The sad reality of Brazil. Brazilian import taxes...

[marksmanguy]

Check out how nuts this is...

[Technomancer__]

wtf thats alot...

btw there are closer amazons than usa

[Dissitesuxba11s]

Dang, 95% tax! Are there other websites that are local?

[NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle]

Fuck me, I thought my country had bad taxes. That is just insane.

[dalekphalm]

Are those prices in USD or in Brazilian Real?

[marksmanguy]

That is USD...  regardless though it's just double.  The shady thing is that they calculate the tax WITH SHIPPING INCLUDED.

[dalekphalm]

Just now, marksmanguy said:

That is USD...  regardless though it's just double.  The shady thing is that they calculate the tax WITH SHIPPING INCLUDED.

What do you mean? That's literally standard practice in pretty much any country in which you pay taxes when buying something.

[PETRGangKing]

3 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

What do you mean? That's literally standard practice in pretty much any country in which you pay taxes when buying something.

Normally , Tax is calculated off of the subtotal, the raw cost of the items before tax or shipping.

 

Subtotal + Tax + Shipping= Total   Tax=0.09(subtotal)   

 

I used a 9 percent tax as an example

[marksmanguy]

1 minute ago, dalekphalm said:

What do you mean? That's literally standard practice in pretty much any country in which you pay taxes when buying something.

Paying double (or more) of the price?

[marksmanguy]

2 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

What do you mean? That's literally standard practice in pretty much any country in which you pay taxes when buying something.

For example, I bought something online for 50 bucks and the shipping was like 40 dollars. I had to pay 90 dollars in tax so the total was 180, because they double the price you paid, INCLUDING the tax.

[mariushm]

Well .. just a thought.

 

Could someone buy a power supply for you, open it up and send you the components in 2-3 separate packages?  I mean open the power supply case, disconnect the fan and send it in one package with a very small declared value like 1$ , then send you the circuit board separately as "non functional circuit board for spare parts" marked as something like 10$ , then send you the  empty case in another package ?   And also if it's modular power supply , send the cables separately as "accesories,10$ replacement cables for power supply" or something like that.

 

Do you think the customs officers are smart enough to charge you the equivalent of a new power supply ?

 

You'd only have to screw back the circuit board in the case and attach the fan.. the downside is you lose the warranty.

[marksmanguy]

1 minute ago, mariushm said:

Well .. just a thought.

 

Could someone buy a power supply for you, open it up and send you the components in 2-3 separate packages?  I mean open the power supply case, disconnect the fan and send it in one package with a very small declared value like 1$ , then send you the circuit board separately as "non functional circuit board for spare parts" marked as something like 10$ , then send you the  empty case in another package ? 

Do you think the customs officers are smart enough to charge you the equivalent of a new power supply ?

 

You'd only have to screw back the circuit board in the case and attach the fan.. the downside is you lose the warranty.

I guess that could work in some cases, and in desparation. But sometimes the stuff in the import center can stay in there for weeks, months, I've even heard years, before getting released. And each package would be an additional risk. But nice idea though haha.

[DutchTexan]

9 minutes ago, marksmanguy said:

That is USD...  regardless though it's just double.  The shady thing is that they calculate the tax WITH SHIPPING INCLUDED.

Wow that is just ridiculous. Have you looked into other eCommerce websites? For example, if Amazon and Newegg are the same price for me, then I almost always go for newegg. Even though I have amazon prime, Newegg aways works out cheaper for computer parts. They rarely charge me shipping and everything I buy off newegg is tax free.

 

You have probably already looked around on www.Amazon.com.br ? 

[marksmanguy]

Just now, DutchTexan said:

Wow that is just ridiculous. Have you looked into other eCommerce websites? For example, if Amazon and Newegg are the same price for me, then I almost always go for newegg. Even though I have amazon prime, Newegg aways works out cheaper for computer parts. They rarely charge me shipping and everything I buy off newegg is tax free.

 

You have probably already looked around on www.Amazon.com.br ? 

I wish man, there is just no way around it. I am definitely more fortunate than most. I am mostly posting this to grieve for most Brazilians out here. It's just really sad.

[dalekphalm]

10 minutes ago, PETRGangKing said:

Normally , Tax is calculated off of the subtotal, the raw cost of the items before tax or shipping.

 

Subtotal + Tax + Shipping= Total   Tax=0.09(subtotal)   

 

I used a 9 percent tax as an example

Perhaps that's the case in Brazil?

 

That's not normal here in North America.

 

"sales tax" is for goods and services. Shipping is a service.

 

Therefore you pay tax on the subtotal, which is all goods and services before taxes:

 

Item: $100

Shipping: $10

Subtotal: $110

Taxes: 15% (not my actual tax rate, just an example)

Taxes ($): $16.50

 

Total: $126.50

 

Taxing shipping isn't shady.

 

When you buy a computer in-store, do you pay tax? When you get a haircut, do you also pay tax?

9 minutes ago, marksmanguy said:

Paying double (or more) of the price?

No. I'm talking about how he thinks it's shady to calculate tax on shipping - that's not true at all.

 

I DO think that 100% import fees is bullshit - but that's a different discussion.

[marksmanguy]

16 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

Perhaps that's the case in Brazil?

 

That's not normal here in North America.

 

"sales tax" is for goods and services. Shipping is a service.

 

Therefore you pay tax on the subtotal, which is all goods and services before taxes:

 

Item: $100

Shipping: $10

Subtotal: $110

Taxes: 15% (not my actual tax rate, just an example)

Taxes ($): $16.50

 

Total: $126.50

 

Taxing shipping isn't shady.

 

When you buy a computer in-store, do you pay tax? When you get a haircut, do you also pay tax?

No. I'm talking about how he thinks it's shady to calculate tax on shipping - that's not true at all.

 

I DO think that 100% import fees is bullshit - but that's a different discussion.

That's not necessarily true. And it varies from state to state, and many other factors. Like a 3rd of the states in the US don't pay tax on shipping.

 

When you have one of the poorest countries in the world like here in Brazil, and the government not only makes you pay DOUBLE the price, but ALSO double on the shipping cost as tax, sorry my friend but that is shady.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Oh my god why

[DildorTheDecent]

Rampage VI Apex is like $200 cheaper. Should have saved a few quid with that. 

[Silentprototipe]

Sweet mother of god 

[dizmo]

Yeah, import taxes can be brutal. Is it cheaper if you go on vacation and return? For Canadians you're allowed a certain amount free. Might be worth taking a trip.

 

1 hour ago, dalekphalm said:

What do you mean? That's literally standard practice in pretty much any country in which you pay taxes when buying something.

Depends how you import it. Usually you shouldn't be charged duty/import fees on shipping.

For example, if I'm coming across the border with items I bought on eBay, I don't include the shipping paid per item in the total value.

1 hour ago, mariushm said:

Well .. just a thought.

-snip-

That doesn't sound like a good idea at all. Screw something up and all your money is gone

I don't think warranty is a huge issue, considering it wouldn't be worth sending something in for warranty anyway.

[PETRGangKing]

1 hour ago, dalekphalm said:

Perhaps that's the case in Brazil?

 

That's not normal here in North America.

 

"sales tax" is for goods and services. Shipping is a service.

 

Therefore you pay tax on the subtotal, which is all goods and services before taxes:

 

Item: $100

Shipping: $10

Subtotal: $110

Taxes: 15% (not my actual tax rate, just an example)

Taxes ($): $16.50

 

Total: $126.50

 

Taxing shipping isn't shady.

 

When you buy a computer in-store, do you pay tax? When you get a haircut, do you also pay tax?

No. I'm talking about how he thinks it's shady to calculate tax on shipping - that's not true at all.

 

I DO think that 100% import fees is bullshit - but that's a different discussion.

Nowhere I live has ever charged tax on shipping. I have lived in quite a few different states in the US, where I currently reside. I rarely even pay taxes on online orders, but when I do, shipping is not taxed. Everywhere I have lived, sales tax is strictly for items sold, not for shipping.

 

And no,I am not charged tax on a haircut. A decent portion of the states do not extend sales tax to services. They are just now discussing passing a law to extend sales tax to services in my state, due to budge shortcomings.

[chilicheeseburger]

Holy crap, that's a rip off... And this is still cheaper than buying locally?

[marksmanguy]

14 minutes ago, chilicheeseburger said:

Holy crap, that's a rip off... And this is still cheaper than buying locally?

Another problem here is also the access. You couldn't find that motherboard or PSU even with a million bucks.

 

If you manage to find what your looking for though, it may be the same price or maybe a bit cheaper. It depends on a lot of factors too. As a general rule of thumb, everything is just twice the price.

[Evanair]

2 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

"sales tax" is for goods and services. Shipping is a service.

Never payed tax on shipping anywhere in the U.S. Shipping is considered labor, not a service at least at the federal level. Handling is considered a service and is taxable.  As long as they are listed separate (or the invoice doesn't say handling) then it's not taxable.

 

Now, certain states (not federal level) charge tax on shipping.  Here's a chart, I don't know how accurate or up-to-date this is.

[Dabombinable]

This might be a good bit of background reading on the whole tax situation in Brazil. The country does have its problems:
http://thebrazilbusiness.com/reflection/why-are-the-taxes-in-brazil-so-high