably) pay more that way. 

 

Also, sales taxes are different across provinces in Canada. It's 5% in Alberta, 15% in Nova Scotia and I am unsure about the other provinces. 

[wasab]

On 2/26/2018 at 8:29 PM, Canada EH said:

Gotcha

 

 

 

 

Province or Territory	GDP (million CAD$, 2015)	Population (2015)	GDP per capita (CAD$, 2015)	Average Total Income (CAD$, 2010)
Canada	1,986,193	35,848,610	55,405	41,129
British Columbia	249,981	4,692,953	53,267	40,196
Alberta	326,433	4,179,660	78,100	53,408
Saskatchewan	79,415	1,132,263	70,138	40,933
Manitoba	65,862	1,295,981	50,820	36,795
Ontario	763,276	13,797,038	55,322	42,643
Quebec	380,972	8,259,452	46,126	36,491
New Brunswick	33,052	754,309	43,818	34,164
Prince Edward Island	6,186	146,736	42,157	33,632
Nova Scotia	40,225	943,373	42,640	36,108
Newfoundland and Labrador	30,100	528,676	56,935	35,345

That’s so low. The gdp of New York State, where I live, alone is greater than the gdp of entire Canada.

[dalekphalm]

10 minutes ago, wasab said:

That’s so low. The gdp of New York State, where I live, alone is greater than the gdp of entire Canada.

Source? Googling, I found GDP numbers for New York State that range from $1.1 Trillion to $1.55 Trillion. As you can see above, Canada has a GDP just shy of $2 Trillion. 

 

Also NYS has a population of 20 million. That’s about the same population as Ontario and Quebec combined, the two largest and richest provinces in Canada.

 

So no, by proper comparison, GDP between Canada and NYS are actually pretty in line with each other. 

 

Of course, you also need to normalize into one currency for a full comparison. I assume that the figures listed above are in CAD, while the NYS figures are in USD no doubt. 

[HunterScott]

On 27/02/2018 at 12:30 AM, Zeketo said:

Do you pay tax if you are a canadian buyer on massdrop.

I went through everything on paypal and it didn't seem to add tax to the cost only $50 usd shipping fees

PS: I live in Ontario and the tax is crazy

We pay 20% in the UK - 13% is nothing!

[wasab]

1 minute ago, dalekphalm said:

Source? Googling, I found GDP numbers for New York State that range from $1.1 Trillion to $1.55 Trillion.

 

Also NYS has a population of 20 million. That’s about the same population as Ontario and Quebec combined, the two largest and richest provinces in Canada.

 

So no, by proper comparison, GDP between Canada and NYS are actually pretty in line with each other. 

https://www.google.com/search?q=gdp+canada&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS772US772&oq=gdp+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l2j69i57j69i59.2198j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/248023/us-gross-domestic-product-gdp-by-state/

 

well, 100m bigger in 2016. With the current growth rate, ny state is totally bigger in 2018. 

 

If if you want to talk about population, NY has less population. Heck, NYC has only 8 million ppl while Canada has 36m+ and the city only is already like 68% of the canadaian gdp. 

 

 

[dalekphalm]

3 hours ago, wasab said:

https://www.google.com/search?q=gdp+canada&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS772US772&oq=gdp+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l2j69i57j69i59.2198j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/248023/us-gross-domestic-product-gdp-by-state/

 

well, 100m bigger in 2016. With the current growth rate, ny state is totally bigger in 2018. 

 

If if you want to talk about population, NY has less population. Heck, NYC has only 8 million ppl while Canada has 36m+ and the city only is already like 68% of the canadaian gdp. 

 

 

Yes but you're comparing one the largest and wealthiest cities in the US to an entire country, which contains both vast rural areas, poor cities, and rich cities.

 

You'd be better off comparing NYC on a GDP per capita basis, with Toronto.

 

It actually seems like the rest of NYS (outside of NYC) has almost no economic impact to the state.

 

So let's take a look:

 

Toronto

Population: 2.8M

GDP: $303Bn

GDP Per Capita: $108K per capita

 

NYC

Population: 8.5M

GDP: $1.4T (rounded, I'm finding many different sources with different ranges)

GDP Per Capita: $165K per capita

 

That's definitely better, no doubt about it. But both figures are quite good.

 

We can look at Ontario vs NYS:

 

Ontario

Population: 13.6M

GDP: $600Bn

GDP Per Capita: $45K

 

NYS

Population: 19.75M

GDP: $1.5T (2016 number, couldn't find anything official on more current)

GDP Per Capita: $76K

 

So we can tell two things from this:

1. NYC is very wealthy. Makes sense. It's one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

2. Both NYC and Toronto significantly prop up the economy of the rest of the state/province - but this is more accentuated in NYS vs Ontario.

3. The rural areas of both make very little wealth compared to their respective metro city.

 

When you look at the entire US GDP Per Capita, it's much much lower than even NY State, because of all the rural, low population, low wage states, will counteract the gains of wealthy cities and states like New York.

[ARikozuM]

Massdrop is selling Canadians? Damn, first Russian wives and now just Canadians... What a time to be alive!

[Max_Settings]

On 2/26/2018 at 8:06 PM, AshleyAshes said:

1) Seriously?  You think 13% sales tax is 'crazy'?

 

Yeah, that's crazy for Americans

[W-L]

Alrightly getting back on topic here. 

 

-Thread Cleaned-