canadians on massdrop

[Zeketo]

Do you pay tax if you are a canadian buyer on massdrop.

I went through everything on paypal and it didn't seem to add tax to the cost only $50 usd shipping fees

PS: I live in Ontario and the tax is crazy

[mortino]

7 minutes ago, Zeketo said:

Do you pay tax if you are a canadian buyer on massdrop.

I went through everything on paypal and it didn't seem to add tax to the cost only $50 usd shipping fees

PS: I live in Ontario and the tax is crazy

It's only 13% lol, better than the 15% it used to be a few years ago.

[SquintyG33Rs]

still 15% depending on the province...

 

i think in some cases i've had to pay import taxes. not the same as standard taxes... for bigger stuff it was the case

[MaxBunny]

32 minutes ago, Zeketo said:

canadians on massdrop

You should include their price and any kind of history of past sales so we can determine whether or not we want to buy them.

[AshleyAshes]

35 minutes ago, Zeketo said:

Do you pay tax if you are a canadian buyer on massdrop.

I went through everything on paypal and it didn't seem to add tax to the cost only $50 usd shipping fees

PS: I live in Ontario and the tax is crazy

1) Seriously?  You think 13% sales tax is 'crazy'?

2) While an American shipper has no responsibilty or even means to charge Canadian sales tax, your order may still be charged Duty as it passes through customs.

[Zeketo]

these 2 https://www.massdrop.com/buy/viewsonic-25-240hz-xg2530-gaming-monitor  or   https://www.massdrop.com/buy/viewsonic-27-144hz-xg2701-gaming-monitor

I tried all the way before the last step on Paypal, no duty or tax is added.

[AshleyAshes]

Just now, Zeketo said:

these 2 https://www.massdrop.com/buy/viewsonic-25-240hz-xg2530-gaming-monitor  or   https://www.massdrop.com/buy/viewsonic-27-144hz-xg2701-gaming-monitor

I tried all the way before the last step on Paypal, no duty or tax is added.

If there will be duty charged, you likely won't see it until it's time for delivery.  At which point you'll have to pony up the cash or they won't deliver it.  And frankly, I'm -pretty sure- that a whole computer monitor will get dinged for duty by customs.

[divito]

I've only ordered like six things off Massdrop because shipping is fairly horrendous, but I've never had to pay duty; granted, most things I've ordered were small and under $200.

[GoodBytes]

47 minutes ago, Zeketo said:

Do you pay tax if you are a canadian buyer on massdrop.

I went through everything on paypal and it didn't seem to add tax to the cost only $50 usd shipping fees

PS: I live in Ontario and the tax is crazy

Tax is crazy? Really?! You should come to Quebec. 15% sales tax! And income tax.. ouch.. well at least it is easy to file them. Take an envelope, put all the money you earned in the year inside, keep 20$, and ship it.

 

I actually don't know for Massdrop. If it is shipped from the US, and is more than 19.99$, expect duty fees. And those are high, as not only you have the the sales taxes, but you also have other fees. If it shipped, via UPS, or FedEx.. oh boy, you have like 30$+ "administration fee", because they have their own staff to handle duties process.

[Zeketo]

1 minute ago, GoodBytes said:

Tax is crazy? Really?! You should come to Quebec. 15% sales tax! And income tax.. ouch.. well at least it is easy to file them. Take an envelope, put all the money you earned in the year inside, keep 20$, and ship it.

 

wat i thought you guys were the lowest 5%

[GoodBytes]

3 minutes ago, Zeketo said:

wat i thought you guys were the lowest 5%

Yea.. you just got it on reverse... It is  5% of all the money you make per year is what you get.

 

But seriously though. It is 15% sales tax, and income tax is 40-45% depending on how much you make, assuming you make less than 100k, and more than 10k. Very roughly. Plus so many other taxes on everything... you don't want a home, basically.

[Zeketo]

1 minute ago, GoodBytes said:

Yea.. you just got it on reverse... It is  5% of all the money you make per year is what you get.

thats a feelsbadman right there

[AshleyAshes]

Just now, GoodBytes said:

Yea.. you just got it on reverse... It is  5% of all the money you make per year is what you get.

The OP doesn't seem to understand that you're joking.

 

But anyway;

https://www.revenuquebec.ca/en/citizens/your-situation/new-residents/the-quebec-taxation-system/income-tax-rates/

[Canada EH]

48 minutes ago, mortino said:

It's only 13% lol, better than the 15% it used to be a few years ago.

5% GST here with 0% PST

[GoodBytes]

2 minutes ago, Zeketo said:

thats a feelsbadman right there

Anyway, I am exaggerating, but Quebec is the province we are the most taxed, and we are in the ranks of the regions with the highest tax in the world. We are far from the top, but we are there. But check my edit on my past post for Massdrop.

[Canada EH]

15% is huge for under $42K - Quebec is a weird province, so many diff laws.

 

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/individuals/frequently-asked-questions-individuals/canadian-income-tax-rates-individuals-current-previous-years.html

 

https://www.revenuquebec.ca/en/citizens/your-situation/new-residents/the-quebec-taxation-system/income-tax-rates/

[GoodBytes]

4 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

5% here

Yea.. enjoy that 5%... you pass from a province that was counting every penny spent, to over spending, and wasting money left and right since oil was being extracted on a large scale. And now that the oil extraction reduces, reducing the economy of Alberta you can't return back to the old ways. And there is no coming back. Ontario and Quebec says hi! on that

[GDRRiley]

21 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said:

1) Seriously?  You think 13% sales tax is 'crazy'?

yeah. I have some of the highest in CA at almost 11%. that is a big bump over most places having 6-8%

[dizmo]

Maybe, maybe not.

Depends who they use as the shipper, what the value is, and if the CBSA decides to look at your package or not. If they ship via UPS or FedEx, you'll also get dinged for a handling and brokerage fee. You should always bank on paying tax on an item, and potentially duty. With a monitor it's tricky. If they classify it as a TV, then you'll have to pay duty. If they don't, then you won't have to pay duty.

 

You can use this site as a rough estimate: https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/dte-acl/est-cal-eng.html

 

If you feel you've been unjustly charged duty, there's a form you can fill out to get that money back. You have to hunt down the HS code yourself though. It's available in PDF form from the CBSA website.

 

20 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said:

1) Seriously?  You think 13% sales tax is 'crazy'?

2) While an American shipper has no responsibilty or even means to charge Canadian sales tax, your order may still be charged Duty as it passes through customs.

No responsibility or right Which is why I was so annoyed the Louqe Kickstarter had VAT included in the price. Still so salty. 

Haha, I was so glad when BC got rid of HST. I paid a lot more with it than without.

19 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said:

If there will be duty charged, you likely won't see it until it's time for delivery.  At which point you'll have to pony up the cash or they won't deliver it.  And frankly, I'm -pretty sure- that a whole computer monitor will get dinged for duty by customs.

Eh not always. Depends on the day.

8 minutes ago, Zeketo said:

wat i thought you guys were the lowest 5%

You're thinking of Alberta Dat oil money d'oh

Just now, GoodBytes said:

Yea.. enjoy that 5%... you pass from a province that was counting every penny spent, to over spending, and wasting money left and right, since oil was being extracted at large scale. And now that things reduces you can't return back to the old way. And there is no coming back. Ontario and Quebec says hi! on that

Alberta is financially fucked.

[Canada EH]

1 minute ago, GoodBytes said:

Yea.. enjoy that 5%... you pass from a province that was counting every penny spent, to over spending, and wasting money left and right, since oil was being extracted at large scale. And now that things reduces you can't return back to the old way. And there is no coming back. Ontario and Quebec says hi! on that

Gotcha

 

 

 

 

Province or Territory	GDP (million CAD$, 2015)	Population (2015)	GDP per capita (CAD$, 2015)	Average Total Income (CAD$, 2010)
Canada	1,986,193	35,848,610	55,405	41,129
British Columbia	249,981	4,692,953	53,267	40,196
Alberta	326,433	4,179,660	78,100	53,408
Saskatchewan	79,415	1,132,263	70,138	40,933
Manitoba	65,862	1,295,981	50,820	36,795
Ontario	763,276	13,797,038	55,322	42,643
Quebec	380,972	8,259,452	46,126	36,491
New Brunswick	33,052	754,309	43,818	34,164
Prince Edward Island	6,186	146,736	42,157	33,632
Nova Scotia	40,225	943,373	42,640	36,108
Newfoundland and Labrador	30,100	528,676	56,935	35,345

[Jimkirk363]

Sales tax or VAT (Value added tax) as its called in the UK is 20%!!

[mortino]

20 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said:

1) Seriously?  You think 13% sales tax is 'crazy'?

2) While an American shipper has no responsibilty or even means to charge Canadian sales tax, your order may still be charged Duty as it passes through customs.

The 13% is just the sales tax, you have to pay import fees and duty on top of that.

2 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Anyway, I am exaggerating, but Quebec is the province we are the most taxed, and we are in the ranks of the regions with the highest tax in the world. We are far from the top, but we are there. But check my edit on my past post for Massdrop.

Everything in Quebec is soooooo cheap though, love it when I get sent there for work, live like a king for pennies on the dollar, especially MTL.

[GoodBytes]

Just now, jimkirk363 said:

Sales tax or VAT (Value added tax) as its called in the UK is 20%!!

Yes, but you have more governmental services than us, and you have other taxes that are lower than us.

[AshleyAshes]

25 minutes ago, Zeketo said:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/viewsonic-25-240hz-xg2530-gaming-monitor   https://www.massdrop.com/buy/viewsonic-27-144hz-xg2701-gaming-monitor

So, uhh... Let's break these items down a bit more.

The first monitor, XG2530, is $349 USD and you said there would be $50 USD in shipping.  So $399 USD which converts directly to $505 CAD and that's a STRAIGHT conversion.  Your payment processor will opt to PROFIT on the exchange rate and charge you a bit more so it'll probably be closer to $515-$520 CAD. You can find Amazon listings that are in that price range: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listing/B071DTCPP3/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1519695109&sr=8-1&keywords=XG2530&condition=new

 

Or even $479 here from PC Canada: https://www.pc-canada.com/item/XG2530.html?utm_source=shopbot&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopbot

 

The second monitor, the XG2701, $284.99+$50 USD wold be $424.71 CAD after exchange, again, that's the most OPTIMAL conversion and you'll not actually get such a good rate.  Probably more like $435-$440 I'd guess.  Meanwhile, that thing is $425 on Amazon with free shipping: https://www.amazon.ca/ViewSonic-XG2701-FreeSync-Monitor-DisplayPort/dp/B01A0ZRQTM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519695510&sr=8-1&keywords=XG2701&dpID=51uC6YEfMFL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

 

The OP should maybe be less concerned with taxes and duty and more concerned that the cost of shipping basically kills the deal on it's own.

[Zeketo]

the second one is good if it can sneak out of the customs which it probably wont. 420 after tax is actually a great deal, but won't happen. It's that time of the year that you wish black friday comes earlier or later. 240hz 1ms monitor was $399 /144hz  $329 on black friday and how did I miss those